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Old 11-05-2016, 01:23 AM   #391
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The Handler = Lugia's Song >>> Most of Drones > Revolt > Aftermath
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:04 AM   #392
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Weird to think that this is from the guy who made that great video for Redemption.
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Old 11-05-2016, 03:55 AM   #393
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Did this band seriously release another thing that inaccessible to a big portion of their fans...? Or is it unofficial?
I just watched a shitty version with a pop up in the middle of the screen...

And I really don't see what's wrong with it. Does a very good job of conveying the tone and message of the song. Probably took a lot of hard work and love to make.
Didn't use the unholy version of the song that cuts out what's actually good about the song (have I mentioned a hundred times I want to hear the original version where the whole thing was rocky and bluesy?)

As for the "holding hands ends war" thing, that's almost literally how Drones ends... so why fault the video for that?
At least in the video it comes across more like someone who witnesses all the horrors, and decides to say fuck it and make a positive change. Which is painfully naïve, sure, but rather what you wish the world could be like.
Only thing the video honestly does well is it's a fittingly shit video for a shit song.
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Old 11-05-2016, 09:16 AM   #394
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Comments about the video from Reddit:

"Is it safe to say this was absolutely beautiful and that I also cried while watching it?"

"Right now I'm in tears, indeed it was beautiful."

"Wonder if this'll change any ones views on the song."

"Ok, I think that's the best song in the world. And this video just does justice to this masterpiece."
And so? What's the problem?
I may not like this track or think is an emotional masterpiece as much as those people do, but I can see why someone could get really emotional in listening through it.
And it isn't a wholly terrible song as many try to make it come across. It isn't innovative or particularly original, but I think if you exclude Matt's voice and lyrics (sorry Bells), you get a quite beautiful instrumental.
Wow, I can't believe I'm defending Aftermath even if it isn't my cup of tea...
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Old 11-05-2016, 09:31 AM   #395
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And so? What's the problem?
There isn't one?

I found them funny, not saying people shouldn't like it or that they're wrong.

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And it isn't a wholly terrible song as many try to make it come across. It isn't innovative or particularly original, but I think if you exclude Matt's voice and lyrics (sorry Bells), you get a quite beautiful instrumental.
I don't think anyone's trying to make it come across as anything tbh, we just really don't like it.

As for the instrumental, it's boring at best imo and the guitar towards the end is actually one of my least favourite parts about the song.
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Old 11-05-2016, 11:08 AM   #396
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I don't think anyone's trying to make it come across as anything tbh, we just really don't like it.
Maybe not from you, but I often get that impression, honestly, and about many other songs.

And (personal opinion) if the guitar work in the last part is boring, well... then I don't know why the one featured in another orchestral and extremely melodic song like Blackout is praised so much. It's in fact more "linear" and repetitive than the Aftermath one, but just because the song results more emotional (although is incredibly cheesy) it gets literally exalted.
It's a bit unfair to me, even if I love Blackout.
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Old 11-05-2016, 01:11 PM   #397
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Other than the first and last lines of the song, I think Matt's voice is really great in it.
It will always confuse me that the way those two lines sounds was intentional, though, because they're really rough, and not in any way that conveys a particular emotion, or anything. The last line actually sounds like Matt ran out of breath during the take.

The guitar is pretty magnificent, though, and more so than just the notes themselves, the tone and inflection of what's being played is pretty special, imo
Taking that out of the song (not just in the edit, but in Mutt's alteration of the song) is the biggest tragedy of this album, to me.

Anyways, the video is leagues better than the Follow Me one.
And people widely praised the Redemption one, but the mo was the same; this artists just has an overly sentimental, cheaply sad style. I guess people just liked the other song more.
I am very impressed with the hand drawn methods and all the work that goes into them, though.

And poking fun at people for being moved by something IS a bit poor.
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Old 11-05-2016, 02:02 PM   #398
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And people widely praised the Redemption one, but the mo was the same; this artists just has an overly sentimental, cheaply sad style. I guess people just liked the other song more.
Yeah, that's almost definitely a factor. Though I think it could also be down to the Redemption one dealing with a pretty personal subject that most people can relate to emotionally, even if it is a bit cheap. Compared to Aftermath, which tries to deal with a broader topic like war in a way that ends up coming across as suuuper naive, idealistic and maybe even a bit silly and patronising (to me, anyway).

I think the easiest way to put it is that, if I watched both videos on mute, Redemption would probably still move me. I imagine Aftermath would either bore me or make me chuckle. Can't remember the one for Follow Me but I'm probably not gonna go look for it

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And poking fun at people for being moved by something IS a bit poor.
Psssh, I do the same thing to my grandma when she cries at cheesy films

(tho it was mainly the 'masterpiece' claims that I found amusing tbf)
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The Follow Me one dealt with two "broken" people who couldn't cope with life until they met each other and had a baby (which helped them find each other before it was conceived.)
I had much more problem with that than this one. This one is a sentimental, idealistic picture of what someone would like life to be like.
The Follow Me one is propaganda for traditional family values.

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tries to deal with a broader topic like war in a way that ends up coming across as suuuper naive, idealistic and maybe even a bit silly and patronizing tbf)
And since this line exactly describes Drones (particularly Defector and Revolt,) and every part of TR that had a "political/social" tone... I can't really in fairness hold it against the video unless I denounce my love of Drones.
(Although to my credit here, I've bitched a ton about the chorus lyrics and message of Revolt.)
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The Follow Me one dealt with two "broken" people who couldn't cope with life until they met each other and had a baby (which helped them find each other before it was conceived.)
I had much more problem with that than this one. This one is a sentimental, idealistic picture of what someone would like life to be like.
The Follow Me one is propaganda for traditional family values.
Just wait as they discover that the cover of the album in which the track is featured basically looks like a homosexual broccolo.
By the way, I agree that, whilst Aftermath video may look too idealistic and clichéd to some fans, it manages to live up to the emotions, the feeling and the theme conveyed by the song itself.

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(Although to my credit here, I've bitched a ton about the chorus lyrics and message of Revolt.)
C'mon! You can make this world what you want!!1! You can revolt, mate!!1!2! You can revolt!!3!
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Old 11-05-2016, 04:30 PM   #401
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Knowing Revolt (or some form of it) used to be one of the first songs in the "story" saved me from having the sheer 1%er elitism of that song destroy the entire album for me...
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I just want them to make music that isn't bad. Is that too much to ask?
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