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Old 01-04-2011, 07:54 AM   #76
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No more setlist beef, please...
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Old 01-04-2011, 04:38 PM   #77
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I'm pretty convinced they just play whatever they feel like playing. If thats the same tunes, then maybe they see it as more of a job, with a routine, than something inherently enjoyable...
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Old 01-04-2011, 08:11 PM   #78
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If people with Reading tickets are moaning about hearing all of Origin of Symmetry then I wouldn't mind if they just organised another gig purely to play Origin of Symmetry and all of the b-sides of that era maybe it could be on the real 10 year anniversary?
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Old 13-04-2011, 08:53 PM   #79
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How about just a Hullabaloo anniversary instead? Best gig they've ever had, in my opinion.

With Stockholm thrown in there somewhere.
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Old 16-04-2011, 01:57 PM   #80
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Now, let me explain this to you so we can avoid turning it into setlist beef.

Muse aren't variating their setlists at all, mixing this up usually meant changing the place of some songs, always keeping the standard 15-17 songs every gig.

Now, there have been moments on the tour that had some great setlist in terms of mixing things up, especially in Asia and Australia.

What people are complaining about isn't "Why didn't we get this song?", it's "Why didn't ANY of the previous gigs get anything like this(meaning rare songs, not any songs in particular songs)?"

If they changed after the Brisbane gig, fair enough. But right after that gig everything went back to the normal, standard set.

If you are happy with this, good for you. can't we just leave it at that?

Oh and to answer your question about when I think would be a good moment for them to start. How about from the beginning? And since we can't go back in time, how about right now and then keep going like that?
Nah it didn't. Went to Sydney 2 and got Bliss + Butterflies, and the peeps who went to Sydney 1 got CE and Sunburn. Ditto for Melbourne. Slightly disappointed that they didn't use the alternate setlist structure though.
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Old 16-04-2011, 02:17 PM   #81
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Nah it didn't. Went to Sydney 2 and got Bliss + Butterflies, and the peeps who went to Sydney 1 got CE and Sunburn. Ditto for Melbourne. Slightly disappointed that they didn't use the alternate setlist structure though.
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Old 04-07-2011, 12:31 PM   #82
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wow you're a bunch of pompous whiny poms.

All bands have generic setlists, why songs remain on their?
a. it pleases the crowd.
b. it becomes soo natural they dont even have to enjoy the song/ worry about mistakes
c. shaky setlists mean no quick transitions, change of stage plans, lighting etc.

its more than a band that has to deal with a setlist...
jeesus ur a bunch of pooftas, grow up you 12 year olds. Be grateful your spoilt country is seeing the damn album..
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Old 04-07-2011, 12:32 PM   #83
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I agree with the previous post.
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Old 04-07-2011, 01:40 PM   #85
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All bands have generic setlists, why songs remain on their?
No they don't.
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a. it pleases the crowd.
I've seen Guiding Light, Undisclosed Desires, Resistance, Starlight, Soldier's Poem, Invincible, Feeling Good and Unintended live. Every single one of them, perhaps with the exception of Starlight and Feeling Good, has broken the ebb and flow of the respective gig I heard them at.

Also, not all the crowd loves them. Undisclosed Desires in London 2009 was absolutely dead and flat. Don't get me wrong, I love that song, but it just doesn't work live.
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Have you been to a Muse gig recently? The gaps between their songs are MASSIVE, often more than a minute. I saw the Manic Street Preachers recently at a fairly large gig and even with guitar changes, speeches, etc, they rarely had any gaps between songs.

It doesn't help that Muse are crap at constructing setlists these days. They need to start grouping songs by tuning to save time and stop changing guitars so much! The changes are completely unneccessary.
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Don't forget the mandatory 300 riffs that have to follow every fucking song.
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Have you been to a Muse gig recently? The gaps between their songs are MASSIVE
I've been, and the gaps aren't MASSIVE. Change a guitar doesn't take that long
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I've been, and the gaps aren't MASSIVE. Change a guitar doesn't take that long
It does when you're Matt Bellamy.
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I've been, and the gaps aren't MASSIVE. Change a guitar doesn't take that long
I agree with this. Although the constant gaps inbetween songs are annoying, they're not really that long. It would be good if Muse did what most other bands did and just went from one song into another with little to no time inbetween, and if they stuck to their own riffs in terms of filling in between songs.
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I've been, and the gaps aren't MASSIVE. Change a guitar doesn't take that long
They are compared with most bands.

Live performances by bands of Muse's ilk rely on momentum and once upon a time, Muse understood this .
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