Is Matt lazy live with his vocals?

[Sippe]

Originally Posted by Electricmuser96

Matt being sloppy with his vocals wouldn't suit Muse

But he IS sloppy with his vocals...

[Sippe]

Originally Posted by Beibi

Well, I don't share your opinion

If that's about not caring if Matt hits some odd notes, then I guess you're not a big fan of Muse live?

[Jobby]

Originally Posted by Sippe

But he IS sloppy with his vocals...

Not to the extent that Kurt was with his guitar though, which was the point I was making. Kurt would purposefully play badly simply because that was his attitude and the sound that Nirvana was known for - Matt doesn't purposefully sing badly, if he sounds bad it's usually because he's finding it hard, having an off day or not using proper technique for whatever reason.

Again, I'm only referring to Kurt so much because someone brought it up - I realise the two don't really have much relevance.

[jdeboer01]

Originally Posted by Sippe

But he IS sloppy with his vocals...

I agree. The early stuff was pretty sloppy, but in a cool "I don't give a fuck" way. I think now he's trying NOT to be sloppy, but can't really pull off taking it seriously, if that makes any sense. He needs to stop giving a shit and just let go.

[Sippe]

Originally Posted by jdeboer01

I think now he's trying NOT to be sloppy

That sounds better than it is though, since he's trying to be sloppy by not doing anything hard.

[Novus Dies]

He'll fuck up his voice if he sang them every night.

Plus his voice was terrible after recording The Resistance.

[Sippe]

Originally Posted by Novus Dies

He'll fuck up his voice if he sang them every night.

Sang what every night?

Originally Posted by Novus Dies

Plus his voice was terrible after recording The Resistance.

lulz

[jdeboer01]

Originally Posted by Sippe

That sounds better than it is though, since he's trying to be sloppy by not doing anything hard.

Do you mean trying NOT to be sloppy by not doing anything hard?

So, he must care about sounding good, but his method of "accomplishing" that is to not do anything hard (wimping out on high chest notes and replacing them with falsetto) -- which of course makes him NOT sound good, and makes it look like he's lazy more than he cares.

More Execution Commentary!!

[Sippe]

Originally Posted by jdeboer01

Do you mean trying NOT to be sloppy by not doing anything hard?

So, he must care about sounding good, but his method of "accomplishing" that is to not do anything hard (wimping out on high chest notes and replacing them with falsetto) -- which of course makes him NOT sound good, and makes it look like he's lazy more than he cares.

More Execution Commentary!!

Oops, indeed I do.

And exactly! That's what I've been saying ever since this thread was made

[Beibi]

Originally Posted by Sippe

If that's about not caring if Matt hits some odd notes, then I guess you're not a big fan of Muse live?

Yes, I'm starting to think I'm not a good fan because I don't give a shit about most of the things people complain about

[Sparky_]

Originally Posted by Beibi

Yes, I'm starting to think I'm not a good fan because I don't give a shit about most of the things people complain about

He didn't say anything about you not being a good fan, just not a big fan of Muse live.

[Sippe]

Originally Posted by Beibi

Yes, I'm starting to think I'm not a good fan because I don't give a shit about most of the things people complain about

Uhm...I don't think you understood what I said.

From your posts it seems as you don't agree that it doesn't matter if Matt hits some off notes here and there, as long as he tries.

And then my question is, if you don't agree that it's okay for Matt to hit off notes, then you can't be a very big fan of Muse live. Because Matt is quite off on a lot of occasions, especially during the early years.

[Beibi]

Originally Posted by Sippe

Uhm...I don't think you understood what I said.

From your posts it seems as you don't agree that it doesn't matter if Matt hits some off notes here and there, as long as he tries.

And then my question is, if you don't agree that it's okay for Matt to hit off notes, then you can't be a very big fan of Muse live. Because Matt is quite off on a lot of occasions, especially during the early years.

I don't care if Matt hits some odd notes here and there that's part of the live show, but If he knows he is going to fail trying to hit certain notes and decides to go for the easy way, making sure it sounds good, I'm not going to mind either.

People complain because of that, because he plays it safe by doing something he knows it's not going to sound bad, it's ok, but imagine the opposite, that he doesn't give a shit and goes for those hard notes every night, failing most of the time. Are you sure people wouldn't be complaining about it? Do you really think that people would be like "give him some slack, at least he is trying"?... I've been on this board quite some time to know that wouldn't happen

Not sure if I made my point clearer now

[Dee3Dee]

Originally Posted by Beibi

I don't care if Matt hits some odd notes here and there that's part of the live show, but If he knows he is going to fail trying to hit certain notes and decides to go for the easy way, making sure it sounds good, I'm not going to mind either.

People complains because of that, because he plays it safe by doing something he knows it's not going to sound bad, it's ok, but imagine the opposite, that he doesn't give a shit and goes for those hard notes every night, failing most of the time. Are you sure people wouldn't be complaining about it? Do you really think that people would be like "give him some slack, at least he is trying"?... I've been on this board quite some time to know that wouldn't happen

Not sure if I made my point clearer now

You mean like the final note in Resistance?

....oh wait.

[Sippe]

Originally Posted by Beibi

I don't care if Matt hits some odd notes here and there that's part of the live show, but If he knows he is going to fail trying to hit certain notes and decides to go for the easy way, making sure it sounds good, I'm not going to mind either.

People complains because of that, because he plays it safe by doing something he knows it's not going to sound bad, it's ok, but imagine the opposite, that he doesn't give a shit and goes for those hard notes every night, failing most of the time. Are you sure people wouldn't be complaining about it? Do you really think that people would be like "give him some slack, at least he is trying"?... I've been on this board quite some time to know that wouldn't happen

Not sure if I made my point clearer now

But that's exactly what he used to do. I don't think I've heard a single performance of Hyper Music where he didn't fail or cop out majorly on some point. he did this every night, and still they were called one of the best live bands around.