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Old 17-05-2016, 10:43 PM   #211
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Spiral Static isn't quite as on the nose as most of Showbiz is, but to me it seems pretty openly about seeing a girl you fancy dating another person, and trying to find out if that person treats her as well as he would, and possibly steal her away.

Anyways, for some people, sex really drives and defines a relationship for them, so it could be a moot point discussing if these songs are about sex or just relationships.
I'm just happy that they so far haven't really gotten lewd with their music, because I really hate that sort of thing. Even the obviously sexual stuff like Easily is done tastefully, imo.

I firmly believe PiB is simply about how playing music can make you forget your problems, and how likely playing guitar was an escape and an empowerment for him. Performing made him feel like a stronger, more confident person. That sort of thing.
But yes, there's an interview out there where Matt gave one of his crazy PiB explanations, and Dom says something like "I thought it was about your dick" and Matt replies "you think everything is about my dick."

My theory is that there's no way Matt's forgotten what PiB was about, but it's an uncomfortable/cheesy sort of thing to explain, so he bullshits about it.
I mean, hell, the entire "story" of Drones is likely just something so he doesn't have to talk about his bad relationship... So why not?

The older PiB stuff with the "virtual reality" and "god is in me" line still actually fit that idea of someone feeling like a different, better person while making music.
Somewhere around '06 Matt was still talking about how he feels like he's channeling his songs from the universe while he writes them, and isn't totally in control of the process.

Although I know he's said PiB was also along the lines of New Born, being concerned about what technology would do to personal relationships in the future... so it could be one of those "it's both" situations like Drones after all.
(I'm still rather fascinated that Drones and OoS have the same basic concept... Matt certainly dwells on things for long periods of time.)
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Old 17-05-2016, 10:48 PM   #212
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I can't find the dick one, but I did find this:

Bellamy: "I think the chorus is referring to some kind of analogy of the touring lifestyle, of what it feels like being on stage playing or whatever it might be, but kind of saying that really, I'm prepared to pretty much sacrifice everything in my personal life for the sake of playing music."
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Old 18-05-2016, 01:23 PM   #213
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I can't find the dick one, but I did find this:

Bellamy: "I think the chorus is referring to some kind of analogy of the touring lifestyle, of what it feels like being on stage playing or whatever it might be, but kind of saying that really, I'm prepared to pretty much sacrifice everything in my personal life for the sake of playing music."
Can you look again for the dick one?
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Old 18-05-2016, 03:17 PM   #214
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Can you look again for the dick one?
I'll absolutely post it if it turns up for me. I searched for a while, but had to give it up. I can only take flipping through so much Belldom and bitching about band members' girlfriends.
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Old 18-05-2016, 04:59 PM   #215
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I think this was at an Australian interview, video, they were sitting on a couch on stage, the audience behind them. And they answered qu.from the crowd, right?

No, it wasn't but...that answer at about 1:30

https://youtu.be/ue8yxiVVsgc
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Old 18-05-2016, 05:13 PM   #216
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Sorry, searching for anything with the lockdown on these work devices is nearly impossible.
I promise you it exists. It's not something you forget once you see it.

The most factual one I assume was the article where he says that on Origin, lots of the songs each line can be about something different, like relationships, touring, computers, politics, etc, but that he's sorry it wasn't very philosophical or interesting, but the actual "plug in baby" is his guitar.
I think it's an old Kerrang, or something.

I've also found references to an interviewer asking about PiB, getting an "I don't remember" answer, and asking about Matt saying it's about genetically engineered puppies and Matt's reply is "I say a lot of things."
That's pretty much the answer to everything...
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Old 18-05-2016, 05:18 PM   #217
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I think this was at an Australian interview, video, they were sitting on a couch on stage, the audience behind them. And they answered qu.from the crowd, right?

No, it wasn't but...that answer at about 1:30

https://youtu.be/ue8yxiVVsgc
And 4:30 explains why he doesn't want to answer lyric and meaning questions, doesn't it?

I had managed to never see this one!

So we do know he's self aware about his lyrical prowess...
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Old 18-05-2016, 05:34 PM   #218
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Just found this one, interesting. Even if some things might not be true today, or he was thinking about differently then..but it is an open interview I would say.

https://youtu.be/47ws-nzaalI
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Old 19-05-2016, 06:09 AM   #219
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It started really being obvious during the early pre-Drones interviews, but a lot of that interview seems still relevant, oddly enough. I read all the old articles when they did the blacked out mag covers on IG, and it was notable how the themes he's writing about haven't changed, while their personal lives and (depressingly) live shows have gone completely different.
That early German Ticketmaster interview where Matt said he'd been trying to recapture the feelings of OoS always made me think it might be sadly artificial, but he really is talking about the same exact things he was during OoS, and not just the fear of technology stuff, but from topics like losing yourself to the "characters" he puts himself into in his songs.
I do find it interesting, and hope it's not all just fan service, or attempting to reconnect with those old fans.
That someone could change so much but then still be dwelling on the same topics 15 years later is quite interesting to me.
Seeing him talk here about potential electronic style music is cool, too.

