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Old 09-07-2016, 11:09 AM   #91
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Honestly, giving it to board members is a stupid idea to begin with, considering this is a forum which scares away a lot of people.
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Old 09-07-2016, 12:57 PM   #92
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Old 09-07-2016, 01:05 PM   #93
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Obviously.
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Old 09-07-2016, 05:36 PM   #94
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Btw, along with letting people vote, Muse need to make sure to announce the winning songs, basically letting casuals know that they should listen to it.
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Old 09-07-2016, 06:18 PM   #95
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Btw, along with letting people vote, Muse need to make sure to announce the winning songs, basically letting casuals know that they should listen to it.
That's a good shout actually, it'll automatically engage people more at the time as well. Instead of just going into a song and leaving people to potentially switch off 'cause they don't know it, they'll hear "this was voted for by our fans etc." and actually think "ooh, okay, what's this".

Could even have some kind of quick visual for it beforehand, a bit like the roulette from the T2L arenas (but...with a point). Maybe some kind of leaderboard or word map with all the songs people had to choose from that shifts and shows what ended up winning. Obvs Muse would know beforehand but it could be a nice little moment of anticipation for anyone who voted.

...or maybe there's a reason I don't work for the visual team and it'd be completely goofy and awkward, who knows
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I meant more like announcing it on FB like they did this time, allowing people to check it out before the gig. But yeah at the gig as well ofc.

Also, goofy and awkward is basically their middle name.
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Old 22-07-2016, 01:16 PM   #97
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I'm no tour manager but something like this would seem fair to me:

4 - UK (1 in Ireland, 1 in Scotland, 2 in England)
4 - US (2 on the west coast, 2 on the east coast)
2 - Australia
1 - France
1 - Italy
1 - Germany
1 - Sweden
1 - Finland
1 - Japan

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Fixed it, not because I'm biased, but because Nosturi in Helsinki or Pakkahuone in Tampere would be easily big enough for Muse. I think both of them have capacity of 1000+, Pakkahuone is like 1200(+450 or something like that if needed), I think. I mean, hell, bands like Nightwish and Mew have played in these clubs, so Muse is not a huge step upward from the caliber they've already seen.
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Old 23-07-2016, 11:39 AM   #98
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I'm no tour manager but something like this would seem fair to me:

5 - UK (1 in Ireland, 1 in Scotland, 2 in England, 1 in Wales)
4 - US (2 on the west coast, 2 on the east coast)
2 - Australia
1 - France
1 - Italy
1 - Germany
1 - Sweden
1 - Finland
1 - Japan

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Fixed again
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Let's just insert every country and spare us all the edits.
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10 in Continental Europe (2 France, 2 Germany, 2 Italy, 1 Sweden, 1 Spain, 1 Switzerland, 1 Holland or Belgium)
6 British Isles (Glasgow/Edinburgh, London, North England city of choice, Cardiff, Dublin (Irl), Belfast)
5 USA (I know it's big but still - NYC, LA, Seattle, Boston, Nashville, a middle city of choice)
5 South America (Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Mexico)
2 Canada (Toronto + 1 other)
3 Australia (Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane)
3 Asia (China, Japan, Korea)
1 South Africa


Wildly unfair I guess but I mean, that wouldn't be awful? Too many dates (35) anyway
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Old 23-07-2016, 12:54 PM   #101
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6 UK (... Dublin (Irl) ...
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Nice save.
I remembered as I was typing and didn't wanna go back and change it lol!

Edit: Changed it
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Old 24-07-2016, 03:38 PM   #103
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10 in Continental Europe (2 France, 2 Germany, 2 Italy, 1 Sweden, 1 Spain, 1 Switzerland, 1 Holland or Belgium)
6 British Isles (Glasgow/Edinburgh, London, North England city of choice, Cardiff, Dublin (Irl), Belfast)
5 USA (I know it's big but still - NYC, LA, Seattle, Boston, Nashville, a middle city of choice)
5 South America (Brazil, Chile, Argentina, Mexico)
2 Canada (Toronto + 1 other)
3 Australia (Melbourne, Sydney, Brisbane)
3 Asia (China, Japan, Korea)
1 South Africa


Wildly unfair I guess but I mean, that wouldn't be awful? Too many dates (35) anyway
I've completely converted to the opinion that this would be awful. It's wildly unfair, and there's no good solution.

There is no small tour they can do in the US and be fair. The Drones tour had 17 US dates and still excluded huge parts of the nation and I'm not talking wastelands here, I'm talking major cities. A 5-date tour here would be a nightmare -- just using the cities you chose as a personal example, none of those cities are within 500 miles of me.

If this were to happen, it would make more sense for me to fly to the UK and see a handful of shows than to try to see 2 here. How screwed up is that?
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And this is the problem with a club tour. People will always think it's unfair that they can't go, so Muse would have to end up touring for 5 years to please everyone.

OR people could just understand the implications of a club tour, meaning not everyone is gonna be able to see them. You don't go from stadiums to clubs without leaving a few people out.
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Old 24-07-2016, 09:27 PM   #105
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This is why I don't want a club tour. Just play 1-3 songs aimed at the hardcore audience and acknowledge that we're there and reward them for doing multiple shows.

Though if it were to happen, 5 nights in Los Angeles, 5 nights in New York City, 3 nights in Dallas, 3 in Fargo, 2 nights in Seattle and 2 nights in Orlando would be good enough to cover the United States (and Canada). 3000 capacity venues.

Everyone in the country would be able to either drive or fly out to a gig without spending a thousand dollars in travel expenses and have plenty of opportunity to get multiple tickets.
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