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Old 04-09-2016, 03:47 PM   #8731
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I'm confused, are you the same Clunge who claimed to love Remedy Lane and look forward to Scarsick back when it was about to be released?

But yeah, Muse can really nail it, but then they just seem to want to release comedy songs as much as they want to release actual honest attempts? Like...why?

There's a reason why I rarely listen to the albums anymore and instead have made playlists where I just group together the songs from 2006-2015 that fit as a whole. A Synth-rock album, an orchestral rock album, and then just a cheesy album of leftovers. Strangely enough Muse's approach to be all over the place for four albums in a row can be mixed into three consistent albums.
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Old 04-09-2016, 03:56 PM   #8732
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Tastes change. IIRC, that was probably about 10 years ago.

But yeah, there is enough from the last four to make a great album.
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Old 04-09-2016, 04:02 PM   #8733
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Tastes change. IIRC, that was probably about 10 years ago.
Yeah of course, just the "never" and "at all" which confused me.

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Now there's a sad sentence.
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Old 01-03-2017, 12:03 PM   #8734
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Muse, a group whose music was formative and dear to me, have become an awful and ridiculous joke of a band. Drones is one of the worst records I've ever heard, and would have done much better as a well argued anthology of essays on modern violence, injustice, and criminal dehumanization via the Empire, broadly defined.

The whole mechanism of Muse's music is the mythic grandiosity they give to human emotion. Heartbreak becomes worlds exploding. An anxiety attack becomes an alien invasion. A guitar becomes a weapon of righteous and divine light. F*** yeah. I feel that. All of humanity feels that. Thats why Ovid, Homer, the Genesis narrative, the Epic of Gilgamesh. That stuff was pop back in the day. It makes sense that a rock band would key into these themes and mythicize them so viscerally. After all... Wikipedia did/does define Muse as "space rock", so the Cosmos have some bearing.

For me, Drones fails--at what could have been a subtle and masterful allegory between an increasingly objectivizing and controlling relationship and the ever more absurd reality of the citizen of the Empire--because of 1) the lack of ingenuity and invention or even a sense of life in the music (it is, maybe on purpose, Dead Inside) and 2) its deeply uncreative and hamfisted conceptual approach on the lyrical front.

If Muse want a revolution, they've done nothing to engender it. The upheaval and anarchism is polished into toothless, top-shop sloganeering by Mutt Lange and the band's own increasingly nausea-inducing tendencies toward butt rock. They've embraced their corporatism. They are a money machine and they know it.

Maybe im particularly upset because the ideas at the core of most of Muse' music are things I agree with: Caesar is a brutish gangster mascarading as a messiah. Hail Caesar.


I keep hoping that there's this genius behind it, some archly meta reading of this album, either distilled on purpose by Matthew Bellamy or somehow wrought through his fame-addled brain by the Hand of God... Perhaps Drones is an art piece about how the State can co-opt and defang revolutionary sentiments and pitch them back at the public, so the people feel all the righteousness of uprising and resistance, but still go back to their imperial, tax-paying, murder-funding lives. They wear N.W.A. T-shirts to their cushy, bourgeois desk jobs.
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Old 01-03-2017, 12:08 PM   #8735
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Had I slept at all and eaten breakfast, that last post would be better articulated, but I wanted to put the thoughts out into the wild and see what happens.
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Old 01-03-2017, 12:21 PM   #8736
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Perhaps Drones is an art piece
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Old 01-03-2017, 12:26 PM   #8737
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Exactly... I never said *good* art.
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Old 01-03-2017, 01:49 PM   #8738
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Had I slept at all and eaten breakfast, that last post would be better articulated, but I wanted to put the thoughts out into the wild and see what happens.
Personally this is how I feel when you let your thoughts into the wild.

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I think you just have to remember taking muse's 'values'/lyrics at more than face value will end in disappointment. But then again I've never been one for lyrics. Riffs for days. And drones has a fair few that are great.
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Old 01-03-2017, 05:05 PM   #8741
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Drones has good music and shitty lyrics
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Drones has shitty music and shitty lyrics.
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Pretty much. I really liked the album, although that might just be in comparison to the prior two it looked a lot better to me, but I was also infuriated with how asinine Psycho was (not to mention lazy musically) after what Matt had hyped it up to be. Maybe, ultimately, the rest of the album seemed amazing in comparison.

It IS pretty depressing to think that Matt might believe Drones is successful in conveying any of the politics or ideas that he says it was supposed to be about.
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Old 03-03-2017, 02:34 AM   #8745
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It's Muse's version of a 'cock rock' album. But than wasn't 2nd Law that as well?
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