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Old 18-08-2009, 09:11 AM   #1
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The Elephant in the Room: The Resistance isn't that good

I'm really interested in hearing other Muse fans' input here.

I should start by saying I'm a big fan of Origin of Symmetry with Absolution at a close second, so Muse's epic songs and hard-rock jams are all very close to my heart. While of course it's too early to thoroughly judge the album, the previews iTunes now has to offer have given me grave concern that the band is headed in a direction completely opposite that of the OoS and Absolution days.

When "United States of Eurasia" was released, I was satisfied with the song's grandeur and thundering harmonic minor runs. "Uprising," however, raised a flag. The originality and authentic Muse-ness felt absent, replaced by a baseline that was a cross between Marilyn Manson's "Beautiful People" and Battles' "Atlas." The synth melody felt like a weaker version of Billy Idol's "White Wedding," and the minimal guitar felt thrown in, a mere appeal to the rock and roll spirit that attracted fans like me in the first place. To be quite frank, the song felt empty, and entirely absent the heart and soul that the band seems to put into every song they release.

"But that single is just a glimpse at the album," I told myself, "it's probably going to function like Starlight did in BHAR, as a device to draw in a wider consumer base." That was the rationalization I put into place, though I had a knawing at the back of my head at even a comparison to the album that I felt was a step in the wrong direction. Regardless, I held out hope, knowing (praying) that Muse would deliver. Then the iTunes samples came online.

I don't believe I'm the first to say it, but I want to start a discourse on it among Muse fans: The Resistance isn't that good. From the 30 second samples, I drew a small list of grievances, after of course I had wiped the tears from my face:
Where did the distortion from Chris's bass go?
Why all the keyboard synth? What was wrong with piano?
Where did the classical influences disappear to?
Where is the fuzz factory, the rocking Manson sound? Where is the GUITAR for that matter?
What is with this disco vibe?
What is with this electronica vibe?
Why has the political dissent encouragement in the lyrics been turned up to 11?
And finally, WHERE IS THE MUSE I HAVE GROWN TO LOVE?

Not here, I say. Not here. I will buy the Exogenesis Symphony, and that is probably all. Please let me know what you think.
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Old 18-08-2009, 09:19 AM   #2
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Yadda yadda yadda.

Next.
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Old 18-08-2009, 09:25 AM   #3
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Where did the distortion from Chris's bass go?

- Wtf?!?! Chris' bass is sounding heavier, beefier and more distorted than ever!


Why all the keyboard synth? What was wrong with piano?

- This album has both. Use your ears. And don't we already have quite an extensive vault of piano songs?


Where did the classical influences disappear to?

- Ah yes, I forgot, symphony actually means 'electro-bum-squat-shuffle' not the 13-minute classical-come-rock odyssey. What a shithead I am.

Where is the fuzz factory, the rocking Manson sound? Where is the GUITAR for that matter?

- MK Ultra, Unnatural Selection, parts of Exogenesis, Guiding Light, OMFG GITARZ!


What is with this disco vibe?

- It's funky.

What is with this electronica vibe?

- It's progression.

Why has the political dissent encouragement in the lyrics been turned up to 11?

- The lyrics are shite as usual, whatchoo 'spect?

And finally, WHERE IS THE MUSE I HAVE GROWN TO LOVE?

- Yes, grown to love and refuse to give-up. If you like Origin Of Symmetry and Absolution, bugger off and listen to them whilst we enjoy their new material/direction.
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Old 18-08-2009, 10:04 AM   #4
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I complementary agree, altho you worded it better than i ever could :P
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Old 18-08-2009, 11:30 AM   #5
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Bonus pants, I'd have to agree with you fully.

