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Old 19-11-2017, 03:50 PM   #8866
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Listening to Drones again in full for the first time in ages.

I always forget just how much of it I really do like. In fact, the run through from Dead Inside to Revolt (including Revolt) is absolutely fine.

Sure, there are a few things I'd change.

Psycho should have been shorter, it's just a touch too repetitive.

I wish they'd taken Mercy down a more mysterious, swirly, Bliss-esque route (more of the big synths throughout the whole song) and extended that outro a little.

Reapers and The Handler are both fine, although I'd probably have done something a little more abstract with The Handler solo.

Toning down the Queen factor in Defector would have been good, Revolt is just fine as it is (come at me).

After that though, eeesh. Aftermath is a total disaster really, it it was completely reworked in the dark, Pink Floyd vibe then it would have worked really well with The Globalist (kind of how Hoodoo and Knights work back-to-back).

And then The Globalist. Ergh. It's just so incoherent. It simply doesn't work at all for me. Even the bits that are passable (the slide guitary opening verses and the riffage) are pretty dull and uninspired. The problem with it is it's a song that the band clearly had a visual vision in mind for, something they can bring to life live. But on the album, this vision is just completely absent, or at least to most people, in the manner it was intended.

The Globalist and Drones should have been combined and released as a standalone song or EP.

And with the reworking about, especially of Aftermath, the album would have worked as a whole.

In short: not bad at all, but frustrating.
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Old 19-11-2017, 04:03 PM   #8867
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Old 19-11-2017, 04:19 PM   #8868
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Old 20-11-2017, 06:49 AM   #8869
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Pretty much my exact thoughts tbh. Except I’d add that the main reason for The Gloablist feeling so incoherent is down to Matt trying too hard to make CE 2, forcing these transitions instead of it happening organically.

That’s a problem with quite a few songs as well imo, trying to ape their old sounds/songs and coming off more hollow as a result. The Handler’s a good song but it sounds like it could’ve been made by a tribute act, if that makes sense. Feels too much like Muse sitting in the studio saying “This is what people used to like about us...right?”, or a middle-aged man finding some old photos of himself from when he was a bit cooler and trying to copy that old style even though the clothes don’t fit anymore and he’s balding now.

Edit: I think that’s probs why Revolt’s my favourite track, as much as some other peeps hate it. I like the majority of the album but that’s one of the only ones that feels at least somewhat fresh.
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Old 20-11-2017, 07:02 AM   #8870
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That's why Dead Inside is my favorite it's also a lot more enjoyable than Revolt.
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Old 20-11-2017, 07:20 AM   #8871
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Dead Inside is definitely my highlight of the album - it feels like the culmination of a load of electronic experiments that actually come together as one.
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Old 20-11-2017, 07:58 AM   #8872
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I don't really hear "electronic experiments" in that track.... Like, at all. It's just some 80s keyboard sounds put together. The song itself is decent though.
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Old 20-11-2017, 09:30 AM   #8873
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Dead Inside is probably the best song on the album. I just wish the production gave it some room to breath.
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Old 20-11-2017, 01:32 PM   #8874
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I found The Globalist very awkward live.
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Old 21-11-2017, 01:14 PM   #8875
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Dead Inside, Reapers and The Handler are still great to me, and I have to admit that if I'm randomly listening to Muse and Revolt shows up I find myself enjoying it quite a bit. But honestly, I can't remember much of the other songs.
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Old 21-11-2017, 05:50 PM   #8876
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Does anyone else think The Globalist could have been better as more of an Animals-style track and the piano part worked into a better puano-style closer that seems to end most Muse albums?
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Old 21-11-2017, 09:23 PM   #8877
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Does anyone else think The Globalist could have been better as more of an Animals-style track and the piano part worked into a better puano-style closer that seems to end most Muse albums?
They could've also morphed the middle heavy riff into a metal-tinged banger in the style of Assassin.
Also, the album could've used another heavy song between Psycho and Mercy, or a gloomy slow-burner as a narrative bridge between Reapers and The Handler.
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Old 21-11-2017, 10:44 PM   #8878
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I found The Globalist very awkward live.
I found it to be a highlight of the gigs Iíve watched this tour. The riff is a bit cringeworthy with Dom pretending to sing, but the rest is brilliant.
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Old 21-11-2017, 10:52 PM   #8879
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I thought it was pretty brilliant live. Probably my favorite part of the gig, at least the Philly one for sure, and really the only reason I don't totally regret going.
Was the only time the visuals actually lived up to all the effort put into the setup. If they could have done more like that throughout the gig, I wouldn't have been so negative on the stage show.

I mean, if you didn't turn your head and look at the dildrone. That thing really was cringy as much as I enjoyed laughing at it.
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Old 22-11-2017, 09:00 AM   #8880
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The intro to The Globalist is my favourite part of the song on record but felt a bit weak when I saw it at the O2 last April. The heavy bit and piano part were great though, and visually, it was certainly the best part of the way they used that 360 stage.

I mean, yeah, the dildrone was pretty lolzy - think on my night it nearly crashed into Matt then landed in the crowd - but I'm still cool with having seen it live.
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