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Old 09-12-2014, 08:38 AM   #4876
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Oscillation switch? Interesting. I found it nicer when the guitar volume was turned down but it's sounding FF territory for sure. Looks like more use to electronic artists than guitarists, that's for sure.
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Old 12-01-2015, 06:03 PM   #4877
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How do you guys deal with the Fuzz Factory "live" ?

When I'm at a rehearsal or at home, my FF sounds "normal", but at every show I did, It was very difficult to make it sound good (my settings where the Stab is not at 5:00 rarely work). And it's worse in summer.

I heard that this type of fuzz pedal sounds different depending on the heat. Did you notice the same thing ?

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Old 12-01-2015, 10:11 PM   #4878
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If you have your pedals in a different order it will change how the fuzz factory sounds, if, for example, you have it plugged in after a Boss pedal it will sound thinner and more harsh. Try and have the fuzz at the start or near the start of your signal chain

Boss pedals have a buffer in them, more details are here....

http://screaminfx.com/tech/why-and-w...ffer-pedal.htm

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Old 13-01-2015, 10:20 AM   #4879
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Old 13-01-2015, 11:44 AM   #4880
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And it's worse in summer.

I heard that this type of fuzz pedal sounds differently depending on the heat. Did you think the same ?
That's interesting. I can't say I've ever noticed any major differences apart from changing the settings. If it could affect the voltage of the battery though, that could make a difference I suppose. No idea about that though. I tend to keep my settings useable as a fuzz distortion on the floor pedal, and then I have the probe and internal for messing about all over the place.
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Old 13-01-2015, 11:54 AM   #4881
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it's probably referring to the NOS germanium transistors

Also, I think the standard FF sounds better than the FF7... I haven't tried Bs' secret settings though
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Old 13-01-2015, 06:52 PM   #4882
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How do you guys deal with the Fuzz Factory "live" ?

When I'm at a rehearsal or at home, my FF sounds "normal", but at every show I did, It was very difficult to make it sound good (my settings where the Stab is not at 5:00 rarely work). And it's worse in summer.

I heard that this type of fuzz pedal sounds differently depending on the heat. Did you think the same ?
I keep posting this shit until someone bites, now i have links too:

http://www.diyrecordingequipment.com...ant=1025330384
http://www.muzique.com/lab/pickups.htm

edit: the combination of the 'questionable' biasing network and the germanium transistors makes the fuzz face and it's boosted copy the fuzz factory really sensitive to temperature changes, it's bias voltages are moving up and down depending on the internal temperature making slight changes in clipping waveform and gain
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Old 13-01-2015, 07:51 PM   #4883
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And that's why I am against germanium transistors. The varying and sensitive nature of them makes me hurl for a difference in tone that far too often gets mistaken as the identity of a circuit. Maybe I just prefer stability in my life.

Actually, I always wondered if there was a better way to fix the FF and other pedals without resorting to a transformer or inductor. Maybe I'm just in need of more coffee. Where are my books when I need them?
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Old 13-01-2015, 08:34 PM   #4884
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And that's why I am against germanium transistors. The varying and sensitive nature of them makes me hurl for a difference in tone that far too often gets mistaken as the identity of a circuit. Maybe I just prefer stability in my life.

Actually, I always wondered if there was a better way to fix the FF and other pedals without resorting to a transformer or inductor. Maybe I'm just in need of more coffee. Where are my books when I need them?
Different biasing schemes could make it much more independent of temperature (basically you would need smallish resistors on the emitters (that would lower the gain though but then you could raise the feedback resistor which would make the input impedance higher as an added bonus) and a voltage divider on the bases giving a proper voltage bias)

The other problem is the low input impedance (it is something like 8k instead of the usual 100-1000k in pedals) which is the nature of a common emitter setup. It loads down the weak guitar pickup so much it basically filters a lot of highs out that is why putting a buffered pedal or before it makes it more shrill and trebly because the buffer with it's low output impedance can pump your full guitar signal through the fuzz face.

Also that 470/8k2 resistor voltage divider robs you assloads of volume, the FF could be a fucking loud pedal if you would start messing with the ratio of those resistors there.

edit: that thread i linked in the unworthy mods (in my last post i think) thread have tons of great info of FF enhancements
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it's probably referring to the NOS germanium transistors

Also, I think the standard FF sounds better than the FF7... I haven't tried Bs' secret settings though
It might just all depend on the guitar to be honest. The FF7 plays like a dream with my custom, but it's a bit too harsh with the MB-1. It's the opposite way round for my Dickinson pedal.
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Old 14-03-2015, 01:22 PM   #4886
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Has anyone got and internal pics of the fuzz factory fitted into a guitar? I've wired one up that's right to my knowledge but It keeps dropping power when I turn it on or plug it in. Would like see what someone else has done.

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