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Old 11-02-2018, 10:18 AM   #1546
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I’ve got a really bad feeling about this song after seeing that very Dig Down/Madness feeling artwork.

I’m imagining a song that sounds like a cross between Madness/Dig Down/Panic Station.

I feel like the band is way too fruit salad nowadays and all their idiotic costume wearing and too much time around Jarrad Leto on that woeful summer amphitheater American tour they did has made them want to make bouncy in your face positive pop music with electronic influences.

Perhaps Drones was a bit like what Linkin Park did with Hunting Party; a heavier album to make the “Do Origin Part Two” crowd happy and now it’s back to the pop crap e.g One More Light.
To be honest, I think you're taking things a little too much out of proportion. I get that DD might have upset you, but objectively speaking their "bouncy pop songs" can still be counted on the fingers of one lone hand (not that DD itself is exaxtly a "bouncy pop song", either).
Also, honestly, if they were to go more poppish across a whole album, who really cares as long as it's going to be good and not meek like DD? Do you want them to churn out heavy styled songs and therefore paradoxically play it safier, even if they don't feel like it, perhaps obtaining "just" an accaptable (like many old fans seem to consider) album like Drones?
I don't care if Matt wears kitschy Gucci bombers (although I have to confess some of his nowaday attitude annoys me a little at times), as long as he makes serious attempts to write quality music, it doesn't matter which genre or style.

EDIT: Oh, and also: that "pop crap" on OML at least came from the band's very heart, and unfortunately it showed for poor Chester Bennington's fate, among other factors.
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:48 AM   #1547
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I'm beginning to think Matt was just taking the piss when he said 'Fury 2.0'
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Old 11-02-2018, 11:55 AM   #1548
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I think he's likely serious, but doesn't quite understand what made the songs connect with fans in the first place anymore.
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:18 PM   #1549
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Come on guys, we haven't heard a single second of the song yet.
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Old 11-02-2018, 12:50 PM   #1550
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I'm beginning to think Matt was just taking the piss when he said 'Fury 2.0'
Nah. After all, he's always been serious when describing songs in the past.
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Old 11-02-2018, 05:41 PM   #1551
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My god the air of pretentiousness here is intoxicating. Whether or not you enjoyed Madness and Dig Down is subjective; but to call them shit and accuse Muse of changing for bigger audiences and dumbing down is just stupid. Madness and Dig Down are both great tracks. I'd rather Muse do what they enjoy than making songs they don't for their core audience. All bands change and adapt and I'm sick of the negativity and whining here. I'd love some heavier stuff too but Muse do most genres they've attempted very well.

And it's both patronising and pretentious to just consider all popular music drivel and think that Muse is falling to a lower level. I mean, first, Dig Down is not a pop track. It's very different to that. I'd still say it sounds very Muse, just more electronic.

I'm excited for Thought Contagion regardless of the genre they're attempting. I'd actually dislike another Absolution because that whole album had a very similar sound and, while my second favourite album, if say it's the most samey, unoriginal, and safe they've done, with each song having that same bass and theme pretty much.
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:19 PM   #1552
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Whether or not you enjoyed Madness and Dig Down is subjective;
Quite right. But you know what's also, subjective?

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but to call them shit... is just stupid.
This

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Madness and Dig Down are both great tracks.
This.

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Muse do most genres they've attempted very well.
And oh look, this as well.

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And it's both patronising and pretentious to just consider all popular music drivel and think that Muse is falling to a lower level. I mean, first, Dig Down is not a pop track. It's very different to that. I'd still say it sounds very Muse, just more electronic.
You know you're basically just addressing one person atm, right? A person who isn't even a regular here. I'm pretty sure most people who have posted in this thread in the last couple of days enjoy quite a bit of pop music.
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:45 PM   #1553
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I was gagging for them to go full Paramore and release some out-and-out, unashamed pop when those original promo photos came out before Dig Down. Kinda feels like we’re heading towards another ‘we don’t really have any direction so we’re just gonna mess about’ case like T2L atm though, hopefully I’m wrong.

The ‘bands evolve, get over it’ argument is often a pretty naive disregard of criticism and doesn’t really work with Muse in the first place imo. Every album from Showbiz to Black Holes evolved massively and, bar the odd case of growing pains (particularly for some of BH&R) were v well received. It’s not like they were one thing for years and then suddenly changed, people just started to feel like there was a dip in the quality and creativity of what they were putting out. Hence why Drones isn’t exactly praised to the moon even though it’s the ‘return to 3-piece rock’ record they talked about for years.

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if say it's the most samey, unoriginal, and safe they've done
I mean, not that I dislike it, but that’s easily Drones.
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I was initially concerned about Thought Contagion being in the same vein s Dig Down aesthetically (even though I like Dig Down), but the last few posts on here have reminded me that it could easily be the same kind of song as Dig Down and still be great. Thanks guys.
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I adore Madness and quite like Dig Down, I'd be happy with another song in a similar vein. I'd actually prefer that over a '2.0' version of a beloved fan favourite, that was my issue with the build up over The Globalist, I (and many others I'm sure) got all hyped up over Matt's CE sequel comments and were somewhat let down with the final result.

Still, always hopeful the new song will be good/great.
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I adore Madness and quite like Dig Down, I'd be happy with another song in a similar vein. I'd actually prefer that over a '2.0' version of a beloved fan favourite, that was my issue with the build up over The Globalist, I (and many others I'm sure) got all hyped up over Matt's CE sequel comments and were somewhat let down with the final result.

Still, always hopeful the new song will be good/great.
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It can't possibly be Madness 3.0 can it?
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I’ve got a really bad feeling about this song after seeing that very Dig Down/Madness feeling artwork.

I’m imagining a song that sounds like a cross between Madness/Dig Down/Panic Station.

I feel like the band is way too fruit salad nowadays and all their idiotic costume wearing and too much time around Jarrad Leto on that woeful summer amphitheater American tour they did has made them want to make bouncy in your face positive pop music with electronic influences.

Perhaps Drones was a bit like what Linkin Park did with Hunting Party; a heavier album to make the “Do Origin Part Two” crowd happy and now it’s back to the pop crap e.g One More Light.
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You know you're basically just addressing one person atm, right? A person who isn't even a regular here. I'm pretty sure most people who have posted in this thread in the last couple of days enjoy quite a bit of pop music.
Yeah one person. Sure.

And I know what I'm saying is subjective, but at least I'm not just attacking my favourite band over every decision they make.
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Yeah one person. Sure.

And I know what I'm saying is subjective, but at least I'm not just attacking my favourite band over every decision they make.
Lurkinglurker was just joking, though.
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‘Attacking’s a bit strong innit
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Yeah one person. Sure.

And I know what I'm saying is subjective, but at least I'm not just attacking my favourite band over every decision they make.
So, fearing that the new song will be Madness 3.0 means they consider all pop music drivel and think it's un-musey? And then a joke. Yeah sorry man, those examples do not prove your point.
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