Share your controversial Muse opinions II - More Radiohead talk

[SerpentSatellite]

I dunno, when you're playing 15 song sets, and half of them have some sort of often long as hell "intro" (not to mention the equally choreographed outros,) it starts to feel like filler.
This is something I would expect a band to do that doesn't have 7 albums, and is maybe struggling to fill the set time. Or a band that's so bored or lazy they don't want to add more songs, maybe.

Putting Prelude before Starlight, and JFK before whatever random song that wasn't Defector (that it often didn't even make sense with) just cemented in my mind that they were simply trying to waste as much time as possible.

Why does the band need such a long break before every damn song? They're not 80.

[01fromfinland]

Originally Posted by SerpentSatellite

I dunno, when you're playing 15 song sets, and half of them have some sort of often long as hell "intro" (not to mention the equally choreographed outros,) it starts to feel like filler.
This is something I would expect a band to do that doesn't have 7 albums, and is maybe struggling to fill the set time. Or a band that's so bored or lazy they don't want to add more songs, maybe.

Putting Prelude before Starlight, and JFK before whatever random song that wasn't Defector (that it often didn't even make sense with) just cemented in my mind that they were simply trying to waste as much time as possible.

Why does the band need such a long break before every damn song? They're not 80.

Taken from the Hartwall arena set(which was actually above average for the tour considering we got Map, TaB and Reapers):

*Isolated System(shortened)*
The Handler
SMBH + Voodoo Child intro
Prelude
Starlight
Feeling Good
Munich Jam
Madness
*JFK*
Interlude
Hysteria

That is actually some meme-tier shit. JFK INTO INTERLUDE and then Hysteria? Wtf man?

[frozenbanana]

Originally Posted by 01fromfinland

Taken from the Hartwall arena set(which was actually above average for the tour considering we got Map, TaB and Reapers):

*Isolated System(shortened)*
The Handler
SMBH + Voodoo Child intro
Prelude
Starlight
Feeling Good
Munich Jam
Madness
*JFK*
Interlude
Hysteria

That is actually some meme-tier shit. JFK INTO INTERLUDE and then Hysteria? Wtf man?

Yeah, this was beyond a joke. Just a load of crap. What's worse is that half of those indulgent wanky intros like Voodoo Child and IS were played at Glasto, where they didn't even have the excuse of big screens and drones to accommodate (The Handler's visuals were a complete fail on the festival stage)

[forevermusic]

Originally Posted by 01fromfinland

Taken from the Hartwall arena set(which was actually above average for the tour considering we got Map, TaB and Reapers):

*Isolated System(shortened)*
The Handler
SMBH + Voodoo Child intro
Prelude
Starlight
Feeling Good
Munich Jam
Madness
*JFK*
Interlude
Hysteria

That is actually some meme-tier shit. JFK INTO INTERLUDE and then Hysteria? Wtf man?

Yeah we got JFK -> Interlude -> Hysteria in London too. Didn't work.

It worked better going into Stockholm Syndrome, and it oddly worked going into Assassin - if thematically questionable - but not as well as what it actually fucking leads into on the LP.

Overall though, yes, the flow of that section left a lot to be desired. And it was hardly that happening for us given Dead Inside directly lead into Isolated System.

Originally Posted by frozenbanana

Yeah, this was beyond a joke. Just a load of crap. What's worse is that half of those indulgent wanky intros like Voodoo Child and IS were played at Glasto, where they didn't even have the excuse of big screens and drones to accommodate (The Handler's visuals were a complete fail on the festival stage)

Yeah on the festival tour it felt a bit like too much just persisting with all the intros at once. Although I think The Handler visuals didn't look like a total fail, even if not quite as good as the high screens on the Drones Tour.

[Espectro Cuatro]

Originally Posted by FromTexas

You're best suited as a cunt.

Bringing back this post from 3 years ago.

Big Freeze is the best song on T2L.

[MartianSpaghettiRider]

Originally Posted by Espectro Cuatro

Big Freeze is the best song on T2L.

That isn't controversial, it's a matter of fact.

EDIT: Actually, at this point I think every "pop" song in T2L, with the exception of Follow Me (on the bad side) and Animals (on the awesome side), is among the best of the album.

[MartianSpaghettiRider]

Linkening to my previous reply, I'll share my controversial opinion...

Whilst I still find the music from Drones very, very good (even with some peaks of excellence), I would have loved more of they kept playing around with the electronic and poppy elements from T2L. Who knows, maybe it could've gotten them to experiment for real in the future.

[01fromfinland]

Unsustainable is actually a really good song and one of my favorites from T2L. I think people give it way too much shit, it's actually good plus tons of fun to play.

[MartianSpaghettiRider]

Originally Posted by 01fromfinland

Unsustainable is actually a really good song and one of my favorites from T2L. I think people give it way too much shit, it's actually good plus tons of fun to play.

Yeah, it must be quite libidinous pressing that Whammy pedal like mad.

[01fromfinland]

Originally Posted by MartianSpaghettiRider

Yeah, it must be quite libidinous pressing that Whammy pedal like mad.

No fun allowed?

[MartianSpaghettiRider]

Originally Posted by 01fromfinland

No fun allowed?

And why not?

[01fromfinland]

Originally Posted by MartianSpaghettiRider

And why not?

I mean, might've misunderstood you, but your post made it sound like you don't really dig the song.

[MartianSpaghettiRider]

Originally Posted by 01fromfinland

I mean, might've misunderstood you, but your post made it sound like you don't really dig the song.

No, no, I replied like that because I do really like Unsustainable!
Being an amateur guitarist, it would be dream owning a Whammy just to rock it out.

[01fromfinland]

Originally Posted by MartianSpaghettiRider

No, no, I replied like that because I do really like Unsustainable! :laugh:

Oh, I guess I'm too used to people saying shit like that sarcastically here all the time

But I mean yeah. It's not like it's really to smash whammy up and down, do some slides and all that silly stuff, but hey, it's fun Unsustainable, imo, is just all Matt's signature moves during gigs in one song. Scratches from behind the nut, messing with whammy/trem, all sorts of slides and kaoss insanity. Good stuff.

[lurkinglurker]

The 2nd Law has the best production of their albums.