The "character" part always bothered me, and moreso during the newer Muse albums; I never liked the idea that he was writing things that weren't personal, just for shits and giggles, apparently. US was absolutely the crowning example of the sort of bullshit out of touch nature of that sort of thing.

I still wonder exactly what he means by it, and if in fact he's just saying that the songs might be about something he's thought about, or dwelled on, but they're just not exactly first person; he's never been IN the situation, but he's thought about it a lot.
I tend to, well, just because I might talk about or write about something I ponder a lot but maybe haven't exactly been in that situation, I still think of that as "me" if that makes sense. It's still personal.
So, it's always been a weird point for me, and made me wonder even retroactively to the '00s, if the themes of the songs weren't all a bit false. I like to think not, though. Just to save myself embarrassment.

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Old 19-05-2016, 10:51 PM   #220
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I am loving the musey areas of this board rn, just to say. So nice to see proper discussions around here
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Spiral Static isn't quite as on the nose as most of Showbiz is, but to me it seems pretty openly about seeing a girl you fancy dating another person, and trying to find out if that person treats her as well as he would, and possibly steal her away.
Interesting, I interpret Spiral Static as being about someone (or a couple) who on the surface has a seemingly perfect relationship, but on the inside they feel something is wrong. They dread the end of the relationship as it looms overhead. It's one of my favorite Muse songs both lyrically and musically, actually.

Edit: Obviously the original demo lyrics lend themselves much more clearly to your interpretation.
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Spiral Static isn't quite as on the nose as most of Showbiz is, but to me it seems pretty openly about seeing a girl you fancy dating another person, and trying to find out if that person treats her as well as he would, and possibly steal her away.

Anyways, for some people, sex really drives and defines a relationship for them, so it could be a moot point discussing if these songs are about sex or just relationships.
I'm just happy that they so far haven't really gotten lewd with their music, because I really hate that sort of thing. Even the obviously sexual stuff like Easily is done tastefully, imo.
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Interesting, I interpret Spiral Static as being about someone (or a couple) who on the surface has a seemingly perfect relationship, but on the inside they feel something is wrong. They dread the end of the relationship as it looms overhead. It's one of my favorite Muse songs both lyrically and musically, actually.

Edit: Obviously the original demo lyrics lends themselves much more clearly to your interpretation.
Interesting. I'd say both have merits for Spiral Static.

Yeah. It'd be embarrassing and weirdly lurid if more overt sex stuff featured.
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I firmly believe PiB is simply about how playing music can make you forget your problems, and how likely playing guitar was an escape and an empowerment for him. Performing made him feel like a stronger, more confident person. That sort of thing.
But yes, there's an interview out there where Matt gave one of his crazy PiB explanations, and Dom says something like "I thought it was about your dick" and Matt replies "you think everything is about my dick."

My theory is that there's no way Matt's forgotten what PiB was about, but it's an uncomfortable/cheesy sort of thing to explain, so he bullshits about it.
I mean, hell, the entire "story" of Drones is likely just something so he doesn't have to talk about his bad relationship... So why not?

The older PiB stuff with the "virtual reality" and "god is in me" line still actually fit that idea of someone feeling like a different, better person while making music.
Somewhere around '06 Matt was still talking about how he feels like he's channeling his songs from the universe while he writes them, and isn't totally in control of the process.

Although I know he's said PiB was also along the lines of New Born, being concerned about what technology would do to personal relationships in the future... so it could be one of those "it's both" situations like Drones after all.
(I'm still rather fascinated that Drones and OoS have the same basic concept... Matt certainly dwells on things for long periods of time.)
In the Q cover feature ahead of Drones' release this time last year, there was a bit at the start of the feature about the symmetry between the guy writing Showbiz/Origin and the guy writing Drones. There is certainly curious symmetries about mixing the personal, the political, and the prevalent fear of technology on both those albums. That part, for me, was perhaps the feature most dominated by the full-circle nature of the similarities of the lyric writing. Truthfully I hadn't given it much thought, but there is a lot of interesting stuff to be said for the similarities.

Maybe what Plug in Baby wound up being about lyrically is something about the idea of using music and performing/writing it as an escape from a toxic personal life. But I dunno... there's all manner of explanations and interpretations, and the right one is in the eye on the person viewing the lyrics I guess. Its all subjective, innit?
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Old 21-05-2016, 11:53 PM   #223
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I never thought of Spiral Static in that way. I like it.
The demo leaves little to interpretation, but there's nothing saying things didn't change in the time before recording.

When I first heard the song (it was the studio version) I found the first few lines really off putting and thought the song was boring.
Despite there being no age difference, I always picture super young, gangly Matt when hearing most of those old songs, too. This did not help.

I remember being so in love with the ending that I decided I was going to have to deal with it.
I've really loved it for a long time now.
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10 years this month since Black Holes was released... where does the time go?

Granted I only really started listening in 2008, but still
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I'd love for Muse's next album to take inspiration from this kind of stuff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F11kofDK5mI (the intro, not the song obviously)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZRjj-TmRFs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRi1OXQucpM

Give us haunting soundscapes and beautiful melodies. Isolated System was a great example from not too long ago.
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