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Old 13-08-2008, 05:49 PM   #1
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Hitting behind the nut

Hey guys.

I searched and couldnt find a topic on this so I thought of asking here. What exactly does Matt do when he hits behind the nut the get that high pitched sound?

I'm refering to what Matt does in various songs such as New Born and Time is Running Out.

EDIT: Or what Tom Morello does in the whole of Township Rebellion and War Within a Breath. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njf578br-PU

I've tried many different ways but I just cant get it. Is it exclusive to specific guitars or are there effects involved? Is there a special method for it?

Thanks. .
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Old 13-08-2008, 06:00 PM   #2
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Hey guys.

I searched and couldnt find a topic on this so I thought of asking here. What exactly does Matt do when he hits behind the nut the get that high pitched sound?

I'm refering to what Matt does in various songs such as New Born and Time is Running Out.

EDIT: Or what Tom Morello does in the whole of Township Rebellion and War Within a Breath. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njf578br-PU

I've tried many different ways but I just cant get it. Is it exclusive to specific guitars or are there effects involved? Is there a special method for it?

Thanks. .
You pretty much answered your own question, he just hits the strings behind the nut. Really simple, but also really effective when used at the right time
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Old 13-08-2008, 06:03 PM   #3
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Maybe without the volume cranked you get a real feeble squeal out of this technique

I haven't tested tried this in a while, though bending behind the nut, thats fun
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Old 13-08-2008, 06:05 PM   #4
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What is this? fucking muselive?

Also it only really works with tele style headstocks. Not the Gibson style 3 a side headstock.
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Old 13-08-2008, 06:05 PM   #5
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Hey guys.

I searched and couldnt find a topic on this so I thought of asking here. What exactly does Matt do when he hits behind the nut the get that high pitched sound?

I'm refering to what Matt does in various songs such as New Born and Time is Running Out.

EDIT: Or what Tom Morello does in the whole of Township Rebellion and War Within a Breath. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njf578br-PU

I've tried many different ways but I just cant get it. Is it exclusive to specific guitars or are there effects involved? Is there a special method for it?

Thanks. .
if you have a guitar like a les paul where it has 3 tuners either side of the headstock, it is close to impossible to do it. on guitars like strats and teles (like the mattocasters) it's a piece of cake. just crank up teh gain and strum behind the nut.
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Old 13-08-2008, 06:07 PM   #6
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What is this? fucking muselive?

Also it only really works with tele style headstocks. Not the Gibson style 3 a side headstock.
Yeh, they swapped places, get with the times man!
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Old 13-08-2008, 06:09 PM   #7
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Yeh, they swapped places, get with the times man!
Chrissssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssst! We've hit a new level of n00b here now.
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Old 13-08-2008, 06:15 PM   #8
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Also, it's more difficult to really make it ring if you have the tele-style string aligning pegs.

Better to have the strings going straight to the tuner posts so they can resonate more.
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Also, it's more difficult to really make it ring if you have the tele-style string aligning pegs.

Better to have the strings going straight to the tuner posts so they can resonate more.
No way. I have had several teles with the string trees still in place. Sounds the same tbf.
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No way. I have had several teles with the string trees still in place. Sounds the same tbf.
Yup.
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there's shit loads of bollocks surrounding hitting behind the nut, in reality, just hit behind it regardless of guitar, type of nut or string trees, a bit of volume or distortion helps to make it really stand out.

i've never had issues doing it on a gibson either from my memory...
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there's shit loads of bollocks surrounding hitting behind the nut, in reality, just hit behind it regardless of guitar, type of nut or string trees, a bit of volume or distortion helps to make it really stand out.

i've never had issues doing it on a gibson either from my memory...
Apart from not getting the same pitch or sound out of it as you would from a 6 in line other the a 3 a side.
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Apart from not getting the same pitch or sound out of it as you would from a 6 in line other the a 3 a side.
what's that got to do with anything? it's still possible to do the technique and get the same result from it
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what's that got to do with anything? it's still possible to do the technique and get the same result from it
Same result yes. Same sound no.
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Same result yes. Same sound no.
That's deep man.
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