Speculation on future gigs/tours

[Inma Pakara]

Originally Posted by Bailey Essrog

They need a full, year-long break without touring, recording or even thinking about music. Just drop what they're doing and go get a fucking life.

This.

Also, with the not-playing-Showbiz-stuff, if I recall correctly, Chris said once (and quite a while ago now) that they hardly ever listened to Showbiz because it was a bit weird for them, they'd grown so much since then, so maybe that has something to do with it. I can look for the interview if need be.

[Dee3Dee]

Originally Posted by Inma Pakara

This.

Also, with the not-playing-Showbiz-stuff, if I recall correctly, Chris said once (and quite a while ago now) that they hardly ever listened to Showbiz because it was a bit weird for them, they'd grown so much since then, so maybe that has something to do with it. I can look for the interview if need be.

Obviously not weird enough to have stopped them from playing Unintended, Cave and Sunburn. Not until recently anyway.

[hipbones]

Originally Posted by Dee3Dee

Matt isn't a pushover. If Dom and Chris object to any decision he makes I'm sure he wouldn't go down without a fight. Dom and Chris probably can't be bothered arguing with him, and just go along with the setlists of cheese.

The way I see it is that when people think of Muse they think of Matt. Matt Bellamy is Muse to casual fans...or he's the only one people would recognise of the 3 of them - esp now he's banging KH. Sure Chris and Dom play a huge part but without Matt, who writes the songs (not great songs, but still) etc etc, they are shafted. So yeah, I'd say it is a case of what he says goes most of the time. Less hassle to argue with him I can only presume.

Originally Posted by Dee3Dee

"Half-assed" would be a good way to describe this tour. I wouldn't be surprised if that same mindset carries over to their next tour.

Half assed with ridic excuses.

Originally Posted by Dee3Dee

Damn right it was a joke. And it was a bad one at that.

Management: "Let's let the fans vote for songs this summer!"

Muse: "YEAH!"

*fans vote*

Management: "Oh, they voted for songs that weren't on the last two albums."

Muse: "Fuck the fans, they'll keep paying to see us anyway. They are already butthurt from the screwing we gave them with the Asian setlists. I'm sure they won't feel as much pain if we screw them again."

Management: "Yeah, you're right. Do what you want.... OH! But make sure you make an effort for the last night at Wembley. That should make things alright again!"

Muse: "Fine."

Beautifully written script.

Originally Posted by Museo

No, he is just making sure the bass is firm.

It should be firmly in the back of Matts head for playing such bullshit.

[MattXXI]

[L.]

Hope: that they actually learn some srs lessons from this tour and realised that the priority at a rock gig should be the music and not the light show. It's their past performances on stage (music and energy) that got them to the status of best live act and it's gizmos and special effects that's going to keep them there long term if the music and the performances are average or up and down.

Realistically: they have seen that they can draw in huge crowd and satisfy casual listeners with being a great Muse tribute band and will pursue down the easy road of greatest hits, short setlist and performances that have more up and downs than a yo-yo.

I would love for muse to prove me wrong but I am not a person of faith so I will believe it when I see it.

[OpenMinded]

They won't learn as they probably think tr tour went really well. Watch... They'll just fuck it up more

[Dee3Dee]

Originally Posted by OpenMinded

They won't learn as they probably think tr tour went really well. Watch... They'll just fuck it up more

This is the most realistic expectation to have for the next tour.

And that just makes me very sad.

[Shwissky]

Yea not sure why you guys think they are gonna learn a lesson? They are still selling tickets and getting raving reviews, and until that changes they arnt likely to change.

[hipbones]

Originally Posted by Shwissky

Yea not sure why you guys think they are gonna learn a lesson? They are still selling tickets and getting raving reviews, and until that changes they arnt likely to change.

Innit. They got 2 stars at the o2 last November. Did they give a fuck? No.

[naomithegreat]

i used to be the number one, optimistic person when it came to muse, even when i noticed the setlists getting a bit stupid. THEN i joined the forum, really paid attention, and watched the european gigs. THEN i heard that bullshit excuse about why they don't play MM and i kinda had it with them. yes, i bought tix and still spent money on them, but truth be told, i'm disappointed with them. still love them. but it's kinda like what hipbones said, i'm in love with what they USED to be more than what they are now.

the fact that i accept the fact i won't hear older songs bothers me. i anticipate the new album, but more out of curiosity than excitement. it's gonna take a straight BANGER to make me forget this post and this tour. stripped down sounds good... but i want raw riffs.

idk. i'm torn. i have faith in them because of me being a die hard fan, and this is just honest critique. i'm trying not to bash or rage.

we can speculate on why they do this and that, and why dom and chris don't say shit... but honestly... what they do next year (i'm looking at you, possible lolla gig) and the next album will truly be the answer. unless NME or Kerrang does some deep fucking interview and we hear some truth. (which won't happen...)

[Shwissky]

tbh even if they play lots of old songs next year it wont make a difference. In 2008 they were playing Fury, dead star and space dementia regularly and even bought back megalomania but The Resistance still turned out the way it did, so even if 2011 brings a few suprises dont get your hopes up kids.

[newbliss]

I think the fame has gotten to them. I really hope they turn it around next tour but honestly I doubt it. They wouldn't have let this tour go so shit if they were going to bring a banger next time around. It's just foreshadowing the tough times ahead.

I hope they erased the whole resistance era from their brains and start over. That would be nice.

[wombat_714]

I don't speculate. I think it's a waste of time.

[HenryW7]

If the next album is as bad as the resistance then I honestly think the setlists will go to shit:

from Showbiz we will get nothing
from OoS we will get Plug in Baby and Feeling Good on rotation
From Absolution we will get TIRO and hysteria
From BH&R we will get KoC, SMBH and starlight
From TR we will get Uprising, UD, resistance, USoE
and then 5 sixth album songs, that makes a setlist of 17 songs, so maybe optimistic

So I recon that New Born, Bliss, Citizen Erased, Stockholm Syndrome, Ruled By Secrecy, Butterflies and Hurricanes, Map of the Problematique, Take a Bow, MK Ultra and Unnatural Selection will all become extremely rare...

[Lih]

USoE will almost certainly be dropped I think