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Old 05-11-2012, 04:25 PM   #1
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Hypothetical combo-album - What would you choose?

For me, and this may be an opinion a few others share, the last two albums have been minor disappointments. I understand the need to keep things fresh and there are some great tracks on both The Resistance and The 2nd Law but most agree there are also some stinkers.

I would be interested to see what song choices other fans would make in the purely hypothetical situation where the best tracks from the 2nd Law and The Resistance were combined and released as one album after BH+R and how successful or well-received it may have been.

After much deliberation, here's my choices:

Track 1: Supremacy

Fantastic opener, one of the many highlights of the new album. Sounds stunning live.

Track 2. Uprising

Another good track which launched the band in the US further than any single before, yet it seemed unusual as an opening to an album, hence it is now track 2.

Track 3. Resistance

Never really liked the tune personally, but I appreciate the themes and the source of inspiration. Plus it smashes tracks 4 and 5 from the 2nd Law out of the water and the "we must ruuuuun" section is awesome!

Track 4. Undisclosed Desires

The first time I heard this was on BBC's coverage of the band's "A Seaside Rendezvous" concert in Teignmouth and it blew me away. Very Depeche Mode and whilst it has divided fans ever since, I happen to think it's one of the more genius forays into electronic music the group has made.

Track 5. Panic Station

After a three song run from the Resistance I thought it was time to mix things up a tad. This track should be the albums next single and one of the only songs on the 2nd Law I instantly loved. The funk-pop vibe is spot on and proof the band can do almost any genre and make it sound awesome.

Track 6. Follow Me

Whilst I think it sounds a bit too much like Nero ft. Matt Bellamy I do think it works and sounds appropriately serious after the funk of track 5. The track also sounds good in an arena (as long as Matt keeps his guitar round his neck!).

Track 7. Unnatural Selection

OK the riff sounds too much like New Born and not too many people like the breakdown but the relief that washed over me when I heard the entirety of the Resistence in 2009 and a strictly rock track had remained, without the cheese, without the choirs and without the operatic-ness, was intense and for that reason alone, I felt it deserved a place.

Track 8. MK Ultra

A fantastic highlight of a largely disappointing album. This threw me back to the old days of Muse, the paranoia and made-for-concert riffs. Often doesn't get the praise it deserves except from people on this forum.

Track 9. Animals

It's fitting that both my favourite tracks from the respective two albums are back to back at the end here before the final "set piece". Animals is a masterpiece. There, I said it. I love Animals. I can't stop playing Animals, that includes live versions. It takes the best elements of old classics like Screenager and Falling Away With You then adds a kick-ass outro, all within a 5/4 time signature, and with creepy undertones about the tools who have ruined our economy. It's hilarious and genius, I love it.

Tracks 10-12. Exogenesis Symphony

Ultimately it was always going to boil down to this or the final two "2nd law" tracks to close the album and personally, I think there's no competition. Whilst I can appreciate that Unsustainable's guitar-step backbone is inspired and sounds just as good in the flesh, I think that Exogenesis is wonderful, even for those who don't really come by classical music that often, such as myself. It's telling that the 15 minute track was written pre-2009, because it doesn't sound needlessly included or "too much", like most of the string and piano sections on the 2nd Law. A perfect closer for any Muse album.



I understand this may seem pointless but I thought it would be fun and I am very much interested to see what others will have as their choices. It also looks like I enjoyed The Resistance more than the 2nd Law, but that's not the case. My reasons for the omitted tracks are below:

Madness (Really can't stand the song)
Prelude
Survival (Some great guitar sections, but the lyrics are AWFUL, plus the choir sounds hugely unnecessary)
United States of Eurasia (not bad but too much Freddie for my liking, plus it usurped Butterflies and Hurricanes on the live playlist for a while - inexcusable!)
Explorers (Not sure what Matt was thinking with this one, it's like Soldier's poem got a shot of camp straight to the xylophone)
Guiding Light (Poor poor song. It's not even the cheese or Brian May-lite riffs which disappoint me, it's just SO DAMN BORING)
Big Freeze (Actually don't dislike this as much as others do. I certainly don't think it's the worst song on the new album. The chorus is good)
I Belong to You (Not terrible, just don't think it would work in the "combo-album". Plus it was allowed to be in a Twilight movie. Next.)
Save Me
Liquid State (Both of Chris' tracks are admirable efforts, and I'm glad someone else had writing and vocal duties for a change, but still don't particularly listen to either song. Sorry Chris!)
The 2nd Law: Unsustainable
The 2nd Law: Isolated System (Like I mentioned, it was this or Exogenesis. Yeah, exactly)
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:30 PM   #2
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How in the world did you manage to put Resistance over Survival?
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:34 PM   #3
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How in the world did you manage to put Resistance over Survival?
Yes. Or Madness, or USoE, or Explorers, or...nah it's just a silly idea sorry.
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:42 PM   #4
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Don't get me wrong, Survival could have been good. But by the time it's done and after that ridiculous crescendo ending, I always have this bizarre look on my face. I'm also embarrassed when someone hears me listening to it, which I've never been able to say about a Muse song before. It's so camp and the lyrics are some of the poorest ever written, not just by Matt. (I'll light the fuse and I'll never lose).....really?

