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Old 29-10-2010, 10:26 PM   #16
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The majority of us love Matt whatever. He's the driving force behind Muse's success and the creative lead and no one can deny that.
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Old 29-10-2010, 10:40 PM   #17
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Yea tbh if Dom and Chris had a serious problem with the setlists i think they would say something, there has been evidence to suggest that chris and dom are bored but i dont think that its serious enough for them to do anything. I think GL will be gone for good(invincible was played almost every gig last tour and its gone, and GL has been played way less), and FG i would like to think will be gone because they have rotated it sometimes, but we wont really know for sure untill next tour.
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Old 29-10-2010, 10:46 PM   #18
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Tbh I don't think they have showed signs of being bored. They seem very happy, particularly with the idea of becoming the biggest band in the world, more than Matt. He's never said that. He's always said it's about the music.
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Old 29-10-2010, 10:51 PM   #19
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Bottom line is, he.. or they.. seem to have a problem playing anything other than the same 25 songs in rotation. Next album tour will be minus 5-8 songs from current rotation and adding the worst songs from next album.

He.. or they.. seem to be afraid of mixing it up, unfortunately.
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Old 29-10-2010, 11:07 PM   #20
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PS Matt has said he feels more in touch with the audience when he's front stage than playing the piano. That has nothing to do with whether he has his eye's open. It's about feeling the vibe and reacting to that. Accept his interpretation!
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Old 29-10-2010, 11:42 PM   #21
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The majority of us love Matt whatever. He's the driving force behind Muse's success and the creative lead and no one can deny that.
I do have to admit I do love the guy but curse him for not playing the regular 18 song setlists!!! the BHAR tour and earlier legs had longer setlists.

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Tbh I don't think they have showed signs of being bored. They seem very happy, particularly with the idea of becoming the biggest band in the world, more than Matt. He's never said that. He's always said it's about the music.
Agreed, they all seem quite happy and enjoy playing this tour, I'm sure there is no problem whatsoever among them as a band.

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Bottom line is, he.. or they.. seem to have a problem playing anything other than the same 25 songs in rotation. Next album tour will be minus 5-8 songs from current rotation and adding the worst songs from next album.

He.. or they.. seem to be afraid of mixing it up, unfortunately.
They are in some ways, I remember reading that the guys have forgotten how to play some songs live as well, they really practiced this setlist that they really didn't practice other tunes. The current set up limits them on what they can do.

I'm sure their next tours will be great, if only they could integrate a solid 18-song setlist with 1 rarity at least both old and new fans will be happy. Although the towers were cool they should go.... and maybe their stage and new songs make it easier to transition to other material.

For example Nishe came back and SS remained well because they transition easily with other songs...even the recent Citizen Erased+Nishe was a nice transition and in the same guitar settings.

I believe Undisclosed will remain too... I doubt Matt wants to leave the Keytar, he'll for sure use it with newer material, it's very likeable, it was his favourite tune off The Resistance.

Anyways, that's my opinion... 18 song setlists+1 rarity among next tour's gigs. Do that and it'll be like the BHAR tour all over again (the best one imo).
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Old 30-10-2010, 12:13 AM   #22
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I think they will, inevitably, have to make the setlists longer. This is absolutely essential. I also think the sets will be less about hits and more carefully constructed, something has to give, and if the singles from album six are as popular as Uprising, Resistance, Undisclosed, then I could definitely see some more rotation happening.

plus, whatever the album is, we might love it? in which case if Guiding Light and Feeling Good disappear, I dont see how the setlists could be too bad.

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Old 30-10-2010, 12:18 AM   #23
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It'll have to be a blindingly good album next up to make me want to see them live again.
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Old 30-10-2010, 12:35 AM   #24
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I do have to admit I do love the guy but curse him for not playing the regular 18 song setlists!!! the BHAR tour and earlier legs had longer setlists.



Agreed, they all seem quite happy and enjoy playing this tour, I'm sure there is no problem whatsoever among them as a band.



They are in some ways, I remember reading that the guys have forgotten how to play some songs live as well, they really practiced this setlist that they really didn't practice other tunes. The current set up limits them on what they can do.

