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Old 13-04-2012, 07:51 AM   #1501
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I've been thinking lately, by 'dubstep + metal' they might mean that one song has a sort of 'drop the bass' section but with less dubstep and electronics and more guitar + riffage. That could be the song with the drop A riff. It could also be a contender to take the riffs away from Stockholm Syndrome - maybe, if what I'm thinking turns out to be true.
That makes the most sense, considering what we know.

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Does anyone think they'll be extending the setlists next tour? I'm very sceptical about it but surely they'll have to - maybe so that the minimum is 19 songs or something? I can definitely see more beef on the horizon if they don't.
I'd think they'd have to in order to accommodate for a new album. Whether they do it not remains to be seen.

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Old 13-04-2012, 12:52 PM   #1502
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I'm not sure what to expect this tour. Surely there has to be a point where they're planning their setlists and notice that if they only play the biggest songs that they're going to spend this whole tour only playing the Reading/Leeds encore + Plug in Baby + new songs if they dont start rotating hits and/or playing for longer.

This is especially going to be a factor when you consider that on The Resistance tour they were only playing 8 new songs with any regularity (I Belong to You and Neutron Star Collision barely being played). This tour they will have all the back catalogue they had on the last tour plus maybe 12 new songs to play.
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Old 13-04-2012, 01:30 PM   #1503
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I'm not sure what to expect this tour. Surely there has to be a point where they're planning their setlists and notice that if they only play the biggest songs that they're going to spend this whole tour only playing the Reading/Leeds encore + Plug in Baby + new songs if they dont start rotating hits and/or playing for longer.

This is especially going to be a factor when you consider that on The Resistance tour they were only playing 8 new songs with any regularity (I Belong to You and Neutron Star Collision barely being played). This tour they will have all the back catalogue they had on the last tour plus maybe 12 new songs to play.
I'm okay with that part

But I definitely think they're going to have to expand their setlists to accommodate for their new material. I went to see System of a Down (incidentally, a concert they were apparently recording for a live album ) ,recently, and they played about 25 songs. Granted, most weren't as long as a Muse song typically is, but even so, it allowed for a wealth of older songs and new ones. The setlist was absolutely brilliant, probably the best I've ever seen. I think Muse need to start thinking more heavily on what makes a good show, and what songs are popular. I definitely think they need to expand the shows. Even two more songs played could make a huge difference.
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Considering the fact they seemed to drop US and MK pretty quickly last time, I have little hope for the next tour.
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Old 13-04-2012, 07:14 PM   #1505
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I'm okay with that part

But I definitely think they're going to have to expand their setlists to accommodate for their new material. I went to see System of a Down (incidentally, a concert they were apparently recording for a live album ) ,recently, and they played about 25 songs. Granted, most weren't as long as a Muse song typically is, but even so, it allowed for a wealth of older songs and new ones. The setlist was absolutely brilliant, probably the best I've ever seen. I think Muse need to start thinking more heavily on what makes a good show, and what songs are popular. I definitely think they need to expand the shows. Even two more songs played could make a huge difference.
showbiz and darkshines? but I agree, an extended setlist would be preferable, not only to make room for new songs, but also to provide a chance to... um... "synchronize" the older and newer songs, so that the show would have a proper flow. this will only become harder and harder considering the difference in style between a tr and oos song, but I think they'll manage. I'm hopeful as always
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Old 13-04-2012, 09:58 PM   #1507
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showbiz and darkshines? but I agree, an extended setlist would be preferable, not only to make room for new songs, but also to provide a chance to... um... "synchronize" the older and newer songs, so that the show would have a proper flow. this will only become harder and harder considering the difference in style between a tr and oos song, but I think they'll manage. I'm hopeful as always


