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View Poll Results: What is your favourite track on Drones?
Dead Inside 14 2.78%
Drill Sergeant 1 0.20%
Psycho 10 1.99%
Mercy 3 0.60%
Reapers 119 23.66%
The Handler 266 52.88%
JFK 1 0.20%
Defector 36 7.16%
Revolt 4 0.80%
Aftermath 11 2.19%
The Globalist 34 6.76%
Drones 4 0.80%
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:33 PM   #121
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That's the highest I've ever seen someone rank T2L and the lowest for BHaR

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I've always felt BHaR was overhyped a bit. Exo-Politics, MotP, SMBH never really did that much for me, KoC is great live but a bit weak on the album, same with Starlight imo... everyone is entitled to their own opinion though
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Old 04-06-2015, 01:58 PM   #122
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Not going to rate songs out of 10 because I haven't listened to them enough and still yet to listen to the album in full without breaks between tracks plus my opinions always change.

Overall I am very happy with this album - I am actually a bit sad that it has blown the 2nd law out of the water for me for now at least and I have zero interest in any of those songs currently and probably for a while which is a shame but probably due to 'last album syndrome' like when you play a pop song form 10 years ago and love it but can't bear to hear the ones that were in the charts last year

Dead inside - always liked this one more than psycho - odd start to the album but very slick and trumps previous songs of it's type like madness and UD for me. 'leave me out in the cold' vocals will always make me shiver

psycho - absolutely knocked my socks off live, best sing along of a riff of my life - find the track itself gets a bit boring after a while but cannot wait to see it again live

Mercy - probably one of my least favourites. It's nice, very catchy, probably good fun live but nothing special, doesn't give me ermagawd emotions and it is very similar to starlight and could easily fall into a trilogy of error...

Reapers - currently I like the handler more than this track but I think over time it will change as reapers is so incredibly perfect - like oh my it's old school muse down to a T. It's exciting it's sexy and again it was BADASS LIVE

The Handler - ok so for the first time in my life I welled up listening to a muse song for the first time and it was surprisingly this one and not aftermath (which is more my kind of thing fabri pls explorers 4 lyfe <3) It's amazing. My new Hysteria. I loved it 100% from the first listen to hats off to you again Bellamy!

Defector - wasn't that fussed about this one at first but after hearing the JFK transition and outro it's pretty super. Love the riff, again going to be massive live, and can never get too much queeny vocals!

Revolt - I heard this after reading 'revolting' comments about it which was a shame but I don't think it's that bad - yeh it sounds like it was written for a musical or by Gerard Way but it's not boring, it's fun and weird and it doesnt kill me, I don't think I will skip it

Aftermath - this is so westlife it hurts all it needed was a keychange. Luckily I love westlife so this one is a guilty pleasure gem for me

The Globalist - favourite track on the album. This is the muse I love, its the reason I fell in love with them in the first place the way they can interpret classical music into their songs and make it their own . Yeh it may be branded as a rip off or a mess but I think it's a work of art and it works for me. Love a bit of nimrod choir :P

Drones - not sure how I feel about this one. It's nice that Matt has tried something new and a good end to the album but as a stand alone track it's a bit meh.

overall I think that lyrically muse are pretty crap at concept albums. Matt has hit us over the head with the story line he may as well not bother to explain it in interviews, used the word drones far too many times but on the other hand I think musically they have done a brilliant job and I have never been too fussed about lyrics so I am in conclusion very happy with album seven

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Old 04-06-2015, 02:45 PM   #124
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Lyrically, this is Muse's worst. It's hard to believe that it's the same Matt who wrote these, and those in Ruled by Secrecy and OOS. However, I'm not too fussed by this because Matt is still my favourite vocalist ever, and his delivery makes up for the poor lyrics for me. Also, for the people who were keen on Muse to go for a concept album, well, yeah. If this is what Matt comes up with then I'd rather they didn't. Even the half-arsed concept of TR was nice enough and didn't seem forced. But enough about lyrics and the concept. On to the music:

