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Old 08-08-2011, 02:41 AM   #1201
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It's weird for a band with around 140 songs to only like 30 of them though, isn't it?

And that they don't know how much people want to hear the rarities is bullshit. They constantly get asked to play them whenever fans meet the band. Oh and, setlist polls...
You know, maybe this is just me, but never thought they completely ignored the setlist polls. I saw the results and Citizen Erased and Bliss were at the top almost always. What looks like what happened is that they learned CE and Bliss, tried to play them whenever they could, and just ignored the rest.
But I didn't see songs like Showbiz or Fury in the top frequently.
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Old 08-08-2011, 10:24 AM   #1202
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You know, maybe this is just me, but never thought they completely ignored the setlist polls. I saw the results and Citizen Erased and Bliss were at the top almost always. What looks like what happened is that they learned CE and Bliss, tried to play them whenever they could, and just ignored the rest.
But I didn't see songs like Showbiz or Fury in the top frequently.
First off, having songs like Uprising, Starlight and KoC in the polls in the first place showed that they didn't really give a damn.

second, always taking the easy way out(if KoC was in the top5, ignore the rest) showed that they didn't really give a damn.

third, having CE and/or Bliss in the top5, songs that they already know, and then not playing them at some shows showed that they didn't really give a damn.

and finally, saying specifically that "We have to play Bliss and CE tonight, otherwise we will piss off a lot of fans", and then not playing them...WHAT IS THAT?
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:30 AM   #1203
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First off, having songs like Uprising, Starlight and KoC in the polls in the first place showed that they didn't really give a damn.

second, always taking the easy way out(if KoC was in the top5, ignore the rest) showed that they didn't really give a damn.

third, having CE and/or Bliss in the top5, songs that they already know, and then not playing them at some shows showed that they didn't really give a damn.

and finally, saying specifically that "We have to play Bliss and CE tonight, otherwise we will piss off a lot of fans", and then not playing them...WHAT IS THAT?

All very true. At the time I was more of the mind that we should be thankful for what we're getting but looking back we have the absolute right to complain.

Usually Muse just play what they want (though why they like playing the same big singles in the same order every night, I dunno) and thats up to them but when they gave us the choice, they completely ignored it, except 2 songs becoming interchangable semi-regulars. It's really disrespectful and I think it's shown how much Muse now care about the opinions of their golden oldie fans.

I still love them, of course, but I (and I think most of us) know,they don't really care.
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Old 08-08-2011, 02:52 PM   #1204
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Not sure why this thread is full of complaining, though. I feel like if people aren't happy with the setlists, they should stop checking the setlists or even going to the gigs.
I think the complaints are more do to with Muse not trying challenging themselves when they could if they tried, only resorting to the staples at every gig.
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A thing that I don't get is this argument that people constantly make that we should be grateful for what we get. That we should be happy that they even do concerts at all. Like Muse are somehow doing it as a favor to us.
In their eyes no one should question/complain what Muse do.
But your post quoting Dell is the worst post from you.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:51 PM   #1205
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In their eyes no one should question/complain what Muse do.
But your post quoting Dell is the worst post from you.
I don't think there's anything wrong with people questioning or complaining what they do. I do, however, think that if ALL someone does is bitch and complain and they have so many issues with every single the thing band does, maybe they should go find another band to follow because it doesn't look like Muse is changing anytime soon.
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Old 08-08-2011, 04:52 PM   #1206
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I don't think there's anything wrong with people questioning or complaining what they do. I do, however, think that if ALL someone does is bitch and complain and they have so many issues with every single the thing band does, maybe they should go find another band to follow because it doesn't look like Muse is changing anytime soon.
I don't think there's a single person on this board who fits that description tbh.
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Old 08-08-2011, 11:34 PM   #1207
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Back to the Muscle Museum thing... now I do think the whole pedal thing is a bunch of crap. When I played MM on my guitar, it sounded pretty normal even without a rare effects pedal.. I do think that one's a lie. Plus, why not switch up the sound? They're doing it for UD, why's it matter if MM sounds a bit different...?
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Old 09-08-2011, 03:12 PM   #1208
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I don't think there's anything wrong with people questioning or complaining what they do. I do, however, think that if ALL someone does is bitch and complain and they have so many issues with every single the thing band does, maybe they should go find another band to follow because it doesn't look like Muse is changing anytime soon.

Ah, of course. My previous post in this thread wasn't directed at you. Your point taken.
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Back to the Muscle Museum thing... now I do think the whole pedal thing is a bunch of crap. When I played MM on my guitar, it sounded pretty normal even without a rare effects pedal.. I do think that one's a lie. Plus, why not switch up the sound? They're doing it for UD, why's it matter if MM sounds a bit different...?
THIS.

Plus, are we honestly supposed to believe that if Matt really wanted to, he couldn't find a way to find one/have one specially made? Not like he doesn't have the money or means

Oh well... Showbiz songs are now a thing of the past anyway
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Old 09-08-2011, 03:34 PM   #1210
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All very true. At the time I was more of the mind that we should be thankful for what we're getting but looking back we have the absolute right to complain.

Usually Muse just play what they want (though why they like playing the same big singles in the same order every night, I dunno) and thats up to them but when they gave us the choice, they completely ignored it, except 2 songs becoming interchangable semi-regulars. It's really disrespectful and I think it's shown how much Muse now care about the opinions of their golden oldie fans.

I still love them, of course, but I (and I think most of us) know,they don't really care.
One small correction in that I wouldn't even call Bliss and Citizen Erased 'semi-regulars' to be honest. Not on The Resistance Tour anyway.
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Old 09-08-2011, 06:16 PM   #1211
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THIS.

Plus, are we honestly supposed to believe that if Matt really wanted to, he couldn't find a way to find one/have one specially made? Not like he doesn't have the money or means

Oh well... Showbiz songs are now a thing of the past anyway
Right. I mean how many times has he had the Glitterati replaced...?

But I mean I could understand them not liking most of the Showbiz songs because their personalities and music have evolved a lot. And they were a looooooot younger when they wrote those. It's probably one of those moments where you look back on something you did when you were younger and think "Why did I do that?"

But that doesn't mean they can't play them..
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Right. I mean how many times has he had the Glitterati replaced...?

But I mean I could understand them not liking most of the Showbiz songs because their personalities and music have evolved a lot. And they were a looooooot younger when they wrote those. It's probably one of those moments where you look back on something you did when you were younger and think "Why did I do that?"

But that doesn't mean they can't play them..
I think it does. I don't blame Muse for not wanting to play Showbiz songs.

But goddamnit Matt, just SAY so. No need for ridiculous excuses about lost pedals.
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I don't think it's a case of them not liking Showbiz anymore, because they obviously still have songs from the album they are willing to play (Example: Cave, Japan, January 2010) It's more that they don't want to play some of the songs because they feel they've outgrown them or that it just doesn't fit the tone of the band anymore. Although it wouldn't surprise me if Muse enjoy playing older songs at R/L this year and end up sticking a few more into the setlists for the Album 6 tour.
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Thank you for stating the obvious.
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