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Old 07-02-2018, 08:03 PM   #61
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Sometimes I feel like people on this board get stuck too much on the lyrics. Like, come on, it's U2 as fuck, but the music is at least good.

Okay, fine, now that we've gone this far, let me say this:

Great songs on T2L: Animals
Good songs on T2L: Supremacy, Panic Station, Survival, Big Freeze, Liquid State, T2L: Unsustainable
OK songs on T2L: T2L: IS, Madness, Follow Me
Fuck off: Prelude, Explorers, Save Me
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:18 PM   #62
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Sometimes I feel like people on this board get stuck too much on the lyrics. Like, come on, it's U2 as fuck, but the music is at least good.

Okay, fine, now that we've gone this far, let me say this:

Great songs on T2L: Animals
Good songs on T2L: Supremacy, Panic Station, Survival, Big Freeze, Liquid State, T2L: Unsustainable
OK songs on T2L: T2L: IS, Madness, Follow Me
Fuck off: Prelude, Explorers, Save Me
Poor Explorers and poor IS...
Mine would go like this:

Great: Panic Station, Animals, Big Freeze, Isolated System.
Good: Supremacy, Madness, Prelude, Survival, Explorers, Unsustainable (this walks the line between good and great).
OK: Follow Me, Save Me.
So-so: Liquid State (good lyrics, but the song seems structurally half baked).
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:22 PM   #63
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Amazing: Isolated System
Great: Animals
Good: Supremacy, Panic Station
Decent/Okay: Follow Me, Survival, Explorers, Big Freeze
Pretty bad: Madness, Save Me, Liquid State, Unsustainable

But the biggest issue for me is that it just doesn't work as an album, which is very important to me. Muse can talk about the death of the album as much as they want, but I'm not interested in listening a random collection of songs.
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Old 07-02-2018, 08:52 PM   #64
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ORIGIN OF SYMMETRY
Wonderful: NB, SD, MC, Megalomania.
Great: Bliss, PIB, CE, Screenager.
Good: Hyper Music, Darkshines, Feeling Good.

ABSOLUTION
Wonderful: SS, BAH, Hysteria.
Great: AP, FAWY, TOADA, RBS.
Good: TIRO, SFA, Blackout, Endlessly, TSP.

BLACK HOLES & REVELATIONS
Wonderful: Hoodoo, KOC.
Great: TAB, SMBH, MOTP, Invincible, Assassin, COD.
Good: Starlight, Soldier's Poem, Assassin.
OK: Exo-Politics.

THE RESISTANCE
Wonderful: Exo2, Exo3.
Great: Resistance, Undisclosed Desires, MK Ultra, IBTY, Exo1.
Good: USOE, Guiding Light, US.
OK: Uprising.

DRONES
Wonderful: DI, Reapers.
Great: The Handler, Defector, Revolt, Drones.
Good: Mercy, Aftermath, The Globalist.
OK: Psycho.
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Old 07-02-2018, 09:02 PM   #65
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Supremacy - 4/10
Madness - 6/10
Panic Station - 7/10
Survival - 5/10
Follow Me - 5/10
Animals - 7.5/10
Explorers - 4/10
Big Freeze - 2/10
Save Me - 3/10
Liquid State - 5.5/10
Unsustainable - 3/10
Isolated System - 8/10

Taken in combination w/ what Tjet said about it not working as an album.

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it's U2 as fuck, but the music is at least good.
impossible combo

(also I quoted the lyrics because their post literally brought them up)
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Old 07-02-2018, 09:42 PM   #66
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Great songs on T2L:

Supremacy
Madness
Panic Station
Prelude/Survival
Animals
Isolated System

Good songs on T2L:

Explorers (but this is the third time in a row they used that Keane melody, see Invincible and GL)

Passable songs on T2L:
Big Freeze
Liquid State
Save Me
Unsustainable

Would rather not hear again:
Follow Me

T2L has a lot of greats, but the lows are just as numerous. Certainly I can enjoy pretty much everything here, but to put it up against OoS or even BH&R, nah, it just doesn't meet the mark.
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Old 07-02-2018, 10:22 PM   #67
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ORIGIN OF SYMMETRY
Great: New Born, Bliss, Space Dementia, Hyper Music, Plug in Baby, Citizen Erased, Micro Cuts
Good: Darkshines, Megalomania
Ok: Screenager, Feeling Good

ABSOLUTION
Great: AP, SS, Hysteria, Blackout, RBS, Endlessly,
Good: TIRO, B&H, ToaDA,
Ok: SfA, TSP, FAWY

BLACK HOLES & REVELATIONS
Great: TaB, MoTP, Assassin, Hoodoo, KOC.
Good: Starlight, SMBH, Soldier's Poem, CoD,
Ok: Invincible, Exo-Politics,

SHOWBIZ
Great: Sunburn, Muscle Museum, Falling Down, Cave, Showbiz
Good: Fillip, Uno, Hate This and i'll Love You
Ok: Escape
Nope: Sober, Overdue

T2L
Great: Animals, IS
Good: Panic Station, Follow Me, Liquid Sate, Uns
Ok: Supremacy, Madness, Survival, Save Me
Nope: Explorers, Big Freeze