Dead Inside: As an individual track, I love it. As Tjet mentioned (iirc), it feels like the big brother of Madness. And Madness was great. Muse's pop songs are among my favourite, and DI is definitely the best poppier song on Drones. As an album opener though, it definitely does not stand up against the likes of TaB and NB. Yeah it defines the lyrical tone of the album and sets the scene before Psycho, but still. For this reason, 8/10

Drill Sergeant and Psycho: The riff has always been great, and the development of it in the pre-verse is very Muse-y. The guitar in the verse is also fun. The Drill Sergeant bits are annoying though and the song draaaags. Could've been better if cut shorter. But meh, fun live I suppose. 6/10

Mercy: Piano riff sounds too familiar and border-line cheesy, and the chorus feels lazy. It all seems very safe, and not something new for Muse like their best pop songs- SMBH, UD, Madness. It feels like Starlight's and Follow Me's unsuccessful brother. Still, it's not horrible. 5/10

Reapers: Probably my favourite track on the album. It feels like something Muse would have done in their earlier days, but with all the good things from the newer Muse. The distorted vocals are wonderful and the guitar tone is great. Solo is catchy as hell too, and the transitions work well. 10/10

The Handler: Hell yeah. It's all about the chorus. 9/10

JFK and Defector: There's something about this song that just resonates with me. Whether it's the eerie solo (which is really catchy too), the beefy riff, the cool harmonies that hark back to USoE (and Queen yeah) or the good placements of JFK, or all of them together, I love it. It feels like a natural progression for Muse, but also feels like something that could have been done in the Absolution or Black Holes era. Shame about the lyrics though. 10/10

Revolt: First impressions were horrible. But it seems to be a grower, as lots of others also seem to be saying. The verses are not bad at all, and the pulsating synth is quite cool. It's just that awful pre-chorus. And the "you can revolt" feels lazy, like Mercy's chorus. The sirens are nasty too. But the guitar is alright and there's some good vocals. Meh. It's still hard to rate this so soon. 6 or 7/10

Aftermath: Nice Gilmour-esque guitar work and chill atmosphere. The guitar develops nicely as the song goes on, and I dig the fuzz that gets added by the last chorus. The vocal interplay in said chorus is also quite nice and something a little different for them. And it comes down nicely right at the end. 8/10

The Globalist: It's no CE2 but it's pretty great man. The heavy part feels the right length, but the tremolo solo could have been longer for sure. The final section maybe could have been a tad shorter. I like the piano work though. Very reminiscent of I Belong to You, NSC and possibly B&H. The strings also blend very effectively with the band throughout the song. 9/10

Drones: Hmm. I respect it more than I enjoy it. It's nice that they've done something they've never done before- like, in hindsight the next logical step after the bombast of Survival and Unsustainable would be to go back to the Middle Ages- and that Matt is doing something other than Queen harmonies (as someone else mentioned). As a closing track though, it is in very tough company with RBS, Megalomania, IS, pretty much all of them in fact. So it was a little disappointing. 5 or 6/10

As a whole, the concept is forced and at times feels like a child could have written the narrative. But musically, it's a step in the right direction, especially with tracks like Reapers, Handler, Defector and Globalist. But there are disappointments and it doesn't even reach the same level as The Resistance for me, despite having some very strong songs. Meh. It has only been like 2 days. Much better than T2L though. A pretty solid 7/10.
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Old 04-06-2015, 03:36 PM   #125
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Dead Inside: 7.5/10 - Not really what I want from Muse, but I've liked this track from the beginning and still do. I enjoy the solo, and Matt's vocals are top notch. I can feel conviction in his voice. I just really wish the album could have opened with something more impactful.

Drill Sergeant + Psycho: 6/10 - Two things really bring down this song: repetition and the drill sergeant. Having to listen to those exchanges always bothers me and immediately takes me out of the song. And yeah, the riff is played way too many times. Should be much shorter.

