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Showbiz 0 0%
Origin of Symmetry 5 11.90%
Absolution 3 7.14%
Black Holes & Revelations 6 14.29%
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The 2nd Law 14 33.33%
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Old 14-02-2016, 06:25 PM   #46
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SS and TSP should sound more like Dead Star I think.
Not a bad shout. I think I plump more for what Devin Townsend achieved on Alien, but that might be a little too extreme (though the idea of SS given that massive, sledgehammer force is seriously appealing). Pelagial by The Ocean might be a better fit.
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Old 14-02-2016, 06:35 PM   #47
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I think the perfect album, production/mix-wise, for me would be a combination of:

Vocals from T2L
Guitar from Drones
Bass from Drones
Drums from T2L
Piano from Abso or TR
Strings + trumpets from T2L
Synths from TR

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What sort of production do people feel would suit Abso best?
Assuming we're picking from their discography, probs Drones. Decent clarity and dynamics (if not on T2L's level) without being so 'clean' that it loses it's punch.
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I'd still opt for something dirtier and more grandiose than Drones. Think albums in general, not just Muse's discography.

Actually, listening to Alien some more, there's some nice emphasis on the bass here.
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Assuming we're picking from their discography, probs Drones. Decent clarity and dynamics (if not on T2L's level) without being so 'clean' that it loses it's punch.
That was literally everything I was gonna say.
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What exactly do we mean when we say overproduced?
It means some aspect of the production (the actual building of the track in studio) has been done to hell, this can be done in post-production such as adding effects and fiddling with everything after a preliminary mix has been done. In essence when people say "overproduced", they're describing how the whole package hits their ears. They know something's 'off', either it's too clean, too muddy, too processed, etc.

It's a lot harder to identify the specific things that sound 'off' if you're not well versed in the terminology/knowing how to attribute each production term or characteristic which sounds you hear.

Talking more specifically about mixing/mastering is a bit different but if often falls under the umbrella term of production/overproduction, though the producer doesn't tend to be the mixer or masterer. With this stage things like 'loudness' and 'clipping' come into play.
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Which is why we're talking about things sounding muddy, spacious, clean, etc. As we're on a !usic forum, it's a safe bet that we've heard enough music to know subpar production when we hear it, even when we don't get the technical aspects.

What sort of production do people feel would suit Abso best?
I think the production it has suits it quite well to be honest. It's got that kind of 'metal' tone with the drumkit, especially with that tightly tuned snare on TIRO for example.

I think someone mentioned about the SS riff earlier which I kinda get. Verses and chorus sound great, and the riff doesn't sound particularly bad, like the guitar tone has a fair bit of low end taken down which makes the verses and chorus pop out a bit more. If they had got a guitar tone more like the Earls Court sound where it almost sounds like a synth

Plus you get those little imperfections like the guitar fade out in the last chorus of SS that I can't remember happening much if at all since BH&R

Also the drums on AP and RBS are top

I think Hysteria is pretty much as perf as it can get on record. Maybe could've done with something else in the second verse but everything just sounds massive and the solo and last chorus are fab
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It means some aspect of the production (the actual building of the track in studio) has been done to hell, this can be done in post-production such as adding effects and fiddling with everything after a preliminary mix has been done. In essence when people say "overproduced", they're describing how the whole package hits their ears. They know something's 'off', either it's too clean, too muddy, too processed, etc.

It's a lot harder to identify the specific things that sound 'off' if you're not well versed in the terminology/knowing how to attribute each production term or characteristic which sounds you hear.

Talking more specifically about mixing/mastering is a bit different but if often falls under the umbrella term of production/overproduction, though the producer doesn't tend to be the mixer or masterer. With this stage things like 'loudness' and 'clipping' come into play.
I was referring more to some of the answers people were saying than asking for myself, but 🔝 answer

And for what it's worth with the poll I voted OoS
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