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Old 16-09-2017, 08:13 AM   #1
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Just saw MUSE tonight, meh...

They've been playing the same general gigs that they have for like the past 2 years. Ever since Drones was released they played a lot of similar stuff. It was almost like they played "big hits" from all of their albums. The only thing they played from OoS was "Plug In Baby." and not even a signature track from that album like Citizen Erased.

They played only their biggest and easily likable songs. Meaning the easy ones. Knights of Cydonia, Time is Running Out, Hysteria, Dead Inside, Madness, Supermassive Blackhole, Stockholm Syndrome, etc....

What's missing: Showbiz, Megalomania, Muscle Museum, Screenager (Rachiminov version), Microcuts, Hyper Music, Fillip, and Cave.

So disappointed that the British for some reason get to hear some of the goods songs but not the Americans. We get the generic songs lol.

Also, I have a question, what's with their new guitars? It doesn't have that raw amp sound that they used to do back in the analog days. The new guitar Matt was using tonight sounded like this guitar hero thing and while Matt played the damn thing fantastically, the damn guitar sounded so flat and plain. Whatever it is the new guitar sounds really synthetic and doesn't sound as good as their older guitars.
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Old 16-09-2017, 10:15 AM   #2
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You sound surprised, dawg. Have you not seen them for a while or kept up with their touring habits? That was actually a hella good set by US standards with TAB, SS and especially Butterflies.

Also the tone thing isn't down to the guitars themselves, just Matt's current rig setup. Fair amount of people have the same complaint thought - too washed out/'damp' and probs too fuzz + phase reliant as well. Shame 'cos Chris and Dom sound brill.
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You sound surprised, dawg. Have you not seen them for a while or kept up with their touring habits? That was actually a hella good set by US standards with TAB, SS and especially Butterflies.
This could be a pretty good sign for US fans actually, showing that maybe the complaints about the sets haven't fallen on deaf ears.
But maybe it's a bit too late, considering there are just few American gigs left.
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Old 16-09-2017, 12:22 PM   #4
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Nah, there's been complaints about US sets for yeeeeeeears. Don't see why they'd change their mind towards it now.

Biggest sign of that is NKOK coming back. Dropped it for the UK gigs 'cos they knew it'd actively get a bad response but just aren't as fussed for US gigs.
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Nah, there's been complaints about US sets for yeeeeeeears. Don't see why they'd change their mind towards it now.

Biggest sign of that is NKOK coming back. Dropped it for the UK gigs 'cos they knew it'd actively get a bad response but just aren't as fussed for US gigs.
I should've added "this time" after the first paragraph.
If I were to attend the Shoreline Amph. gig, though, to me TAB, SS and BAH would have made up just right for NKOK.
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They played only their biggest and easily likable songs. Meaning the easy ones. Knights of Cydonia, Time is Running Out, Hysteria, Dead Inside, Madness, Supermassive Blackhole, Stockholm Syndrome, etc....

What's missing: Showbiz, Megalomania, Muscle Museum, Screenager (Rachiminov version), Microcuts, Hyper Music, Fillip, and Cave.

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Old 16-09-2017, 06:58 PM   #7
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You sound surprised, dawg. Have you not seen them for a while or kept up with their touring habits? That was actually a hella good set by US standards with TAB, SS and especially Butterflies..
Yeah, been stalking their set lists since Drones Tour in 2015. After looking at their recent shows in Reading 2017 and Leeds 2017 though, I was low key praying for at least them dropping some old school gems like Showbiz and Citizen Erased though. I'm not surprised though, I think the crowd last night ruined the chance for any other Showbiz/OoS era stuff to be played last night. Why? Because Matt told everyone to sing along with him during Plug In Baby and NOBODY was singing along and it seemed like no one even knew what Plug In Baby was.

My girlfriend and I were the only ones singing it and people were turning around looking at us like "wtf?" because we were the only ones singing it lol. Ironic, I found it funny that when "Mercy" and "Knights of Cydonia" or "Uprising" came on, everyone went insane because they knew those ones. This just simply meant the majority of the stadium didn't listen to older stuff.