Mercy: 6.5/10 - Very forgettable, but I find myself enjoying it more than Psycho. I don't like the chorus very much, too many "Mercy!"'s. Though, it is catchy and doesn't have much to dislike. I'm glad there is some heaviness to it.

Reapers: 9/10 - Really pleased with how this song turned out on the album. The main riff has a ton of punch. I enjoy almost every element of the song, and I like the technological feel to it. They successfully brought their live sound into the studio for the outro. Was my favorite song since BH&R other than Exogenesis. Until this next one.

The Handler: 10/10 - After hearing Reapers I didn't know how much better Muse could do at this point. With this song they proved they can still make music as good as the best from any earlier album. This song does not have a single thing lacking for me. I'm surprised so many people feel the bridge is too long. I think the length works perfectly and I love the slow, subtle build of the drums. I can't stop listening to this song. Definitely in my top 10 ever, probably top 5.

JFK + Defector: 8/10 - The JFK interlude works really well, blending the sinister guitar of The Handler before it with the uplifting Defector melody. Defector sounds too good for me to not enjoy it. The guitar and bass are very punchy and the riff is fun. The Queen-style vocals are too much, hopefully will sound better live. I also don't like the vocals or lyrics during the breakdowns. The higher guitar parts are one of my favorite things on the album. The song could be a little less repetitive.

Revolt: 3.5/10 - I just don't understand how a song that sounds like this could make it onto the album. The verses and guitar solo have grown on me, so that brings it up to a 4. But my god, the pre-chorus is the single worst thing I've ever heard in a Muse song. It will probably stop me from ever wanting to listen to this. It's a shame that The Handler has to share such embarrassing company.

Aftermath: 7/10 - This song is hard to rate. It has parts I really enjoy and parts that are just too cheesy. The chorus and ending sound like they should be in a Disney movie. I really like the guitar bits and some of the vocals, there is some beauty there.

The Globalist: 8/10 - This is overall a good song, but a major disappointment, and not just because it was hyped as Citizen Erased's sequel. I love the first two thirds of the song. The slide guitar section is new for a Muse song and works really well. I wish more had been done with the main riff in the middle. The piano ballad at the end brings the whole song down and is far too long. My biggest disappointment in the whole song, however, is that they made one of the best parts ever in a Muse song when that Egyptian-sounding riff kicks in... but it only lasts like 15 seconds. Not even a single repetition. Then disjointedly goes into the tinkly piano. Come on Muse.

Drones: 4.5/10 - Vocally impressive, but just doesn't really work on a rock album. There is too much going on throughout the entire song for my ears. The worst of any of Muse's closers by a long shot. The last 3 songs of the album all have parts that feel churchy to me, and I really don't like to hear that on a Muse album. Or in general really. Just makes for some boring music.

Overall: 7/10 - Drones comfortably sits at 4th for me.

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Old 04-06-2015, 04:25 PM   #126
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1) Dead Inside
Not a great opener for an album that's supposed to be a different direction, as this would sit perfectly on T2L. 3/10

3) Pyscho
The riff we've all loved forever makes this an instant winner. It's heavy, Matt sounds great in the verses and after DI it sounds even better. Dragged down a little by the Sergeant and it's longer than it needs to be.7.5/10

4) Mercy
Not a big fan. Too much Starlight going on here and not a lot else. 5/10

5) Reapers
The best Muse song since Knights of Cydonia. It's lively, catchy, full of awesome riffs and Matt's best solo ever, along with the type of heavy outtro Muse should be doing more often. 9.5/10

6) The Handler
I don't love it as much as many on here, but it's still amazing and would sit well on Absolution. That's the highest praise I can give it. I love the last 30 seconds, although the solo leading up to it is a bit too In Your World. 8/10

(7) JFK
I ignored Drill Sergeant, but I'm gonna add this one in just to say I love the foreboding tone of the guitars and how it leads into Defector and mirrors its solo. The guitars almost lead you on to believe something truly epic is coming up. But instead it's only...

