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Old 18-09-2009, 12:18 PM   #46
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Hell's he talking about?
Its gone straight over my head...
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Old 18-09-2009, 12:18 PM   #48
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srsly thought I wonder what prompted him to clarify his point on the board.
Maybe he read the thread about it on here. Let's hope he didn't see the PMT and 'Matt killing birds' thread..
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Old 18-09-2009, 12:19 PM   #50
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Who are those people? Please step forward...



That's normally where the best ideas come from.



srsly thought I wonder what prompted him to clarify his point on the board.
He most likely doesn't want to be branded as an anti-piracy copyrightist () and wanted to clarify.
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'Matt killing birds' thread..
I think he'd be rather amused by that thread!
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I think for the 1st time there are almost as many people in the news section as in banter.
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Old 18-09-2009, 12:21 PM   #54
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Besides, is it fair to tax ISPs for creating effective infrastucture? Wouldn't it halt progress right there and then?
yeah i dont agree with the idea of isps being involved, their job to me is the provision of data. i mean you could apply the same logic that because electricity is used to power computers they should be taxed for computers used to download illegally
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A few clarifications are needed! (Some of you think this was well thought out, but I swear I wrote it in 10 minutes after a few drinks without going too deep!):


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- Regarding usage, obviously I didn't factor in that people exchange enormous amounts of legal data through FTPs etc. for work purposes. What I meant to say was that it may be worth devising a method to create a charge for ISPs based on the downloading of digitally labelled data only. Everybody is familiar with paying more or less for things like electricity, heating and telephone based on usage and these are also services associated with modern basic human rights. It cannot be ignored that billions of gigs of copyright owned (and independently created) data are being exchanged, bringing in large gains for ISPs which for some reason the ISPs do not have to pay for. All emails, browsing websites, work etc of course should always be included in a LOWER overall monthly subscription charge. Of course, if ISPs were forced to pay independent collection agencies like PRS (who would trace ONLY labelled or coded files) the result would almost certainly be this cost being passed on to the consumer, but personally, if we were talking pennies per MB usage for music added on to an already lowered ISP subscription (as opposed to 79p per track for every download), I would be all for it, and I am sure the millions of up and coming artists out there who at the moment cannot get a record deal without signing away all of their rights (including merch, publishing and touring) would be interested too.

- Anyway, I just wanted to throw in an alternative view.
You are right. I just have to agree. Taking myself as an example, I literally always try and search for the cheapest way possible to get new music. Thinking about it, I don't have problems with paying my other bills, though, because "it's just the way it is". Guess I also need to start the rethinking right there.
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Maybe he read the thread about it on here. Let's hope he didn't see the PMT and 'Matt killing birds' thread..


seriously though, all this computer talk is making my brain hurt, i really don't understand computers.
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He most likely doesn't want to be branded as an anti-piracy copyrightist () and wanted to clarify.
Exactly what I was thinking.
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I think for the 1st time there are almost as many people in the news section as in banter.
Lolz, Matt's posted a thread! Quick everyone, to Main Muse! *points*
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I get your argument Mr Bellamy, but it's just unworkable...impossible to implement.
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