It was supposed to be the OFFICIAL song of the Olympics. I maybe heard it twice throughout the whole thing. It's as though someone from a comedy sketch show was trying to impersonate how a lot of the industry see Muse, like a parody.

Resistance doesn't even come close to Survival in terms of ridiculousness and it's not actually a bad song.
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Don't get me wrong, Survival could have been good. But by the time it's done and after that ridiculous crescendo ending, I always have this bizarre look on my face. I'm also embarrassed when someone hears me listening to it, which I've never been able to say about a Muse song before. It's so camp and the lyrics are some of the poorest ever written, not just by Matt. (I'll light the fuse and I'll never lose).....really?

It was supposed to be the OFFICIAL song of the Olympics. I maybe heard it twice throughout the whole thing. It's as though someone from a comedy sketch show was trying to impersonate how a lot of the industry see Muse, like a parody.

Resistance doesn't even come close to Survival in terms of ridiculousness and it's not actually a bad song.
The whole point of Survival is the over the top, camp nonsense. Opinions I guess but you're not gonna be too well recieved for that decision
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:50 PM   #6
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1. Unsustainable
2. Liquid State
3. Animals
4. USoE (without Collateral Damage damn you)
5. Survival
6. Undisclosed Desires
7. Panic Station
8. Mk Ultra
9-11. Exogenesis
12. Isolated System

Trying to make one with regards to flow. I'm not really good at this
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Old 05-11-2012, 04:58 PM   #7
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1. Unsustainable
2. Supremacy
3. Uprising
4. Panic Station
5. Undisclosed Desires
6. Follow Me
7. Animals
8. MK Ultra
9. Survival
10. Overture
11. Cross-Pollination
12. Redemption
13. Isolated System
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Old 05-11-2012, 05:11 PM   #8
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Bored, might as well:

1 - Unsustainable (More developed though)
2 - Supremacy
3 - MK Ultra
4 - Follow Me
5 - Undisclosed Desires
6 - Panic Station
7 - Animals
8 - Uprising (Riff Outro)
9 - United States Of Eurasia (No Collateral Damage)
10 - Survival
11 - Exogenesis Part 1: Overture
12 - Exogenesis Part 2: Cross-Pollination
13 - Exogenesis Part 3: Redemption
(Possible hidden track being Isolated System)
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Since I was bored, I also made Showbiz-OoS and Abso-BH&R combinations

Sunburn
New Born
Bliss
Muscle Museum
Space Dementia
Citizen Erased
Micro Cuts
Showbiz
Darkshines
Uno
Hate This & I'll Love You
Megalomania
(58:47 minutes)


Intro+Apocalypse Please
Stockholm Syndrome
Assassin
Supermassive Black Hole
Interlude+Hysteria
Map of the Problematique
Endlessly
Take a Bow
Ruled By Secrecy
Butterflies & Hurricanes
City of Delusion
Hoodoo
Knights of Cydonia
(57:31 minutes)

The TR-T2L combo is 54:55, I managed to stay under 1 hour for all three playlists
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Old 05-11-2012, 07:16 PM   #10
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1/ Prelude
2/ Survival
3/ Unnatural Selection
4/ United States of Eurasia
5-7/ Exogenesis
8/ Uprising
9/ Panic Station (rearranged for more coherence between the songs of the album)
10/ Animals
11/ Supremacy
12/ Unsustainable
13/ Isolated System

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Old 05-11-2012, 07:24 PM   #11
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Version 1: Abso + T2L

Intro
Apocalypse Please
Sing for Absolution
Supremacy
TIRO
Panic Station
Stockholm Syndrome
Interlude
Hysteria
B&H
Follow Me
Liquid State
RBS

/51 minutes

And TR + T2L:

Supremacy
USOE
Prelude
Survival
Panic Station
Animals
Unatural Selection
MK Ultra
Liquid State
Exogenesis 1 - 3

/Don't how it flows
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Supremacy
Panic Station
Prelude +Survival
Unsustainable
Isolated System
Follow Me
Animals
Unnatural Selection
MK Ultra
Overture
Cross-Pollination
Redemption

It flows and everything.
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