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Old 12-05-2013, 02:02 PM   #196
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Yeah I just have a cheap one and it works perfectly
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Old 13-05-2013, 07:02 PM   #197
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I finally just figured getting the output going. But jw if you noticed this Dom but there should be one last program change after the verse that puts the whammy back into -1 octave mode toe down so you can play the A string riff without the whammy stuff (during the vocal bit). I'm gonna try to figure it out myself though lol. But basically the whammy is left in the setting it is in at the last whammy bit.
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Old 13-05-2013, 07:05 PM   #198
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it is like that isn't it? On the cover I posted I don't touch the whammy once and goes to the right pitch and all I think
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Old 13-05-2013, 07:46 PM   #199
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it is like that isn't it? On the cover I posted I don't touch the whammy once and goes to the right pitch and all I think
Yeah must be something weird with the whammy conversion. Some times it does it sometimes it doesnt. Also sometimes the whammy turns off at the first 12 - 13 part and doesn't start changing programs til the next one a couple seconds later. But sometimes it starts off perfectly fine.

What position is your whammy in when you click play? Like what setting and toe up toe down? is it turned off?
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Old 13-05-2013, 07:47 PM   #200
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toe down. Doesn't matter whether it's on or off, Logic turns it on/off for me
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Old 13-05-2013, 07:48 PM   #201
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I don't touch the treadle (it can be up or down) or preset knob at all while it's going, since that tends to fuck things up.
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Old 13-05-2013, 07:49 PM   #202
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I don't touch the treadle (it can be up or down) or preset knob at all while it's going, since that tends to fuck things up.
Yeah, I don't think treadle actually matters, but out of habit I leave it toe down. I remember a couple of years ago with the Whammy IV and MOTP that it wouldn't work heel down, dunno why. But yeah, the DAW should do everything
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Old 13-05-2013, 07:53 PM   #203
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Yeah, I don't think treadle actually matters, but out of habit I leave it toe down. I remember a couple of years ago with the Whammy IV and MOTP that it wouldn't work heel down, dunno why. But yeah, the DAW should do everything
It works for me either way. Since the treadle settings are being controlled externally it overrides whatever position the actual treadle is set on.
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Old 13-05-2013, 07:54 PM   #204
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I still get that problem with the 5 in the verse, for some reason sometimes it chooses to ignore the treadle position. Like literally don't know why. Can play it and it'll be fine. Play it again straight after and it's wrong. And it's always the same bit, the rest always works perfectly. Annoying
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Old 13-05-2013, 09:32 PM   #205
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I have a few problems. One it not always going back to toe down -1. And it not starting right where it puts the whammy in the wrong setting or turns it off for the very beginning. And also sometimes when I get the 3fret section of the riff it doesn't sound in tune like treadle isn't mapped all the way down on -1oct. Weird because its three pro lems that don't happen everytime. But I've yet to get a single start to finish playthrough where one of them didn't happen. Its always 1 or more of them going wrong.
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I have a few problems. One it not always going back to toe down -1. And it not starting right where it puts the whammy in the wrong setting or turns it off for the very beginning. And also sometimes when I get the 3fret section of the riff it doesn't sound in tune like treadle isn't mapped all the way down on -1oct. Weird because its three pro lems that don't happen everytime. But I've yet to get a single start to finish playthrough where one of them didn't happen. Its always 1 or more of them going wrong.
Ah. That 3rd fret problem sounds familiar. Is it in the first bit of the verse? I used to get that, same with the 5th fret one I still get. For the life of me could not work out why it did it though. Bucket do you have any of these problems?
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Yeah in the end of the first bit of the verse. It sucks that I can't get a straight playthrough without at least one of these things cropping up. It means if I do a cover ill prob have to record in sections and stitch it together. And if I do a video ill prob just have to mime it or sync the complete playthrough audio to a different time where I just played it and ignored the midi problems. Is it possible to put a bunch of program changes in a row? Because I'm gona try to just insert like 3 of the same in a row so if one gets ignored the other will trigger. Like change 1 change 1 change 1 all in a row in the midi list editor. Would that work?
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Old 14-05-2013, 12:46 AM   #208
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this is the problem im having. its changing modes no problem but the treadle positions just dont want to know. ive run through a cheap midi to usb and now running through an edirol UA25 midi out all from cubase. will hopefully speak to jason baskin in a couple of weeks. ill see if hes ever come across this problem
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will hopefully speak to jason baskin in a couple of weeks
Tell him every time the band is due to play Undisclosed Desires that he should bring out the E shape 7 string and refuse to leave the stage until Matt accepts to play Citizen Erased
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Old 14-05-2013, 05:27 AM   #210
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Found out what my prob was. I guess when you did your whammy 5 to 4 conversion a couple controls got thrown in wrong. cc0 and 32 turning the pedal on and off. For anyone who reads this you can open the midi list editor in your DAW and filter by control and delete the lines. Theres two in the beginning of the drop (0 and 32) and at the end of the verse both again.
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