8) Defector
A good, solid Muse track, although the chorus gets repetitive and annoying. My favourite part is actually that 'swirly' bit of guitar (could be synth for all I know) at the end over JFK. It sounds GREAT. 7/10

9) Revolt
I don't quite get the hate, it's not down in the cesspit with the likes of Guiding Light . It's got a nice tone and solo but does feel cheesey overall. 6/10

10) Aftermath
A lovey-dovey ballad, not my cup of tea.5.5/10

11) The Globalist
Can't help but feel this is a massive opportunity missed. A chance for a true prog rock masterpiece. It has all the correct ingredients, but they're massively used in the wrong amounts. One of the best metal riffs they've ever done ends up lost in a sea of 'meh'. There's nothing wrong with the first third, leading up to the riff (it's brilliant at times), but it's what comes after that is the main issue here. It doesn't fit the rest and the riff should come back even heavier and longer for a second period to end the track. 6.5/10

12) Drones
Never expected to finish a Muse album feeling like I'm in a church. Not really a credible track that requires a rating.
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Old 04-06-2015, 04:26 PM   #127
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Dead Inside

The start of the album. The statement of the first words you hear: DEAD INSIDE is so damn good. Its like he is screaming out that we are all dead inside, it really grabs your attention. The beat kicks in and the dark bass drives the song. A strong start to the album and it makes a bold statement.

Score: 8.5/10
[Drill Sergeant] + Psycho

It might be me, but the strum in [DS] is repeated at the start of Psycho which really bugged me so I immediately stopped the album and changed it; minus 1 point right from the start. Rather repetitive, feels (in retrospect) like a filler song. They needed to have something for the story and just came up with this. Otherwise it rocks hard and sounds great live. I could do without the Sargent during the song though.

Score: 7/10
Mercy

First poppy sounding song. The piano riff bears strong similarity and gives me feelings similar to Starlight. His voice here, as well as Dead Inside is on point. The bass drives and the melodic style is catchy, very reminiscent of Sing For Absolution. A solid song and the first one that seems very personal to the protagonist.

Score: 8/10
Reapers

Drums kick it off with Matt squealing in with a tapping intro. Bass drops and the fast verse has you tapping your foot to the beat. Then the pre-chorus hits and you can not resist joining in with the "Drones!" and "Killed by!" chants and it soars into the chorus. The solo is a long winding wild ride a must not skip. Ending with the heavy outro with the "Here comes the drones" scream is just epic and perfect. Finally barely audible samples of "Follow the yellow brick road" give an eerie chill as the guitars fade out.

Score: 9.5/10
The Handler

Lately have been starting the album here (I've listened to the front half so much it almost like its not there sometimes). The riff is massive and the vocal delivery again is on point. The chorus is a melodic bass with a soaring vocal crescendo declaring disassociation. The middle does drag a bit longer than I would like but it thematically fits and builds a suspense which is released at the end.

Score: 9.5/10
[JFK] + Defector

Speech is taken from President John F. Kennedy's address at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in NYC on April 27, 1961 to the American Newspaper Publishers Association. Talking about how the press can help make man "free and independent" it mentions nothing of Communism directly but instead of the very essence of what it is to lose freedom. The last line "Its dissenters are silenced, not praised." kick off in Defector which is a headbanging monster. Somewhat repetitive its solo/bridge makes up for it. Lyrics are a bit cheesy but I expect nothing spectacular from Matt. Queen like but tolerable. Probably one of my favorites along with The Handler.

Score: 9/10
Revolt

The next poppy tune off the record and a heavy one as well. Solo is very reminiscent of Guiding Light (yes I went there), but not in a bad way. Personally would love to hear this live, it sounds like a monster. The bass and hooks are just so catchy. Pre-chorus/chorus is a bit weak however yet tolerable. Very sing-a-long like

Score: 7.5/10
Aftermath

I dig this song. When the guitar kicked in and Matt started singing (especially the first chorus) I started crying. No joke, this song is just such a good anthem sounding song. Reviews were right to say it was a cross of a Coca-Cola ad. The progression in the chorus feels very similar to the hymn "Hallelujah." Its just perfect another favorite track, its probably the softest point of the album other than the next two tracks.