THE RESISTANCE
Great: Undisclosed Desires, Exo 1-2-3
Good: Uprising, MK Ultra, IBTY
Ok: USoE, US
Nope: Resistance, Guiding Light

DRONES
Great: Reapers, The Handler
Good: Psycho, Drones
Ok: Dead Inside, Defector, The Globalist
Nope: Mercy, Aftermath, Revolt
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Showbiz:
Great: Showbiz, Sunburn, HTAILY,
Good: Cave, Muscle Museum, Falling Down
Ok/Bad: The rest

OoS:
Great: Micro Cuts, Bliss, Space Dementia, Darkshines, Citizen Erased, Hyper Music
Good: New Born, Megalomania, Plug In Baby
Ok: Screenager, Feeling Good

Absolution:
Great: SS, Endlessly, B&H, Blackout, RBS, FAWY
Good: Hysteria, TIRO, TOADA
Ok: SFA, AP, TSP

BH&R:
Great: MOTP, TaB, KoC, CoD, SMBH, Hoodoo
Good: Starlight, Soldier's Poem, Invincible
Ok: Exo-Politics, Assassin

TR:
Great: Redemption, Undisclosed Desires, Cross-Pollination
Good: Overture, I Belong To You, Unnatural Selection
Ok: MK Ultra, Resistance, Uprising,
Bad: USoE, Guiding Light

Drones:
Great: The Handler, Reapers, Dead Inside
Good: Defector
Ok: Psycho, The Globalist
Bad: Drones, Revolt, Aftermath, Mercy

Edit: Just realised that OoS, Abso and BH&R all had six great songs, three good songs and the rest were ok.
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Old 07-02-2018, 11:15 PM   #69
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Old 08-02-2018, 12:03 AM   #70
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Well I guess I started it so let me hop on the train:

Showbiz:

Great: Showbiz, MM, Sunburn
Good: Fillip, Cave, HTAILY, SS
Meh: The rest

OoS:

Great: Space Dementia, Micro Cuts, Bliss, Hyper Music, Darkshines, Citizen Erased (Futurism)
Good: PiB, New Born, Megalomania
Meh: Screenager, FG

Abso:

Great: AP, TIRO, SS, Hysteria, B&H, TSP, Endlessly (Fury)
Good: SFA, ToaDA, RBS
Meh: FAwY, Blackout,

BHAR:

Great: TaB, Knights, Assassin, MoTP, SMBH, Exo-Politics, CoD (Glorious)
Good: Hoodoo, Starlight, Invincible
Bad: SP

TR:

Great: Uprising, Unnatural Selection, MKU, IBtY, Exo 1-3
Good: UD, Resistance
Bad: GL
Meh: USE

Drones:

Great: The Handler, Dead Inside
Good: Reapers, Psycho, Defector, The Globalist, Mercy
Meh: Aftermath, Drones
Bad: Revolt
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:03 PM   #71
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My last ranking before hearing ST was:

TR
OoS
Drones
BH&R
Abso
T2L
Showbiz

Iím quite certain I prefer ST to T2L...but idk how much farther it goes. Iíve just recently fallen back in love with Abso and BH&R, and havenít listened to Drones in quite a while...so Iím just not sure how I feel anymore.

One thingís certain though. ST is a relief. I may love Drones and enjoy T2L, but they both had some obvious faults that made me wonder if Muse were running out of steam. No such problem with ST.
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Old 12-11-2018, 04:06 AM   #72
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In terms of flow, Drones is my favorite, with The Resistance a close second, and Origin of Symmetry the next best. Drones has such great transitions between songs. The Handler all the way to the ending track, Drones, is all connected. I love it.

The Resistance has an amazing flow as well, Uprising --> Resistance is great as is USoE --> Guiding Light, and of course the full Exogenesis Symphony. I Belong to You works well before Exogenesis too.

Origin of Symmetry has New Born --> Bliss which isn't actually connected but it still works very well, as does Bliss --> Space Dementia --> Hyper Music. Ofc Hyper Music flows directly into Plug In Baby, and Citizen Erased flows directly into Micro Cuts, which are amazing parts. Feeling Good is terrible in between Dark Shines and Megalomania and works better after Micro Cuts IMO (which is what it's like in the original press release, and was like on Spotify until it was edited a couple weeks ago), although still not great, but that's automatically a better placing coz Feeling Good --> Screenager is great. As is Screenager --> Dark Shines --> Megalomania.

But if we're not looking at flow, then I agree that either Absolution or Black Holes and Revelations are the best because of the best individual songs.

Showbiz is just kinda in the middle, it's got amazing individual songs however not quite as great as Abso and BHaR, and it has a great flow, but not quite as great as OoS, TR, or Drones.

My personal favorite is The Resistance, love every song on it and the cohesion is impeccable. Exogenesis: Symphony is the most epic closer ever and I've never got bored of Uprising or any of the other songs. And shut up about Guiding Light it's perfect
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Well I guess I started it so let me hop on the train:
I like how you skipped T2L completely.
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Black Holes Absolution, 2nd Law, Resistance equal first.

Impossible task, as with ranking the best REM or U2 albums. Top class art is beyond rank.(not in the smelly sense, with the exception of Tracy Emins bed).

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