Thus far The Resistance looks grim. Even songs I held out hope for like unnatural selection and MK ultra aren't sounding fantastic. They've gone in a completely new poppy direction, why weren't more of the songs classically influenced rather than just exogenesis? The reason I ask is because so far exogenesis part 1 and 2 completely obliterate the rest of the sample songs... Exogenesis has all the spark of the muse I used to know and love, frankly would've preferred a 50minute classical/rock symphony and a couple disco B-sides. I hope when the full songs come out that they change my mind, but it's looking grim.
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Old 18-08-2009, 11:33 AM   #6
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well i think its good they try something new. USOE and uprising are very different. That really intrigues me for the new album. You cant expect of a band always being the same.
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Old 18-08-2009, 11:37 AM   #7
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I say wait until we can hear the album in full before jumping to conclusions. 30 seconds of a song is nothing, and by Muse's standards, certainly won't be representative of the whole song. Remember trying to judge how USoE was going to sound as we unlocked each 30 seconds?

Take a step back and appreciate the awesomeness. Muse have the talent and imagination to be able to create such a wide variety of music, and we all have our favourites. Progression is a good thing, and they're still the same band we know and love, we can't expect them to remain in 2001.

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If you don't like it, go play OoS or Abso if you want to listen to Muse, no one is forcing you to listen to it. Using the same formula for an album gets boring very quickly, and thankfully it seems the majority appreciate what they are doing. Just because it's not to your taste doesn't make it a bad album.
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Bonus pants, I'd have to agree with you fully.

Thus far The Resistance looks grim. Even songs I held out hope for like unnatural selection and MK ultra aren't sounding fantastic. They've gone in a completely new poppy direction, why weren't more of the songs classically influenced rather than just exogenesis? The reason I ask is because so far exogenesis part 1 and 2 completely obliterate the rest of the sample songs... Exogenesis has all the spark of the muse I used to know and love, frankly would've preferred a 50minute classical/rock symphony and a couple disco B-sides. I hope when the full songs come out that they change my mind, but it's looking grim.
I nominate this as the most ridiculously stupid post of 2009 so far.

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Old 18-08-2009, 11:46 AM   #10
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If you don't like it, go play OoS or Abso if you want to listen to Muse, no one is forcing you to listen to it. Using the same formula for an album gets boring very quickly, and thankfully it seems the majority appreciate what they are doing. Just because it's not to your taste doesn't make it a bad album.

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They're 30 second clips ffs, they cannot be judged as a whole until the album is officially released.

I for one am really loving the change in direction Muse are taking because it's taking something I love in Muse and adding something new and unusual into the mix

My enthusiasm for this album is higher than ever!
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Old 18-08-2009, 11:46 AM   #11
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A band who does the same stuff with every record just gets boring. That's why AC/DC and Oasis bore me.

I think it's good Muse are developing differing sounds (jury out for Undiclosed Desires and Guiding Light, mind) and Uprising plus USoE are pretty good songs.
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Old 18-08-2009, 11:48 AM   #12
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Im all for change, but I guess what I'm trying to say is so far exogenesis dumps on the others (and you can it expect it to be MORE progressive than the others too), why make a 3part rock symphony then take the remaining 8 songs in the completely opposite direction?
Classical influenced rock is emotional, moving & motivational music, and muse do it well... The album had so much potential with the classical rock direction, but so far has seemed to work completely against that...

P.s. People who keep saying stop complaining and go listen to Oos or abs, stop being daft. People should offer their opinion on a bands music and musical direction whether good, bad or neutral. Forums are to discuss things.

Listen to the samples and pretend its the first time youve ever heard muse. I wouldn't be blown away... I think this album will struggle to be better than blackholes

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Old 18-08-2009, 11:51 AM   #13
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Why has the political dissent encouragement in the lyrics been turned up to 11?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the theme of the album is "resistance", right?
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P.s. People who keep saying stop complaining and go listen to Oos or abs, stop being daft. People should offer their opinion on a bands music and musical direction whether good, bad or neutral. Forums are to discuss things.
Yes but it's being suggested that they should stick to that style, and you must have a very limited music taste if you want a band to produce the same stuff over and over again.
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Old 18-08-2009, 12:00 PM   #15
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Yes but it's being suggested that they should stick to that style, and you must have a very limited music taste if you want a band to produce the same stuff over and over again.
A lot of people do want more of the same: oos/abs... Which, I agree, is stupid.
What I was saying is a classical approach fits muse and makes for much better music than unoriginal glam rock. In my opinion.
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