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Old 09-05-2006, 02:17 PM   #46
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Agree. I think people forget the mainstream is enormous and caters for tastes as diverse as Muse, Girls Aloud, Kanye West and Massive Attack, all acts that are wildly different from each other but have wider recognition. I think its a need to be part of some gang, or just a bit of good old fashioned musical-taste snobbishness (is that a word?).



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what I don't get is why do people need to be "snobby" about music they listen to? I think being all like "Meh t4ste in Musac is teh r0x0r n urz is teh sux0r, deafth 2 mainsteem musac!!!" is so immature.

I feel like gabbing them and saying "Everyone's got different tastes in music you n00bs!!!!"
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Old 09-05-2006, 02:30 PM   #47
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what I don't get is why do people need to be "snobby" about music they listen to? I think being all like "Meh t4ste in Musac is teh r0x0r n urz is teh sux0r, deafth 2 mainsteem musac!!!" is so immature.

I feel like gabbing them and saying "Everyone's got different tastes in music you n00bs!!!!"
They certainly need a good slapping. I mean, so what if something is mainstream? It pisses me off when people only seem to have ears for a particular style or scene and think listening to anything out of that scene is heresy because they think it's uncool. It's like living in a cave.

*looks for such people to have a good scrap with...or maybe not.*
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Old 09-05-2006, 03:52 PM   #48
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what's S&M?
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Old 09-05-2006, 03:53 PM   #49
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what's S&M?
A BMX company from Sheffield
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Old 09-05-2006, 08:32 PM   #50
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as a result of scratching my head while pondering on your theory i have come the a conclusion:

my hair needs washing:supertong
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Old 09-05-2006, 08:47 PM   #51
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:35 AM   #52
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It is different from what they've done before, but to 'lose respect' for them is an over reaction.
i guess your're right there lol i was in a shitty mood last night
(but that doesn't mean what i said i didn't mean)
and btw when i said different i meant unique, different from other bands.
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Old 10-05-2006, 01:10 PM   #53
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i guess your're right there lol i was in a shitty mood last night
(but that doesn't mean what i said i didn't mean) .
Don't worry. I wasn't slating your opinion, or anything, just the lose respect thing got to me. It seems that in 'real life' (i.e. outside this messageboard where I admittedly spend a lot more of my time) everybody I've spoken to about it love it. Even if they're not Muse fans, which is quite a feat, including my Bez-dancing type disco-loon friend. But this board is full of negative opinions ("He doesn't sound like he's in pain! He doesn't sound like he's being drowned while simultaneously getting caught in his fly!I hate it!" type stuff ), and I saw your post and snapped a bit. Sorry.

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and btw when i said different i meant unique, different from other bands.
Yes, but on the same point, how many bands radically change their sound for a single. I still think they have a unique edge - live, they're untouchable, and now they can actually live up to the 'unpredictable' tag.

It's a risky move, but I think it will pay off drawing in new fans. And I like it, so I'm obviously going to stick up for it!
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Old 10-05-2006, 01:46 PM   #54
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Ok guys, how about actually listening to the lyrics;
Glaciers melting in the dead of night, and the superstar sucked into the supermassive (black hole);
isnt this just about global warming n how everything in the universe is gradually being pulled into black holes??? ...or is that just a bit too obvious?? Apocalypse Please!!!
I am liking the S&M thoery tho, impressive, wouldn't have come up with that one just from listening to the song, fits in with the 1st few lines of the song tho.
I also agree with whoever said that the person who's post that was spent faaarrrr 2much time on that,i think uve got some matt/bondage fantasies going on in that head of urs.
Love the song though, different but funky n matts voice sounds very sexy, again. Cant wait for the album to be released
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:25 PM   #55
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hum... ok.
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:27 PM   #56
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agreed - said that on page 1 with S&M used as metaphor.

The earth could be what is suffering, we are punishing ourselves etc. for simple pleasures and destroying the world. That said, the queen telling the truth is hard to make fit which brings you back to the S&M/whore theory.

Glaciers melting is itself a metaphor for slow but unstoppable change, even in a "dead night" they are melting. One can also see Glaciers melting due to the "massive" heat of a NY night club.

Another thought - Glaciers could refer to the NY night sky, ever been to NY in the oppressive heat of the summer? The massive glass and concrete skyscrapers suck up the heat of the day and you are dripping with sweat just walking a block.
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:37 PM   #57
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.agreed - said that on page 1 with S&M used as metaphor.
Glaciers could refer to the NY night sky, ever been to NY in the oppressive heat of the summer? The massive glass and concrete skyscrapers suck up the heat of the day and you are dripping with sweat just walking a block.
True...
You're dripping with sweat the minute you step out outside that's why every block or so we go into a store just to cool down
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:40 PM   #58
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I'll keep this in this song theory thread. Just read about something called the Glacier Principle by a wilderness author called Rick Bass. And we all know that Matt goes on about the oil crash, collecting firewood, survival etc...

This from a Christian web site - it is not a Christian principle, they are using the metaphor too.

http://www.christiancentury.org/article.lasso?id=1195

"Talking at length about the contemplative life under American conditions seems just absurd. It seems such a fragile way of life in this culture of massive technology, arrogant leadership, pushing and shoving, insatiable consumerism. Contemplation? Kingfishers and dragonflies? Stones . . . tumbled over roundy wells? It's so inefficient, so ineffective. (EDIT: religious bit for the atheists to ignore: Yet Jesus tells us to do it this way.)

Rick Bass, a very good writer, is another Montana neighbor of mine. Besides being an excellent writer, Bass is a fervent environmentalist. Environmentalists care deeply about this creation, which is a good thing, but a lot of them are also pretty mean-spirited, angry, even violent—verbally if not physically. Bass is small of stature, elf-like, energetic, and laughing, it seems, most of the time. There's not a polemical bone in his body. He hosts parties for the loggers and the miners, working for common ground, developing a language of courtesy and understanding.

Bass wrote an essay recently that I consider required reading for anyone who cares about the contemplative life, immersed as we are in this impatient, shortcut addictive culture. He writes that when confronted with a complex and difficult task, he used to imagine himself laying down one brick after another, brick by brick by brick, to eventually accomplish his aims. But he's recently changed his metaphor from bricks to glaciers. A glacier is the most powerful force the world has ever seen. Literally nothing can stop a glacier.

A glacier is formed by the falling of snow that collects over a period of time. As the snow deepens, the weight compresses, ice forms, then more snow, then more ice, year after year— and nothing happens. Nothing happens until that glacier is 64-feet thick. Then it starts to move and nothing can stop it.

Bass notes that one theory about the origin of glaciers is that they are "the result of a wobble, a hitch, in the earth's rotation. . . . Glaciers get built or not built, simply, miraculously, because the earth is canting a single one-trillionth of a degree in this direction for a long period of time, rather than in that direction." And then this comment: "When I am alone in the woods, and the struggle seems insignificant or futile, or when I am in a public meeting and am being kicked all over the place, I tell myself that little things matter—and I believe that they do. I believe that even if your heart leans just a few degrees to the left or the right of center, that with enough resolve, which can substitute for mass, and enough time, a wobble will one day begin, and the ice will begin to form, where for a long time previous there might have been none. Keep it up for a lifetime or two or three, and then one day—it must—the ice will begin to slide" (The Roadless Yak, Lyons Press).
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Old 10-05-2006, 02:40 PM   #59
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agreed - said that on page 1 with S&M used as metaphor.
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