Score: 8.5/10
The Globalist

The flow from Aftermath into this one is so great. The whistling starts and when the slide kick in taking its place it just seems to fit. The vocals come in telling a different story, yet it feels so familiar from what we heard so far. Upon being "given the codes" the heavy riff kicks in building as vocal over top drive the tension. It finally snaps when the countdown hits 1 and the command "Fire" is called. The riff explodes open and guitar melody drives the song to a climaxing scream as the piano fades in as the guitar fades away. The story has turned sad and the piano drives the song till its finally notes and slowed down.

Score: 8.5/10
Drones

Again transitioning in this album is rock solid. The line "Killed by drones" fades in from The Globalists violent yet mournful ending as what sounds like a church hymn. I take this as a perspective not from our protagonist but all those who suffered who now sing one last song as their world slow dies from the nuclear destruction that spreads across the land. The protagonist is probably among them (we may be seeing this from a 3rd person view of him) as he watches all the suffering he caused. Such a great and eerie way to end the album.

Score: 8/10
Overall score: 8.4/10

Overall top picks from this album have to be (in track order):
Dead Inside
Reapers
The Handler
JFK + Defector
Aftermath
The Globalist + Drones

Lyrically Matt is as he normally is. The concept is pushed brutally through but I feel the execution across the board makes up for it. The song spreads of Mercy through Defector and Aftermath to Drones is just chilling. The Globalist and Drones should never but not played without each other.

This album cycle has been amazing so far, contesting even BH&R. However BH&R still has the edge for me, vocally and musically but that could change the more I listen. We will see at a later date.

To finish off here is my album order:
BH&R > OoS = Absolution = Drones > TR >> T2L
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Old 04-06-2015, 06:21 PM   #128
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The Handler
Dead Inside
Reapers
The Globalist/Psycho/Defector/Mercy
(don't know how to rank these 4)
The rest are...well...won't say much.
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JFK is the best interlude type track they've ever done.
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this is exactly how I feel about it. Like cool matt you can do middle ages, congrats, but don't do it again
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1. The Globalist
2. Reapers
3. The Handler
4. Revolt
5. Defector
6. Mercy
7. Aftermath
8. Psycho
9. Dead Inside
10. Drones


pretty solid album. Miles ahead of TR and T2L. Not sure if it beats any of the first four though
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JFK is the best interlude type track they've ever done.
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Dead Inside - Ite

Psycho - Overlong wank

Mercy - Starlight wank

Reapers - Actually not wank

The Handler - Also not wank, fair play

Defector - Queen-y wank

Revolt - When performed by the next big teen popstar, amazing. When played by Muse, utter wank

Aftermath - Fairly wank

The Globalist - This is like a sandwich which has two stale, overused, and probably stolen bits of bread with an amazing filling.

Drones - Experimental wanky alrightness

5.528/10
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Here's mine.

Dead Inside - Ite

Psycho - Overlong wank

Mercy - Starlight wank

Reapers - Actually not wank

The Handler - Also not wank, fair play

Defector - Queen-y wank

Revolt - When performed by the next big teen popstar, amazing. When played by Muse, utter wank

Aftermath - Fairly wank

The Globalist - This is like a sandwich which has two stale, overused, and probably stolen bits of bread with an amazing filling.

Drones - Experimental wanky alrightness

5.528/10
that's a lot of wanking
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that's a lot of wanking
too much?

In all seriousness though, they just sound a bit out of ideas to me, musically. There are a couple of really, really good tracks and moments (The Globalist riff is mega), as was the same on T2L and TR, but largely I find most of the tracks a bit uninspired, and definitely lacking in the originality they once had.

But I know a lot of people here like it a lot, so fair enough, whatever floats your boat!
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