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Old 13-03-2015, 09:03 AM   #16
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Can't say I recall any lyrics from the past two albums aside from Uprising, as it was pretty good (and they played the damn thing on the radio thrice daily for months). I could probably recite the entirety of the first 4 albums though.

Psycho sounds promising though, the best shot we'll ever have at an actual rock album from the rock band Muse
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Old 13-03-2015, 11:25 AM   #17
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They're different. What album I listen to can depend on my mood really. Sometimes I feel like listening to 2nd law stuff, sometimes I feel like listening to hullabaloo stuff. Though I'm weird and like songs a lot of Musers seem to hate. *coughisolatedsystemisaworkofartandIactuallylikegu idinglightcough*
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Old 13-03-2015, 10:24 PM   #18
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Yes I agree. But people who aren't huge fans tend to prefer BH&R - whereas bigger fans go back to OoS and Absolution.

I think Dream Theater got better as they went on.
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Old 13-03-2015, 11:44 PM   #19
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Pretty unfair to classify "big fans" based on what albums they like.

Oh, and there's also a lot of tendency towards what album someone started with; my bf's favorite album is TR, and that was his first Muse album.
And because of that, T2L is more along the lines of what "Muse" sounds like to him.
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Old 15-03-2015, 02:02 AM   #20
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Pretty unfair to classify "big fans" based on what albums they like.

Oh, and there's also a lot of tendency towards what album someone started with; my bf's favorite album is TR, and that was his first Muse album.
And because of that, T2L is more along the lines of what "Muse" sounds like to him.
Interesting, my first proper release was BHaR and at the time I loved it. I did the same for both TR and T2L, but the only albums that really stick with me are OoS, Absolution and BHaR. Why? For OoS and Abso they're coherent, there's an overall theme (NOT a concept in terms of a concept album) to both lyrics and musical style. OoS is energetic and deals with space/physics (loosely) and Abso, well abso just sounds fucking huge (it also does well to introduce a dying world, with hints of political intrigue).

Sure BHaR keeps its integrity whilst trying a few new things (SMBH and some space-opera ala KoC), especially so with Hoodoo (jesus fuck, that song!) But after this, the last 2 albums have just felt thrown together. I'm all for experimentation, but when you go from a very emotive and beautiful 12 ish minutes of Exo to the piss-break song (Guiding Light, also my name for Explorers) it just feels, weird. The same is true for T2L, I think the cover art summarises the album well, there's just no connection between it and the music, and the music doesn't feel connected either.

I'm not condemning TR and T2L, they're just not coherent enough. Drones may seem like it will be heavy-handed in its approach, but I think its coherence of musical and lyrical form that will make it better than it's 2 predecessors.

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Old 16-03-2015, 02:57 AM   #21
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Does anyone else feel like the more recent albums are worse than the original albums?
I personally think that the older albums are better than the new ones.
Showbiz was raw but good. Muse peaked on the next 2 albums with fresh sounds. I tell you when I first heard Stockholm Syndrome, it melted my face. CE blew my mind. Mind you, I had not listened to Paranoid Android before this song so I didn't have that coloring my perception. I still feel that albums 2 and 3 represent the creative, striving peak of Muse and everything else has been trying to be "rock stars".

Also I feel that the album 7 related threads are dominated by teens and early 20-somethings that prefer the new style and ridicule the older Musers who prefer the older style.
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Old 16-03-2015, 03:25 AM   #22
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How would Paranoid Android change your opinion of those songs?
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Old 16-03-2015, 03:30 AM   #23
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Also I feel that the album 7 related threads are dominated by teens and early 20-somethings that prefer the new style and ridicule the older Musers who prefer the older style.
Quit being so ageist. So many posts of yours keeps bringing up age as if it's the only way to appreciate music.
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Old 16-03-2015, 03:47 AM   #24
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They're different. What album I listen to can depend on my mood really. Sometimes I feel like listening to 2nd law stuff, sometimes I feel like listening to hullabaloo stuff. Though I'm weird and like songs a lot of Musers seem to hate. *coughisolatedsystemisaworkofartandIactuallylikegu idinglightcough*
isolated systems is one of the best tracks muse ever did. it is absolutely fantastic
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Old 16-03-2015, 08:01 AM   #25
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Showbiz was raw but good. Muse peaked on the next 2 albums with fresh sounds. I tell you when I first heard Stockholm Syndrome, it melted my face. CE blew my mind. Mind you, I had not listened to Paranoid Android before this song so I didn't have that coloring my perception. I still feel that albums 2 and 3 represent the creative, striving peak of Muse and everything else has been trying to be "rock stars".

Also I feel that the album 7 related threads are dominated by teens and early 20-somethings that prefer the new style and ridicule the older Musers who prefer the older style.
The only ridiculing going on here is your constant whinging about age and melodrama.

Thought people got less melodramatic with age, guess not.
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Old 16-03-2015, 08:07 AM   #26
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On the whole I'd say that the earlier albums are better, but as mentioned earlier, Isolated System is one of the best things they've ever done. Same could be said for Exogenesis. Muse are still capable of producing great music.
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Old 16-03-2015, 09:02 PM   #27
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On the whole I'd say that the earlier albums are better, but as mentioned earlier, Isolated System is one of the best things they've ever done. Same could be said for Exogenesis. Muse are still capable of producing great music.
Except Drones is going to be one thick slab of Matt's political derangement. Probably something akin to Roger Water's "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking". That went over well?
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Old 16-03-2015, 09:06 PM   #28
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Showbiz was raw but good. Muse peaked on the next 2 albums with fresh sounds. I tell you when I first heard Stockholm Syndrome, it melted my face. CE blew my mind. Mind you, I had not listened to Paranoid Android before this song so I didn't have that coloring my perception. I still feel that albums 2 and 3 represent the creative, striving peak of Muse and everything else has been trying to be "rock stars".

Also I feel that the album 7 related threads are dominated by teens and early 20-somethings that prefer the new style and ridicule the older Musers who prefer the older style.
You're literally the only person who's been shitting all over other people's opinions lately.

And then you cry like a baby as soon as someone calls you out on it. Are you sure you're over 20?
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You're literally the only person who's been shitting all over other people's opinions lately.

And then you cry like a baby as soon as someone calls you out on it. Are you sure you're over 20?
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I ridicule anyone who acts ridiculous.

If you feel like you're simply not being listened to when you're repeatedly saying the Origin/Absolution era was better, it's because it's the freaking Muse forum. The debate has been run over and over and ground completely into the dust. When I saw this thread title I nearly laughed, it's that ancient a discussion. So bringing up such ideas here, where people are listening to and expecting new material, begs the question as to why you're here.
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