Go Back   Muse Messageboard > Muse > Other Muse Topics

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
Old 02-02-2011, 02:32 PM   #1
CocoLuvsMuse
Member
 
CocoLuvsMuse's Avatar
 
Join Date: 20 November 2010
Location: England
Age: 21
Question Need help with copyright stuff that I don't understand!

Hey, I'm doing a short powerpoint/movie for a school project and I was hoping that I could use a Muse song in the background I'm not sure about copyright limits to the song (Supermassive Black Hole) though... Do I need to contact Muse requesting permission to use their music, and if so then how can I do this?
Thanks

P.S. If needed I will also ask for the teacher's permission, and I will credit the song and Muse at the end.
CocoLuvsMuse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-02-2011, 02:35 PM   #2
Tjet
Most Annoying Muser 2011, 2015
Sluttiest Muser 2012
Sexiest Male Muser 2013
 
Tjet's Avatar
 
Join Date: 25 December 2008
Age: 26
Facebook icon Tumblr icon
Unless you intend to make any money of off it, I doubt there would be any problems.
__________________
Tjet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2011, 11:25 PM   #3
notsomuch
Muse is in our heart
 
notsomuch's Avatar
 
Join Date: 14 January 2010
Location: Eris
Age: 49
Facebook icon Twitter icon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sippe View Post
Unless you intend to make any money of off it, I doubt there would be any problems.
google Fair Use restrictions (@ least for US);

bigger problem- make sure the sound file attached will play on another computer
__________________
[FONT="Trebuchet MS]
04/10/10 Las Vegas *** 10/23/10 Nassau Coliseum *** 10/24/10 Prudential Center ***
08/03/11 Noblesville *** 08/05/11 Chicago******** Ft Lauderdale 2/22/12 *** Tampa 2/23/12 ***MSG 4/15/12 ** Izod Center 4/19/12[/FONT]
notsomuch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2011, 11:56 PM   #4
Tjet
Most Annoying Muser 2011, 2015
Sluttiest Muser 2012
Sexiest Male Muser 2013
 
Tjet's Avatar
 
Join Date: 25 December 2008
Age: 26
Facebook icon Tumblr icon
Quote:
Originally Posted by notsomuch View Post
google Fair Use restrictions (@ least for US);
Yes, your point?
Quote:
Originally Posted by notsomuch View Post
bigger problem- make sure the sound file attached will play on another computer
What?
__________________
Tjet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-02-2011, 12:02 AM   #5
Tjet
Most Annoying Muser 2011, 2015
Sluttiest Muser 2012
Sexiest Male Muser 2013
 
Tjet's Avatar
 
Join Date: 25 December 2008
Age: 26
Facebook icon Tumblr icon
Fair Use and Teachers

Fair use explicitly allows use of copyrighted materials for educational purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Rather than listing exact limits of fair use, copyright law provides four standards for determination of the fair use exemption:

Purpose of use: Copying and using selected parts of copyrighted works for specific educational purposes qualifies as fair use, especially if the copies are made spontaneously, are used temporarily, and are not part of an anthology.
Nature of the work: For copying paragraphs from a copyrighted source, fair use easily applies. For copying a chapter, fair use may be questionable.
Proportion/extent of the material used: Duplicating excerpts that are short in relation to the entire copyrighted work or segments that do not reflect the "essence" of the work is usually considered fair use.
The effect on marketability: If there will be no reduction in sales because of copying or distribution, the fair use exemption is likely to apply. This is the most important of the four tests for fair use

Fair Use Restrictions for Face-to-Face Teaching: Single copy of up to 10% of a musical composition in print, sound, or multimedia form.


That is, if you can really bother with all that shit. You are using a song in a school video that I'm guessing you're gonna show to like 10-20 people on one occation. The risk of legal actions for using more than 10% of a song is probably as low as getting struck by lightning.
__________________
Tjet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2011, 08:57 PM   #6
Dr Leigh
Bu-bu-bu- whaaa?
 
Dr Leigh's Avatar
 
Join Date: 11 May 2010
Age: 23
I think the better question is is why do you think muse would sue a fan for using a song in the first place? (or the record company)
Dr Leigh is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-02-2011, 08:59 PM   #7
Tjet
Most Annoying Muser 2011, 2015
Sluttiest Muser 2012
Sexiest Male Muser 2013
 
Tjet's Avatar
 
Join Date: 25 December 2008
Age: 26
Facebook icon Tumblr icon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Leigh View Post
I think the better question is is why do you think muse would sue a fan for using a song in the first place? (or the record company)
There would be a lot of reasons for that. Two of the most common would be:

1. If they make money because of it.
2. If they somehow would substantially lower the sales or reputation of the song or the band.
__________________
Tjet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2011, 03:38 AM   #8
Lupus
The Purple Person
 
Lupus's Avatar
 
Join Date: 19 December 2010
Location: Canada
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sippe View Post
There would be a lot of reasons for that. Two of the most common would be:

1. If they make money because of it.
2. If they somehow would substantially lower the sales or reputation of the song or the band.
That's right... they don't know how your going to use it. If any band found out about anyone using their music to their downfall, they wouldn't be impressed. But hey, the chance that they'd be scouring the web just to find you using it for a school project that's likely more of a promotion than anything... next to none.
__________________
People change because they don't want to relive the past every day. No one can help the fact that your preferences don’t change, so don’t blame a band for your misfortune. People have the freedom to change.
“You’re invited to the party, but if you don’t like it, fuck you” -- Dave Grohl
Lupus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2011, 03:35 PM   #9
Lumiere
D1z0r6@n1z3D fün
 
Lumiere's Avatar
 
Join Date: 12 November 2009
Location: Pretending to be Dom's drumsticks.
If you were designing stuff with Muse on it and selling it, that would be illegal.
I've seen quite a few of that out there, I find it personally horrible.

If you just use it in a presentation and if you don't use the whole soundtrack, then it should be fine, right?
Just make sure to credit the band at the end.
That's how I see it.
It makes it more like a publicity as long as you don't make profit on their backs.

Might be repeating some stuff others said... Sorry bout that. :P
__________________

Bday dedic: Starlight; QC, 21st OCT 2010 by Dom. Proud keeper of: Matt's stripped B&W belt with white suspenders. Dom's transparent drumset for the HAARP show and his underwear from the "undisclosed desires" MV. Chris' half jeans/half leather pants and his black coat with red stripes and black buttons.
Lumiere is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2011, 05:58 PM   #10
Tjet
Most Annoying Muser 2011, 2015
Sluttiest Muser 2012
Sexiest Male Muser 2013
 
Tjet's Avatar
 
Join Date: 25 December 2008
Age: 26
Facebook icon Tumblr icon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lumiere View Post
If you were designing stuff with Muse on it and selling it, that would be illegal.
I've seen quite a few of that out there, I find it personally horrible.

If you just use it in a presentation and if you don't use the whole soundtrack, then it should be fine, right?
Just make sure to credit the band at the end.
That's how I see it.
It makes it more like a publicity as long as you don't make profit on their backs.

Might be repeating some stuff others said... Sorry bout that. :P
Repeating exactly what has been said, yes.
__________________
Tjet is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
copyright , legal mumbo-jumbo , muse , school , songs


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:55 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Follow the Muse Messageboard on Twitter!
'Pornogenic' - this refers to pics of Muse (and their crotch regions)