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Old 04-07-2017, 11:28 PM   #541
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Surely if they find touts there's some mechanism to cancel the orders?

Think that happened with the 2013 War Child gig. I merely recall it sold out then some tickets appeared closer to the date... least that's how I got mine.
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Old 05-07-2017, 12:02 AM   #542
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It's incredibly common for extra tickets to things to go onsale right before a gig; Ticketmaster lets you sign up for an email for that now.
It's due to finalizing the stage sizes (for arena shows) and probably tickets reverting back from other sources.
I've often wondering if it includes scalped tickets that didn't sell, since the ticket sellers partner with them (or do it themselves, nowdays.)

I can't imagine how they would be able to figure out if it was a "legit" sale or one to a reseller.
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Old 06-07-2017, 06:55 AM   #543
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I still don't get why they aren't playing a larger venue for this sort of thing which fans have been wanting for years? I know they like intimate venues and all but it's a bit unreasonable to have a "choose the setlist" kind of thing when only 2000 people can get in. People are coming from all around the country. People are coming from all around Europe and those who can afford it are traveling even further.

Why not play the Royal Albert Hall or the Brixton Academy? At least with a 5,000 capacity venue those who really want to go probably would be able to.
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Old 06-07-2017, 09:35 AM   #544
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I still don't get why they aren't playing a larger venue for this sort of thing which fans have been wanting for years? I know they like intimate venues and all but it's a bit unreasonable to have a "choose the setlist" kind of thing when only 2000 people can get in. People are coming from all around the country. People are coming from all around Europe and those who can afford it are traveling even further.

Why not play the Royal Albert Hall or the Brixton Academy? At least with a 5,000 capacity venue those who really want to go probably would be able to.
It's BBC Proms season mid July - early September. No way the RAH is going to be available for some band to do a charity gig in the middle of August with their being at least one concert, sometimes two, every summer night!
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Old 06-07-2017, 03:59 PM   #545
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Why would they have to do the gig right now, though...? They could literally just do it whenever there's available space.
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Old 06-07-2017, 08:02 PM   #546
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I've heard that RAH is booked up a year in advance. Probably not easy to just squeeze a cheeky gig in, though the other way of looking at it is they could have planned this as part of R&L.
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Old 07-07-2017, 11:59 PM   #547
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Yeah it woud've been amazing to be able to choose R&L setlists and make 80k people happy, if they were going to do something special for it anyway, this was the perfect thing.
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Old 08-07-2017, 12:42 AM   #548
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It is absolutely frustrating that they insist on doing stuff like this only at tiny shows, even unannounced like Zepp/Montreux.
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Old 08-07-2017, 05:06 AM   #549
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R+L was complained about for the Origin shows since the festival is naturally filled with a lot of non-fans or at least not big fans. The best solutions are still to make these shows larger (or several small shows), or even better, do fantastic shows every night so there's not a giant drop of quality after the special nights.
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I still don't get why they aren't playing a larger venue for this sort of thing which fans have been wanting for years? I know they like intimate venues and all but it's a bit unreasonable to have a "choose the setlist" kind of thing when only 2000 people can get in. People are coming from all around the country. People are coming from all around Europe and those who can afford it are traveling even further.

Why not play the Royal Albert Hall or the Brixton Academy? At least with a 5,000 capacity venue those who really want to go probably would be able to.
Yeah a Brixton would've worked, not least given bands have usually played their R/L headliner warm-ups there (I saw Kasabian in 2012 and Green Day in 2013 at Brixton in the week before they did those festivals).

Maybe SBE was easier to book. I can imagine it being more special for those there to be in a 2000 venue, but they could easily sell an arena show with this request dynamic.
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They're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

People/fans want everything. We want intimate shows and we want request shows, but we want to be able to go to these shows so we want big shows with compromise too to make sure we get there.

Sometimes, there has to be an acceptable of what is feasible and/or an acceptance of just what the band are doing. Even if I didn't have a ticket, I think an intimate request show is much cooler than an arena one. Would I be just as chuffed is there was an arena one - yes.

The Psycho tour was just about the best compromise possible, and I think it is (a little) fair that when the fans kick off for a show like SBE, they do point out they did the Psycho tour. That, of course, doesn't negate the perfectly valid complaints about recent shows and setlists (we all know a bit of light, sensible rotation would be eminently possible).
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They're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

People/fans want everything. We want intimate shows and we want request shows, but we want to be able to go to these shows so we want big shows with compromise too to make sure we get there.

Sometimes, there has to be an acceptable of what is feasible and/or an acceptance of just what the band are doing. Even if I didn't have a ticket, I think an intimate request show is much cooler than an arena one. Would I be just as chuffed is there was an arena one - yes.

The Psycho tour was just about the best compromise possible, and I think it is (a little) fair that when the fans kick off for a show like SBE, they do point out they did the Psycho tour. That, of course, doesn't negate the perfectly valid complaints about recent shows and setlists (we all know a bit of light, sensible rotation would be eminently possible).
Yeah - I think Muse are big enough for a request arena date but an intimate show is still a good thing, and for those with tickets, I think it'll be a fucking amazing night, and I do think the show is ultimately a good thing, provided that hopefully they dig out some proper obscure gems.

I was prepared for the fact I wouldn't be able to get tickets for this one, so I'm ok missing out and instead maybe going Belfast Vital or Leeds (busy on the Sunday of August BH so can't do Reading). In terms of the other stuff, I guess its just me idly dreaming tbh. Although the Psycho Tour was cool tbf.
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I guess I don't see what the compromise would be doing larger venues for a request tour?
I'd be willing to wager the reason people are asking for intimate shows is mostly because they know that's the only time the band will play a good set, at this point.

Still sell the majority of the tickets through the fan presales, and nothing changes.
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I guess I don't see what the compromise would be doing larger venues for a request tour?
I'd be willing to wager the reason people are asking for intimate shows is mostly because they know that's the only time the band will play a good set, at this point.

Still sell the majority of the tickets through the fan presales, and nothing changes.
Agreed. How many people are asking for intimate venues because it's the only shot they have at seeing Muse at their best or significantly above average? Within the United States arguably it's the only time you should go see them and it fucking pains me to say that. I know I don't care about intimate venues.... Actually I might start to care if they continue doing this early entrance VIP bullshit on the next tour (which is the primary reason I skipped this one).
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Let's be honest; they'd still do this VIP shit at the smaller venues, too. It's just free money for them that they know they can milk out of their hardcore fans who want to be up front.
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