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Old 28-06-2005, 01:44 PM   #61
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Oh,Lottie,I know the meaning of the word,I mean what are the characteristics of my way of talking...Just curiosity...
(thank god you didn't put "*sigh*" or something before the Oh, Lottie...i would've though verrry strange things then )

i don't really know any examples or anything....hmmm...difficult
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Old 29-06-2005, 04:18 AM   #62
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"Nobody knows" has been released in Spain last week,everyone says it's amazing.I really want to see it!I see as many Japanese movies as I can^^.
*caution*

"Nobody Knows" is a good movie, but it's depressing.
There are people everywhere in Japan, but it's very easy to feel alone. I don't know why, but people are not interested in people maybe? Just like the title, nobody knows you.
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Old 29-06-2005, 02:40 PM   #63
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hm, I 've got to see it,

though on this site it says it's by Hirokazu Koreeda ?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0408664/

is that the right one (I am getting very confused because of Japanese-English-Russian titles)
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Old 29-06-2005, 04:04 PM   #64
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"Nobody Knows" is a good movie, but it's depressing.
There are people everywhere in Japan, but it's very easy to feel alone. I don't know why, but people are not interested in people maybe? Just like the title, nobody knows you.
Yep,I heard that too,the end is very very depressing.You have to be the one who knows better about it,because you are the only Japanese here.Another very depressing fact is the high suicide rate there.Maybe there are some connection between those two things.Nobody knows you.You are alone.There is a huge pressure about work and competence...

Right,Hyper,that's the movie(at least,the movie I was refering to).

Come on!Come on!This is getting depressing!Let's sing to avoid the sadness!
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Old 29-06-2005, 08:16 PM   #65
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no, but suicide in Japan is just a part of the culture, as I understand it,
it's just simply not a big deal for Japanese, meaning it's not beign frowned upon , so high suicide rate is not because it's depressing to live there, but because it's just another way to die. ???
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Old 30-06-2005, 01:36 PM   #66
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no, but suicide in Japan is just a part of the culture, as I understand it,
it's just simply not a big deal for Japanese, meaning it's not beign frowned upon , so high suicide rate is not because it's depressing to live there, but because it's just another way to die. ???


my town apparantly has the best railway-turn in the country to kill yourself on...lots of people tend to take advantage of that fact

japan=strange

*puts Nobody Knows on her list of movies she still has to see*
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Old 30-06-2005, 09:04 PM   #67
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Hyper: Yes, 'Nobody Knows (Dare mo Shiranai)' is directed by Koreeda, as Dan said.
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Ha ha, Dan (you'll read this in September, I guess?) , I don’t mean to make this thread depressing, but it is a part of Japanese culture as Hyper said. In fact Japanese love the sadness, you probably hear it in J-pop melodies.

Japan was No. 1 in economy in the 80s (call it 'bubble'). Japanese became highly materialistic and spoiled at the time. I think money made people cold as well -‘ No-interests, No-emotion and No-spirit’-was a phenomenon.

This still remains in the culture, which is well presented in ‘Nobody Knows’. Nobody wants to get involved with you-like my friend passed out on the platform during the busy morning rushhour-she woke up few minute later, realized no one helped her. Last time I went back, I had hard time carrying my suitcase down the stairs. As I knew no one was going to help me, I had to bug people, and they helped me unpleasantly. They are generally nicer to the Westerners, but don’t be surprised if you get no help – especially in a big city.

High suicide rate-the economy is bad in Japan now, but people have been saving. As a result, unemployed people (mainly 18-40yrs old) stay home and do nothing. Their parent pays the fee from their savings. No wonder they are depressed.

Sorry, but this is the dark side of Japan. I still feel depressed when I go back. Maybe the combination of florescent lights, concrete and the lack of space. No place to rest without spending money. And everything is expensive!

For the sake of Japanese, I have to tell you good things, too -they are generally kind once you get to know. They are just a little afraid, but serious, hardworking and honest people.
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every country has it's dark sides,i'm just glad i know about japan's dark side

japan is still my country to be, from the sounds of it

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In fact Japanese love the sadness, you probably hear it in J-pop melodies.
see? my kind of country
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Smilie Bright side

I am putting up pics of Shirakawa-gou in Toyama pref.
The historic house is a B & B run by a family and I stayed here.

The photo below is inside of the house. Huge breakfast and a in-house fireplace in the background. You see Dan's favourite Kikkoman, too!



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Old 01-09-2005, 11:31 AM   #71
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I WANT TO GO TO JAPAN!

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I WANT TO GO TO JAPAN!

*most useful post ever*
ME, TOO! *follows Dan*
I miss the food.
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ME, TOO!
I miss the food.
Oh yeah, 何大すきか? わたしが天ぷら大すき。。。

Well, that was about all the japanese I know :P I really have to start studying again......
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ME, TOO! *follows Dan*
I miss the food.
OK,follow me!

*Dan walks till he falls through the window*

Oh,Mariko,after your letter,I want to go to Japan more than eveeeer!
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Old 05-09-2005, 08:27 PM   #75
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-Mariko flies down and catches Dan.


Here, lie-down. I want you to survive, til we go to Japan.

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Oh yeah, 何大すきか? わたしが天ぷら大すき。。。

Well, that was about all the japanese I know :P I really have to start studying again......
Hello smiddel. Another Japan-fan?
Japanese is a hard language to learn, but you know a very useful phrase ... maybe this is all you need!
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