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Old 07-02-2017, 12:46 AM   #8401
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$100 (before fees) seems incredibly expensive for a band that struggled to sell out arenas at $55-65...
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Old 07-02-2017, 01:59 AM   #8402
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$100 (before fees) seems incredibly expensive for a band that struggled to sell out arenas at $55-65...
I think that's just where they are as an act at this point, charging as much as they dare where they can. The South American gigs from 2015 still give me a mucky feeling.

We all love a good moan about sets and filler and whatnot but the seemingly growing money thing's the only one that genuinely doesn't sit well with me.
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:13 AM   #8403
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Amphitheater shows are generally expensive if you want to get close. Even more so with it being a dual-headlining show (although I've seen similar if not more expensive costs for single headliner shows). It's more affordable further back.
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:29 AM   #8404
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Making me worry that any future tour, no matter the production or location is going to be expensive (and have expensive VIP packages to segregate the rich from the devoted fans).
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:38 AM   #8405
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Their tour price increases on average have been standard and nothing extraordinary. VIP packages are a downside if they stick with it with this kind of benefit. But I'm not worried about cost.
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Old 07-02-2017, 02:44 AM   #8406
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Seems like this will be the first US tour I'll have skipped in 13 years. What a joke. Not only do we get inferior setlists in the US, the hardcore fans are at a disadvantage while getting to the barrier versus people who pay double or even triple the costs of the standard pit tickets. People who don't pay but instead queue outside the venue for 10-15 hours will be lucky to get in the second or third row.

This was already annoying as hell on the 360 tour when the barrier wrapped around the entire venue, but an end-stage in a small venue headlining with another big band? It's going to be fucking impossible.

I'll have a better experience watching the VIP's videos on YouTube. I would've thought they'd stop this nonsense after seeing how the VIP barriers were dead while the corners were where the fans went. I mean European crowds have always been more energetic but the crowds didn't change THAT MUCH between T2L/Drones. Whatever, I'll save my money and just fly to the UK and do the 5-6 night residencies instead. It may cost a little more but at least I'll have a good time.

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Old 07-02-2017, 02:52 AM   #8407
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I think that's just where they are as an act at this point, charging as much as they dare where they can. The South American gigs from 2015 still give me a mucky feeling.

We all love a good moan about sets and filler and whatnot but the seemingly growing money thing's the only one that genuinely doesn't sit well with me.
I'm not questioning the obvious and nauseating greed of a band that would charge it's most dedicated fans $400+ to be close to the stage....

I'm questioning the logic of charging so much for these gigs when they skipped most of the country on the cheaper tour because they wouldn't have sold well enough. Are there enough people willing to pay so much more to see them when the album is cold and it's not in conjunction with a fancy stage show?
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Old 07-02-2017, 03:21 AM   #8408
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Seems like this will be the first US tour I'll have skipped in 13 years. What a joke. Not only do we get inferior setlists in the US, the hardcore fans are at a disadvantage while getting to the barrier versus people who pay double or even triple the costs of the standard pit tickets. People who don't pay but instead queue outside the venue for 10-15 hours will be lucky to get in the second or third row.

This was already annoying as hell on the 360 tour when the barrier wrapped around the entire venue, but an end-stage in a small venue headlining with another big band? It's going to be fucking impossible.
unfortunately, with an end stage and the early entry VIP procedure in play -- the moral of the story is: to have a shot at the barrier (or close to it), pay $300+...or have connections.

$100 plus fees for a pit ticket isn't unreasonable with three acts, two of which are either well-known (TSTM) or very well-known. there are lots of hands to feed: the bands, the promoters, the venue, the crews, etc.: they all need a slice of the pie.

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Are there enough people willing to pay so much more to see them when the album is cold and it's not in conjunction with a fancy stage show?
something tells me VIP package sales will be appreciably lower this time around, so there's hope for the hoi polloi...
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Old 07-02-2017, 06:30 AM   #8409
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something tells me VIP package sales will be appreciably lower this time around, so there's hope for the hoi polloi...
Not a lot of hope for the hoi polloi I am afraid, as you have reckoned without the 30STM fans. 30 also sell VIP for shows (including these ones) and their barrier has been available for $$$ since 2010. And in this case you don't need to ask what the artist thinks of that...Adventure, the company that provides these packages, is owned by one Jared Leto.

I loved 30, back when they were a rock band. However these days...they suffered by comparison on the Carnivores Tour with Linkin Park and I've no reason to think it will be different here. As others have said, lets hope Matt doesn't decide that letting the fans sing on the next record is the way to go!!
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Old 07-02-2017, 08:22 AM   #8410
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At least 30 Seconds to Mars' packages have meet and greets, although I've heard that Jared is really nasty in person.
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Old 07-02-2017, 08:23 AM   #8411
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Not a lot of hope for the hoi polloi I am afraid, as you have reckoned without the 30STM fans. 30 also sell VIP for shows (including these ones) and their barrier has been available for $$$ since 2010. And in this case you don't need to ask what the artist thinks of that...Adventure, the company that provides these packages, is owned by one Jared Leto.

I loved 30, back when they were a rock band. However these days...they suffered by comparison on the Carnivores Tour with Linkin Park and I've no reason to think it will be different here. As others have said, lets hope Matt doesn't decide that letting the fans sing on the next record is the way to go!!
Every single time I've seen Matt try to get american audiences to sing anything, it ends pretty embarrassingly, so as much as he probably wants to be more like Jared Leto, it's not happening.
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:24 AM   #8412
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When I met Flea in Budapest he said: "Oh shit" when I said how hard is to get tickets for pretty much any show with touts and ticket prices. He looked like I told him that Santa doesn't exist or something I'm pretty sure 99% of bands have no idea about that
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:53 AM   #8413
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When I met Flea in Budapest he said: "Oh shit" when I said how hard is to get tickets for pretty much any show with touts and ticket prices. He looked like I told him that Santa doesn't exist or something I'm pretty sure 99% of bands have no idea about that
Bit of a big assumption to make from one anecdotal case tho.

Muse absolutely know, there's no way they don't when they'll have had to sign off/donate stuff to that museum thing. Prime example was the petitions to lower the prices for the South American gigs in 2015, they either ignore it or don't care.
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$100 plus fees for a pit ticket isn't unreasonable with three acts, two of which are either well-known (TSTM) or very well-known. there are lots of hands to feed: the bands, the promoters, the venue, the crews, etc.: they all need a slice of the pie.
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Old 07-02-2017, 11:47 AM   #8415
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unfortunately, with an end stage and the early entry VIP procedure in play -- the moral of the story is: to have a shot at the barrier (or close to it), pay $300+...or have connections.
If this is what we have to get used to in the US, they'll be getting used to dead crowds. Doubt I'll even bother going until this policy is gone.

All I can say to other US fans is "you should've complained when it happened on the 360 tour, I told you it was a slippery slope to it happening in small venues/end-stage" and if it weren't so unfortunate, I'd find the women on my Facebook that defended "their right to have VIP early entrance procedures" bitching about it now.
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