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Old 14-02-2017, 09:43 AM   #7831
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iirc, Madness didn't do that well other than the US? It set some sort of alternative radio longevity record over here.
Certainly, all of its best chart performances are in the United States, and some of its other better numbers appear to be in Canada.

Its definitely the song's strongest territory. Which makes it more surprising that the GuitarCenter LA Mayan thing cut it.
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Not sure Muse's more recent out-and-out pop stuff has been all that well received over here tbh. Madness usually gets muted reactions and UD was one of their biggest flops iirc. Don't think DI did amazing either, could be wrong on that though. Psycho did pretty well for itself, so maybe that's a sign of...something, idk.
Last top 10 single Muse had here was Uprising. Surprisingly Neutron Star Collision nearly made it - got to #11 - while Survival and Madness were top 25, but nothing close since. Tbh I think Survival got a better reaction than Madness at UK T2L shows, although I'm not 100% certain on that.

Its one thing our charts have changed so that streaming is now a big driver and something popular for mass streaming as, say, Drake's One Dance can stay in the charts for about 39 months, despite it being boring, but rock bands haven't really had great single chart success for a few years now.

Certainly at gigs I found Psycho to get a decent reaction, although that bouncy riff kinda helps. Reapers didn't really get as great a one as I thought it would. DI didn't really get a great reaction at my O2 gig - albeit still better than at Glastonbury, when the cheers for the song starting are basically mute judging by the proshot.
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Old 16-02-2017, 05:50 AM   #7832
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Having checked on Wikipedia, I discovered something interesting. Though both Uprising and Madness made it to #1 on the alternative charts and both went 2 Platinum, Uprising also peaked at #37 on the Billboard Hot 100, while Madness only went to #45. So technically, that makes Muse a one-hit wonder in the US.

Man, our country really does suck, doesn't it?
I remember Madness going to number 8 on the iTunes charts when it came out, and it stayed up there for a while. Whatever Billboard put it's "actual" ranking at, it was definitely a huge hit, especially considering how hard it is to have a rock hit anymore (the biggest ones in the past few years have been Imagine Dragons and Twenty One Pilots to my recollection, and I'm not talking about anything from Smoke + Mirrors as far as ID are concerned).

As far as hits in the US, if you don't count Drones, Muse's singles have only been getting more popular with each album. Folks I've talked to generally have no idea what PiB is, nor TiRO and Hysteria for that matter, but a good number of them recognize Starlight and SMBH (and NSC, because Twilight). After that most people are familiar with Uprising (they seem to either know the chorus or the fact that it sounds like the Doctor Who theme), and probably 80% of people know Madness (quite a hook on that thing). Also, when T2L was still new, I remember Panic Station playing on my local alt rock station every time I turned it on for a whole summer (which was most days). I've also heard Resistance on a couple of occasions on that station. Oh, and anyone who played a good bit of guitar hero knows KoC, so that almost makes BH&R their most popular album over here.

I was really disappointed when DI and Mercy barely got any play over here and barely made an impact. In retrospect, as great as those songs were, they didn't have the kind of inescapable hooks that Madness and Uprising had, and since Muse still aren't any kind of a household name in the US (despite the fact that most people know at least one of their songs), people weren't about to stream the new Muse singles over on namesake alone. If Muse want to be as big in America as ID or TOP, they need the next album to have three or four Madness-level tracks, not just a couple of Starlight-level tracks. If they could manage that they'd be huge over here, but until then roughly 1 in 10 people I ask will know who they are.

Whether they get that kind of fame in the US or not, I'll be looking forward to each new record for years to come. They've got my attention for life, and that's all that really matters to me.
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Old 23-03-2017, 11:42 PM   #7833
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MWAH should stay as an intro for Knights. No matter how much I want to hate it, I fucking love it.
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Old 24-03-2017, 11:26 AM   #7834
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The strange thing is that on here I moan about Harmonica being overused but when I go see Muse live I still think it works so well going into KoC. Its weird.

Maybe a different Morricone composition is worth a go.
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Old 24-03-2017, 07:26 PM   #7835
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I think the problem is that it is the closer every single night!

Place it in the middle, or as closer before the encores. Then you know ok, closes the main set. What comes next? Of course change the "encores"
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Old 25-03-2017, 05:06 AM   #7836
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I thought it was rough in the middle of the set, too, which is where I mostly saw it. With each passing tour it feels like there's more and more downtime in between songs, and MWAH just felt like another overlong break in the action.

Not at all controversial: the band needs to tighten up their damn set
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Old 25-03-2017, 07:23 AM   #7837
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I thought it was rough in the middle of the set, too, which is where I mostly saw it. With each passing tour it feels like there's more and more downtime in between songs, and MWAH just felt like another overlong break in the action.

Not at all controversial: the band needs to tighten up their damn set
The difference is though, I don't mind Interlude to Hysteria or MWAH so much as they actually play those. Isolated System, JFK and Drones, fuck off. Drill Sergeant can stay in the occasional rotation, it's so short.
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Old 25-03-2017, 08:03 AM   #7838
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The difference is though, I don't mind Interlude to Hysteria or MWAH so much as they actually play those. Isolated System, JFK and Drones, fuck off. Drill Sergeant can stay in the occasional rotation, it's so short.
Interlude into Hysteria, Prelude into Survival, JFK into Defector, never change this..but they already did!
Isolated system didn't fit into the Drones set, I'd prefer Unsustainable.
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Old 25-03-2017, 09:44 AM   #7839
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Interlude into Hysteria, Prelude into Survival, JFK into Defector, never change this..but they already did!
Isolated system didn't fit into the Drones set, I'd prefer Unsustainable.
Oh yeah I forgot about Prelude to Survival. But that's another one that's actually played, not _playback_.
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It was Prelude into Starlight, wasn't it?

Least that's what happened at the O2. I'm pretty sure Prelude was only played on the Drones Tour. And bizarrely, the bass and drums sounded better for that than for Starlight itself.
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It was Prelude into Starlight, wasn't it?

Least that's what happened at the O2. I'm pretty sure Prelude was only played on the Drones Tour. And bizarrely, the bass and drums sounded better for that than for Starlight itself.
Yes! Into starlight! Imagine being there and getting excited for Survival
I recently watched early performances of Starlight, rocking! Why did they have to make it into a pop-singalong-clapalong-shitty-thing, sorry not sorry.
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Because they became a pop-singalong-clapalong-shitty-thing band.
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Oh yeah I forgot about Prelude to Survival. But that's another one that's actually played, not _playback_.
Prelude isn't playback?
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Prelude isn't playback?
My impression was a mix - strings on playback, with Morgan doing some keyboard things, and then Chris and Dom playing live rhythm section parts over the top.
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My impression was a mix - strings on playback, with Morgan doing some keyboard things, and then Chris and Dom playing live rhythm section parts over the top.
This

*Inb4 'but Dom plays ontop of Isolated Syst-'* SHUTTTUUUPPP
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