Oh, I forgot to mention Starlight. The crowd went insane during Starlight but no one knew Plug In Baby. It seemed like most fans last night were only aware of MUSE's BH&R-current day stuff but nothing else.

As a matter of fact I talked to some of the fans and most of them just seemed to acknowledge MUSE as a band with a big reputation and decent skills, but not many of them were like deeply invested into all their music. Would this be considered 'casuals' ?

The people there last night weren't bad but just observing the crowd reaction I instantly understood why MUSE plays all the easily likable songs or whatever.

When they played Stockholm Syndrome not many people were singing along as well. The part where he goes "This is.... the last time I'll.... forget you!" it was like quiet lol.

It could be because where I'm from in northern California we have lots of hipsters and wannabe tryhards. It maybe because lots of people who were there were for 30 Seconds to Mars. Who knows...

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Old 16-09-2017, 09:27 PM   #8
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Yeah, we know. Welcome to the sad reality of the American Muse fan.

Try and catch a gig in Europe if you ever have the chance. The setlists still won't be nearly as good as they could be, but there's a good chance of getting something better, same with the crowds.
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Old 16-09-2017, 11:16 PM   #9
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They've been "meh" for the best part of a decade now to be fair.
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It could be because where I'm from in northern California we have lots of hipsters and wannabe tryhards. It maybe because lots of people who were there were for 30 Seconds to Mars. Who knows...
OOS didn't come out over there for a fair few years tbf, so PIB was never really the huge song it is most other places. Black Holes and TR were what started to kick them into the US limelight as well so I guess it'd make sense for the crowd to mostly react to stuff from then onwards.
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Muse have been 'meh' ever since their hiatus after 2008 to record 'The Resistance'. The last great Muse gig was 2008's Royal Albert Hall which featured the big church organ on "Megalomania".
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That Little Animal, Smoledman, Muse have never been "meh" and will never be!!
Have a look at the Reading gig! I was there and their perfomance was really good and Matt's voice during Showbiz (and all the other songs anyway) was flawless and left us (the people around and I) speechless! I have seen them 7 times and I have never been disappointed. I have seen many other bands or singers but nobody can compete with them.

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Yeah, been stalking their set lists since Drones Tour in 2015. After looking at their recent shows in Reading 2017 and Leeds 2017 though, I was low key praying for at least them dropping some old school gems like Showbiz and Citizen Erased though. I'm not surprised though, I think the crowd last night ruined the chance for any other Showbiz/OoS era stuff to be played last night. Why? Because Matt told everyone to sing along with him during Plug In Baby and NOBODY was singing along and it seemed like no one even knew what Plug In Baby was.

My girlfriend and I were the only ones singing it and people were turning around looking at us like "wtf?" because we were the only ones singing it lol. Ironic, I found it funny that when "Mercy" and "Knights of Cydonia" or "Uprising" came on, everyone went insane because they knew those ones. This just simply meant the majority of the stadium didn't listen to older stuff.

Oh, I forgot to mention Starlight. The crowd went insane during Starlight but no one knew Plug In Baby. It seemed like most fans last night were only aware of MUSE's BH&R-current day stuff but nothing else.

As a matter of fact I talked to some of the fans and most of them just seemed to acknowledge MUSE as a band with a big reputation and decent skills, but not many of them were like deeply invested into all their music. Would this be considered 'casuals' ?

The people there last night weren't bad but just observing the crowd reaction I instantly understood why MUSE plays all the easily likable songs or whatever.

When they played Stockholm Syndrome not many people were singing along as well. The part where he goes "This is.... the last time I'll.... forget you!" it was like quiet lol.

It could be because where I'm from in northern California we have lots of hipsters and wannabe tryhards. It maybe because lots of people who were there were for 30 Seconds to Mars. Who knows...


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Nobody went insane when they played Butterflies and Hurricanes? WTF??

But it's sure it's different from the European crowd. In Reading, but also everywhere where I went to see them, the whole crowd was singing all the songs.
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Your signature says your first Muse gig was 2013 so perhaps had you seen them 5 years earlier you may feel differently. They're good but they're not great any more, sadly.
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