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Origin of Symmetry 5 11.90%
Absolution 3 7.14%
Black Holes & Revelations 6 14.29%
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The 2nd Law 14 33.33%
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Old 10-02-2016, 04:20 AM   #1
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Which Muse album do you think has the best production? I think T2L sounds the best, which is a shame considering it's probably their worst album. What do you guys think?
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Drones for sure, best dynamics although it falls victim to loudness in some spots. TR could have been much better but the levels were fucked up in post it seems.
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Are we talking the whole production process or just mixing and mastering?
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Are we talking the whole production process or just mixing and mastering?
I'm assuming OP meant the latter.
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T2L is the best-produced, although that production wouldn't be the best fit for Abso or Origin.
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Old 10-02-2016, 08:46 AM   #6
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I'd love to hear BH&R given the T2L treatment.

Only issue with T2L is the heavy section just aren't quite heavy enough for my taste. The Survival riffs get close, but I'd just like that extra 10% b33f.
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T2L is the best-produced, although that production wouldn't be the best fit for Abso or Origin.
How is it best produced lol, the levels on songs like Liquid State are atrocious
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If I was to choose another album's production for Abso and BH&R, I think it'd be Drones.

T2L is the crispest and clearest but sounds way too clean as a result imo, takes almost all the beef out of it. Drones suffers from loudness at times but I think it's the best of both worlds.
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People choosing Drones? That shit needs to go through the whole mixing and mastering process again, sounds incredibly uncomfortable in some places (especially Mercy). Personally I think BHaR has a pretty good production.
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People choosing Drones? That shit needs to go through the whole mixing and mastering process again, sounds incredibly uncomfortable in some places (especially Mercy). Personally I think BHaR has a pretty good production.
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In general I think the Drones production is pretty bad. I'm ok with losing a little beef if it means it sounds like T2L
My biggest Drones complaint though is the crackling guitars, especially on Defector and Mercy. That's the result of either overcompression or recording so loud the equipment is peaking so you get a really unnatural distortion sound. I don't know enough about production to know which one it is but god damn it sounds bad
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In general I think the Drones production is pretty bad. I'm ok with losing a little beef if it means it sounds like T2L
My biggest Drones complaint though is the crackling guitars, especially on Defector and Mercy. That's the result of either overcompression or recording so loud the equipment is peaking so you get a really unnatural distortion sound. I don't know enough about production to know which one it is but god damn it sounds bad
I think it's safe to say with the amount of experience of the people that worked on Drones that they didn't inadvertently clip the recordings

Am confused what crackling you're talking about?
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People choosing Drones? That shit needs to go through the whole mixing and mastering process again, sounds incredibly uncomfortable in some places (especially Mercy). Personally I think BHaR has a pretty good production.
Really? Both aren't great. Survival is how all Muse songs should sound in my opinion, whether that be a good thing or not I'm not too sure
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Really? Both aren't great. Survival is how all Muse songs should sound in my opinion, whether that be a good thing or not I'm not too sure
Really? I reckon it might've sounded decent at the mix stage but the final mastered track I've heard just doesn't really have the dynamic range, so when all the guitars kick in doesn't feel quite as oomph as it should
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I think it's safe to say with the amount of experience of the people that worked on Drones that they didn't inadvertently clip the recordings

Am confused what crackling you're talking about?
Well you'd think that an experienced production team wouldn't let that happen but Rush's 2002 album had both of those problems. Plenty of albums from the mid 2000's have this problem. You can really hear it on Defector, there's some crunchiness there that isn't the guitar distortion. You can hear it in the Psycho verses sometimes and it's pretty present in the Mercy chorus. It's a production style that pushes loudness above everything else and it causes problems like that.

I'd like to add that Muse thanked Rick Rubin for teaching them how not to produce. They were going to work with him on TR but ended up self producing. Rick Rubin did most of the Chili Pepper's albums and Death Magnetic by Metallica. They all have that guitar clipping problem.

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