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Old 05-10-2012, 01:29 PM   #46
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For the Animato,
To be honest, I don't like these kind of distortions for bass, too much noise (metallic, frets). Animato is very expensive, there must be a lot better elsewhere for less. I prefer fuzz.
Sooooooo nice.

For fuzzes on bass, this is where some EQ, blend, gate and comp come in.
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Old 27-04-2014, 06:49 AM   #47
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Is it original Animato or just a copy?
http://www.humangear.net/productdeta...r-animato.html
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Old 27-04-2014, 03:44 PM   #48
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As far as we know (we don't know much) it's original.
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Old 07-10-2014, 12:08 PM   #49
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Okay, I've decided rather than clutter up the Recent Purchases thread, I'll post here.

So an Animato fell into my hands today. After band practice tonight I can say it's definitely a keeper. We tried it on guitar first. No. Just. No. On bass however with a LS-2 it was freaking sweet, with the dist and tone knobs at about 1 o'clock. It seems to have a really nice high end and keeps some body with the tone knob down and with the hot pickups, has quite a lot of distortion.

I'm just going to stick it all in an imgur folder and describe it as I go along. I'm going to take some voltage values tonight when I get a chance.

http://imgur.com/a/zLnM9
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Old 07-10-2014, 06:50 PM   #50
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Okay, I've decided rather than clutter up the Recent Purchases thread, I'll post here.

So an Animato fell into my hands today. After band practice tonight I can say it's definitely a keeper. We tried it on guitar first. No. Just. No. On bass however with a LS-2 it was freaking sweet, with the dist and tone knobs at about 1 o'clock. It seems to have a really nice high end and keeps some body with the tone knob down and with the hot pickups, has quite a lot of distortion.

I'm just going to stick it all in an imgur folder and describe it as I go along. I'm going to take some voltage values tonight when I get a chance.

http://imgur.com/a/zLnM9
Do you plan on doing a schematic?
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Just was playing that guitar, and i think a pickup change is in order. you know something's wrong when a guitar makes an OR120 sound as thin as green screen kid looks...
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:04 PM   #51
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That's the aim!

Got the voltages for the boards written down last night. Still amazed by the loads of "missing" connections on the boards.

Also lifted some of the goop off this morning. It doesn't seem to adhere very well to the board which may be a good thing.

Also, have our first part casualty. a 100uF cap on board B1. Turns out it was gooped to the roof of the box and I had to rip it off. Fortunately, I have lots of parts on hand to replace them. The degooping begins and it's actually really easy to scrape off with a plastic scraper. This might not take as long as I thought.
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:16 PM   #52
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Okay, I've decided rather than clutter up the Recent Purchases thread, I'll post here.

So an Animato fell into my hands today. After band practice tonight I can say it's definitely a keeper. We tried it on guitar first. No. Just. No. On bass however with a LS-2 it was freaking sweet, with the dist and tone knobs at about 1 o'clock. It seems to have a really nice high end and keeps some body with the tone knob down and with the hot pickups, has quite a lot of distortion.

I'm just going to stick it all in an imgur folder and describe it as I go along. I'm going to take some voltage values tonight when I get a chance.

http://imgur.com/a/zLnM9
Nice!

Glad I'm not the only one who thought it was useless with guitar. Did yours have that blocking distortion (I think that's what it's called) when the gain was turned up? Basically a white noise/gated type sound.

I have mine set a bit different with bass. tone and drive set at around 11 o clock, and volume wherever works best with the LS-2 settings. This is with the JPJ bass which seems to have fairly hot pickups (active EMGs), but I think it sounds a bit better with the gretsch (that one has passive humbuckers, but I think they are fairly low output in comparison)
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Old 07-10-2014, 10:37 PM   #53
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We didn't even touch the gain on guitar. It just sounded shit right off the dials at noon.

Also. #soon. It's coming off with my fingernail. This might not be as difficult as I first thought.



EDIT: Board B1 has been figured out. Sadly, A1 is the more difficult of the two.
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Old 08-10-2014, 03:33 AM   #54
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:lol: I was expecting years of slow degooping work
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Old 08-10-2014, 06:03 AM   #55
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Cool! So they didn't scraped off the model number and stuff from the transistors?
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Old 08-10-2014, 07:25 AM   #56
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Nothing so far has been scraped off as far as I can tell. All the transistors on that board are C2240's (so a 2N5088 should suffice).

Only issue I realise I will have when it comes to making this is that if the pots are C taper or odd values, I won't be able to get them here. I have a lot of stock lying around for everything else.

Very poor sketch up I did of the B1 board schematics. I forgot they were NPN transistors when drawing it (d'oh!)
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Old 08-10-2014, 10:16 AM   #57
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Would be interesting to see if you can improve on the design for bass specifically! (or add a clean blend on the pedal itself)
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Does that circuit resemble anything so far?

I hope you're going to write down the types of components as well. I remember Neil giving me a lecture about why electrolytic capacitors can jack white better than film capacitors.

And also the 39k resistor for more soldano
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Nothing I can note so far but I haven't been trying to compare it yet. I've actually got two tin cans for mojo that seem to be very difficult to read. If I cannot get the exact type, I'm going to have to take them out and do a little bit of guesswork to see what they are. Other than that, Board 1A is degooped. I managed to save the capacitor that holds that board in by slightly heating the solder joints up with the soldering iron. To have lost only one part in all of this is pretty astonishing actually, I expected more.

All part types are noted. The pedal, degooped still works like I got it so no mojo in the goop. All electrolytic caps are noted and there are some MKT caps on the 1A board too, as well as a trimpot leading into one of the tin cans.

Talking about caps. Best "clone" I built of a particular pedal used MKT caps. No idea why, just sounded so much tighter IMO and I had one with film caps to compare it to and there was an audible difference so it's definitely a thing.

Also, the plan is to build it with a clean blend later on, but I want to get one working as similar to this as I can possibly get.

EDIT: One tin can is an NTE102. Make that both. I can't read the last digit but I think a safe assumption is also NTE102. Thank fuck I have 20/10 vision.

EDIT 2: Early info about the switch, contrary to popular belief, it does switch something. The switch goes from lug 3 of the top dist pot and to some resistors on the board. In the off position, it bypasses that lug. What difference it makes overall I still don't know but it is actually connected to something.

EDIT 3: Quick attempt at a schematic for board B. I think I'll need sleep. zzzzzz
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If you manage a proper replica (preferably in a small box?) I'll have it I don't need a clean blend in-pedal
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