But yes, as awesome as they were when I went to see them, the setlist was all over the place. On the whole, it was really just a collection of singles, with a few exceptions, and whilst I understand that it is important to play a wealth of singles, a few rarer songs could definitely improve the pacing.
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But yes, as awesome as they were when I went to see them, the setlist was all over the place. On the whole, it was really just a collection of singles, with a few exceptions, and whilst I understand that it is important to play a wealth of singles, a few rarer songs could definitely improve the pacing.
I don't mind that they play quite a few singles - it's to be expected of any band. It's the fact that it's always the same singles. Seriously, Starlight, TIRO and Knights never needed to be played at every gig - swap them out for other singles from time-to-time.
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I don't mind that they play quite a few singles - it's to be expected of any band. It's the fact that it's always the same singles. Seriously, Starlight, TIRO and Knights never needed to be played at every gig - swap them out for other singles from time-to-time.
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Or (to be more realistic) something like SFA, Invincible or Apocalypse Please. Surely, it bores them to play the same songs at every gig? A lot of it, when thought about, doesn't even make sense.

I'm in setlist/general Muse ranting mode at the moment - this thread isn't the best place to try and contain it
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Old 13-04-2012, 10:48 PM   #1511
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I don't mind that they play quite a few singles - it's to be expected of any band. It's the fact that it's always the same singles. Seriously, Starlight, TIRO and Knights never needed to be played at every gig - swap them out for other singles from time-to-time.
Personally, it's ridiculous for you to think that those songs SHOULDN'T be played every gig. Every band who is of any size what so ever plays a minimum of 15-20 of the same songs every single night. Muse certainly don't sell anywhere near as much in terms of albums/singles as their competitors(Foos/Green Day/RHCP/Coldplay), so it's fair to say anything that isn't played on the radio is unknown material for a lot of the people who attend the gigs. With Muse it's the fact that they don't play for long enough, especially at their Arena shows, which then leaves them no room to include rarer songs.
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Personally, it's ridiculous for you to think that those songs SHOULDN'T be played every gig. Every band who is of any size what so ever plays a minimum of 15-20 of the same songs every single night. Muse certainly don't sell anywhere near as much in terms of albums/singles as their competitors(Foos/Green Day/RHCP/Coldplay), so it's fair to say anything that isn't played on the radio is unknown material for a lot of the people who attend the gigs. With Muse it's the fact that they don't play for long enough, especially at their Arena shows, which then leaves them no room to include rarer songs.
Someone clearly doesn't pay attention to Radiohead then.

I'm saying they'd still have enough material that casuals know in the setlists if they left/swapped out a couple every now and again. If you're a casual fan, you can't expect the setlists to be tailored entirely towards you - you have to go there expecting material you haven't heard before to be played. It's not all about going to hear songs you already know, it's about discovering new ones too.
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Someone clearly doesn't pay attention to Radiohead then.
Radioheads last 2 shows, 15 of the same songs were played each night,?

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If you're a casual fan, you can't expect the setlists to be tailored entirely towards you - you have to go there expecting material you haven't heard before to be played. It's not all about going to hear songs you already know, it's about discovering new ones too.
no, that is correct. But when you go to a muse arena show, they play the 15 same songs every night, then its show over.

When you go to a Radiohead arena show, they play the same 15 songs every night, but then they go on to play another 8 songs on top,
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Radioheads last 2 shows, 15 of the same songs were played each night,?
You said "every single night". I can tell you right now that they vary it up considerably more than Muse who keep the same base setlist (varying up the odd song in set rotational spots) for just about every gig on a tour.

My point is this - you can predict a Muse gig pretty easily for almost an entire tour, not just what songs will be played but the exact order as well - this shouldn't happen.
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You said "every single night". I can tell you right now that they vary it up considerably more than Muse who keep the same base setlist (varying up the odd song in set rotational spots) for just about every gig on a tour.
But when your Matt sitting in a room writing the setlist, and you have 15 hits to fit into a 15 song set (not including jams/interlude) you obviously are going to keep the same basic setlist.

When your Thom sitting in a room writing the setlist, and you have 15 hits to fit into a 23 song setlist, you can sit there and think ok, this rarity will fit in between these two songs etc...Which is how variation comes about.

If Muse played the same 15 songs in a different order every night, it wouldnt make any difference because its still just the same 15 songs.
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