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Old 16-03-2017, 11:55 PM   #8791
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It doesn't sound so bad from our end.
Unfortunately the band seems to (admittedly) prefer that sort of crowd, so they'd probably just try extra hard to gain new casuals.
And when they're 50, those aren't going to be casuals that are attracted to experimental or hard rock music...
I think if we feel like they're a U2/Queen tribute band now, age is not going to improve that.
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Old 17-03-2017, 12:18 AM   #8792
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And when they're 50, those aren't going to be casuals that are attracted to experimental or hard rock music...
I think if we feel like they're a U2/Queen tribute band now, age is not going to improve that.
surely the band has done enough by now to fully divest themselves from the U2/queen/RH comparisons? ...or will they always be so shackled?

what's in the cards between now and when they're all 50 (i.e. in the next ten years-ish)? what will they do to further establish/define their legacy -- whatever that turns out to be?

what did drones "say" about the current state of the band? anything? just another isolated benchmark along their creative path?

why am i asking so many questions?
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Old 17-03-2017, 12:23 AM   #8793
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surely the band has done enough by now to fully divest themselves from the U2/queen/RH comparisons? ...or will they always be so shackled?

what's in the cards between now and when they're all 50 (i.e. in the next ten years-ish)? what will they do to further establish/define their legacy -- whatever that turns out to be?

what did drones "say" about the current state of the band? anything? just another isolated benchmark along their creative path?

why am i asking so many questions?
If anything they've become MORE like Queen and U2 as they've "progressed".
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Old 17-03-2017, 01:09 AM   #8794
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Drones the album said they were interested in throwing their old fans a bone, but only so far as promising a "CE II" that was really nothing of the sort, talking extensively about "going back to the basics," and ultimately pretty much just using a riff from '99 as the entire basis for a 5 minute plus song, releasing it as a fan service, and calling it a day.

What Drones the tour told us was that they really, REALLY want to be U2, and old fan heavy favorites like Defector and Reapers didn't really fit that vision.

They know what they're doing, honestly, and the strict cycle is likely a sweet spot where people are willing to throw around $100 at a big ballistic stage show again, while giving the band's people time to put a new window dressing up.
Let's be honest, the money is coming from these gigs, and capitalizing on playing fairly pricy shows in only the regions where they're going to maximize profits.
If this was about the fans they wouldn't skip so many areas, and fans, where they can't support the big show.

I believe they tried to have their cake and eat it too this cycle, sacrificing mainstream popularity of the album's songs to try and appease old fans, while catering gigs to casual fans looking for a visual circus.

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Old 17-03-2017, 07:16 AM   #8795
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I kind of hope for a future scenario where they come full circle and scale down the shows, but in all honesty there is absolutely no precedent to suggest they are going to do that.

As for the music itself, I sort of think it's beyond redemption at this point. That's definitely not to say everything they've release last few years has been poor from top to bottom, but as someone mentioned earlier, even in most of the tracks that garner high praise, there's an unshakable element of cheesiness and bombast that seems to be hard wired into Matts writing at this point.

Part of me wonders what Chris and Dom make of it all, because Dom was talking up the Handler pre album release, which imo is pretty much as close as they've got to so called 'classic' Muse in the last 10 years, whilst Matt was waxing lyrical about The Globalist. Makes you think.
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Old 17-03-2017, 08:47 AM   #8796
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surely the band has done enough by now to fully divest themselves from the U2/queen comparisons?
I dunno, have you heard their last three/four records?
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Old 17-03-2017, 09:28 AM   #8797
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Never forget the extended version of Unnatural Selection .
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Old 17-03-2017, 10:33 AM   #8798
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I don't mind the US extension, even if it is improved without it.
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Old 17-03-2017, 04:01 PM   #8799
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I dunno, have you heard their last three/four records?
no. i'll have to check them out at some point.
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Meh, there's only a couple of good songs across all four to be honest
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Never forget the extended version of Unnatural Selection .
Legit the worst thing they'd ever put to record for me, until Aftermath trundled along.

I'd give them a pat on the back for not putting it on the album, but they still released it
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Never forget the extended version of Unnatural Selection .
lol. i glossed over this.

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Didn't even know this was a thing until now. Far out what were they thinking?
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I haven't heard it in fucking ages so I actually went back and listened. I don't think its terrible, its just doesn't fit in very well with the rest of the song. But my initial thought that its better just going straight from organ to riff remains.

Actually hadn't heard the song in general in a while to boot. Sure the opening riff is New Born with less notes but in general I likey.
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