I'm sure their next tours will be great, if only they could integrate a solid 18-song setlist with 1 rarity at least both old and new fans will be happy. Although the towers were cool they should go.... and maybe their stage and new songs make it easier to transition to other material.

For example Nishe came back and SS remained well because they transition easily with other songs...even the recent Citizen Erased+Nishe was a nice transition and in the same guitar settings.

I believe Undisclosed will remain too... I doubt Matt wants to leave the Keytar, he'll for sure use it with newer material, it's very likeable, it was his favourite tune off The Resistance.

Anyways, that's my opinion... 18 song setlists+1 rarity among next tour's gigs. Do that and it'll be like the BHAR tour all over again (the best one imo).
The towers are infact not restrictive at all. Recent setlists have proven that tehy can actully get the towers to do anything, and if they had put there minds to it they really could have made each show unique by using different songs on the towersall the time etc etc.
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Old 30-10-2010, 06:05 AM   #25
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I think they just stopped playing old rare songs because they like better their new stuff. Their into it, I mean, they got better and appreciate more what they do recently ... I don't think they like more their old songs (that would be strange and depressing lol) ! They do what they want.

My dream setlist would be longer than it is now, and I wish Matt will still play the piano, because it's just so nice to hear. I wish they keep some very rockin' songs like Stockholm Syndrom and I don't mind if they stop playing Feeling Good. It's okay, as long as they still have a balance between calm and rockin' songs.

But seriously, I hope their new album won't be too classical.Honestly, most of the time their crazy songs like Hysteria or New Born are a success, right ?

I love Muse so much, it would be damn sad for the future tours to be deceiving ! But they won't be ... right ?
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Old 30-10-2010, 07:13 AM   #26
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I think that they stopped playing their old stuff because they don't identify with it anymore. It's pretty obvious they changed a lot the past years and I guess they'd rather play something that means something to them than go through the motions? Though I do wonder how anyone can play the same thing every single night and not start to be bored and just "go through the motions" that way, too. Perhaps that's why Chris and Dom look bored? They being either Matt or all three; I can't tell you nor do I particularly care tbh.

I do have quite a bit of hope for the new album, though. Yes, it's hard to take what Matt says seriously, but it does seem Chris will have a bigger role this time compared to TR, and I'm hoping that'll balance things out a bit.
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Old 30-10-2010, 07:35 AM   #27
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I am genuinely afraid of the next album and tour, This tour has been a sham all the way through.

Matt doesn't want to play the piano because he can't connect with the crowd? Well it's bloody unfortunate that some of the best songs he's written are for the piano then, isn't it? Oh wait, they never play those anyway.

Chris looks incredibly bored during songs like Guiding Light and Undisclosed Desires. If you watch Dom at Glastonbury, he pretty much just sits there with a blank stare during Guiding Light. He's so bored.

Matt isn't a pushover. If Dom and Chris object to any decision he makes I'm sure he wouldn't go down without a fight. Dom and Chris probably can't be bothered arguing with him, and just go along with the setlists of cheese.
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Old 30-10-2010, 09:56 AM   #28
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Matt isn't a pushover. If Dom and Chris object to any decision he makes I'm sure he wouldn't go down without a fight. Dom and Chris probably can't be bothered arguing with him, and just go along with the setlists of cheese.
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Old 30-10-2010, 02:29 PM   #29
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This makes me sad. :lol:. I guess confirming my irrational hopes of hearing old songs. But still..I will never be able to give up total hope. And I can't see me ever stopping going to their shows thats just blasphemous..they have been and will continue to be my favorite band. So even if their new record blows, I'll still pay for them to play it.


And I mean. I recall not being immediately in love with TR album, but it grew on me. And I appreciate it. I guess like a lot of things, it's muse at the end of the day, and although I have songs or albums I enjoy more, I sort of mentally see it all as one collective album.


That's my soapbox and I'm sticking to it.



But yeah. Not going to lie, I still hope for Dead Star..and Muscle Museum and like 5 others. hahaha.
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Old 30-10-2010, 03:19 PM   #30
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They can do like Green Day.
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