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Old 09-11-2018, 06:02 PM   #4906
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Hardcore fans are the ones that want that signature Muse vibe, imo, the one that is littered across this album.

The Dark Side has it, so does Algorithm and The Void. Less about the genre, more about the tone and vibe.
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:04 PM   #4907
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100%. Experimentation done in all the right ways on this album, a great LP from the opening bass drum of Algorithm to the final wub of The Void. Cracking stuff.
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:08 PM   #4908
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I know the band sometimes like to lurk the board for new releases so, boys, on the minute chance you are - well done, this is some of your best and most creative stuff. Idk where you go from here but Iím on-the-fuck-board.
Ditto.

As a mega fan of both Origin Of Symmetry and The Resistance, I have a huuuuuge crush on Simuation Theory. It feels like Christmas or my birthday or rediscovering Muse just gearing this for the first few times today. Iím floored.
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:23 PM   #4909
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Welp, I finally gathered my thoughts, and posted a review at my blog. Hope it's ok (be gentle, folks!) https://goo.gl/GfNKBQ

Absolutely love it overall, although I can kind of see why it's dividing the fanbase. It's a bit bizarre, but I feel that makes it more wonderful!
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:25 PM   #4910
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This. And Revolt is significantly worse than GUAF. Idk how this isnít a more common opinion.
Agreed.

That doesn't mean I like GUAF, but Revolt is an atrocity.
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:37 PM   #4911
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Okay time for me to actually review this.

Algorithm: Definitely one of the songs Iíll end up listening to the most from this album. Itís enjoyable, but at the same time I feel like Muse didnít really make synthwave their own in this track. Even on T2L when they were all over the place they managed to make every track their own. This feels like a random synthwave song with vocals by Matt. 7.5/10

The Dark Side: Still an enjoyable song. Not among their best, but enjoyable, lovely vocals and a pretty cool alternative version as well. 7/10

Pressure: Still a...fun song. I donít think Iíll listen to it outside of the album much, and it doesnít really do much for me aside from keeping me interested enough not to skip it. 6.5/10

Propaganda: Very cool. Amazing except for the ďpropagandaĒ part which i can live with. I know itís the hook but I feel like itís the least interesting part of the song. The last minute with the altered melody is absolutely brilliant. Oh and great backing vocals, which actually surprised me. 7.5/10

Break It To Me: I really like it at the moment but I feel like Iíll grow tired of it in just a few days. Letís hope Iím wrong though. Lovely vocal melodies from Matt. Sounds very much like ATS-era Linkin Park though so itís not really as ďfuturisticĒ as a lot of people claim imo. 7/10

Something Human: I guess I can stand it on the album. Pretty nice, a little dull but itís not bad. 6/10

Thought Contagion: Definitely works better in the context of the album, which actually makes me like it a little. Still a bit of a dud though with absolutely nothing making it worth actively listening to. 6/10

Get Up And Fight: I actually kinda like it. A lot better than the songs itís being compared to (Revolt, Mercy etc). Nice verses that are actually pretty cool, and the chorus isnít nearly as dull as Mercyís even if I canít put my finger on why. I honestly donít really know why I enjoy this song more. 7/10

Blockades: Hey itís Muse by numbers to the point where it sounds like a parody, but I still like it. I actually had the verse playing in my head while I slept. The rating of this might seem strange but itís honestly the most enjoyable song on the album, even if itís not groundbreaking. 8/10

Dig Down: Just no. 4/10

The Void: I feel like I still havenít listened to this song in the proper setting and should wait before I can listen to it on my own speakers, but I still enjoy it a lot. The acoustic version is maybe a bit better but I donít get people who say it should have been on the album. I totally get why this is on the album and not the piano version. Anyway the acoustic version really brings out Mattís strong, dark voice. Actually got chills hearing it the first time. 8/10

Overall I think this album has some duds that keeps it from being one of their best, and my ratings might lower over time. But fuck it, I still enjoy that they really have it a go at being experimental and trying something new while still creating one of their most coherent albums ever. 7/10
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:41 PM   #4912
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But it's not really dividing the board, apart from a few songs. Which is crazy, because we have this reputation of all longing for "old Muse". Turns out we just wanted them to be authentic.

Anyway, I think it was Jobby who proposed thanking them earlier, and I really think it would be nice if we can somehow show them our appreciation from the Board. Since we've been quite the critical bunch and I doubt they'll have a peek in here to see how we're liking it.
That's what I meant, really. Guess I worded it a bit too dramatically in my original post. It's great to see the overwhelming positivity going round, it's infectious! I couldn't agree more, it's great that the band are being authentic, and that's why I also love ST so much.

Liking this idea of thanking the band too, sounds like a lovely idea!
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:50 PM   #4913
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I'm rather negatively surprised at how many said "fans" on FB are bashing it, mainly because it's not rock enough.
This fanbase, for goodness sake...
i mean you're free to like it or not, but saying its not good just because doesn't sound like old muse or like you said not rock enough is nonsense
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Old 09-11-2018, 06:55 PM   #4914
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I created a thread for thanking Muse here: http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?t=138164

I suck at thread titles, so feel free to suggest anything else in the thread.


Oh, and a video discussion thread: http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?t=138169
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:01 PM   #4915
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Gave it a good few listens whilst at work today. This might be the most 'fun' Muse album. Not the best, but its a weird and wacky blast. Plenty of surprises, but tonally consistent. Possibly the best since Black Holes.

Algorithm: Great opener. Should open the gigs. Dramatic and atmospheric. Sets the tone. Alt version is Matt's latest audition to do a movie soundtrack. Very cinematic, but not tonally right for the actual album.

The Dark Side: Loved this one from the first listen. Runs well off the previous track. Great rhythm and crowd-friendly chorus. Alt version is neat, but its not quite Hyper Chondriac Music.

Pressure: I only wish the chorus was a tad heavier, but I really like everything else. Didn't care for the alt version.

Propaganda: Now things get weird! Wasn't sure at first, but I'm into it now after a few listens. I'm down for the Prince vibes. Alt version doesn't really distinguish itself enough, but nice to have it slightly stripped back.

Break It To Me: Weirder still! Something completely different, but I kinda love the eastern-influences and the Morello-esque bits. Wasn't keen on the alt version.

Something Human: A bit of a comedown after a strong front 5 tracks. Just a bit meh. Weird, almost flatulence based, wubs. The stripped back alt version is an improvement.

Thought Contagion: I quite like the attitude in the verses, but the chorus is a bit meandering, along with generic 'woahs'.

Get Up and Fight: Now, I know this is the whipping boy, but I actually don't mind it! Maybe its the 00's pop punk nostalgia calling to me! Could do without the 'ahs'.

Blockades: Oh my, yes! Deliciously apocalyptic! Love the pace and the 'Maps' drumming. There's a touch of Muse's cover of 'Popcorn' in there. And the drops are just SO MEATY!

Dig Down: Madness 2, but not as good. I'm quite fond of the gospel version though! Love a gospel choir. Reminded me of Tender.

The Void: Was kinda waiting for a crescendo that didn't quite arrive, but I get what they're going for. Moody, atmospheric closer. The acoustic version loses what makes it work.

I was worried in the lead-up to this album that it'd be the first one I genuinely wouldn't like, but I'm pleasantly surprised by how it turn out!
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:02 PM   #4916
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Ehh, those guys aren't ever happy, FB isn't a good gauge.
That's what I was wondering. My only guage is here and reddit (and twitter to an extent) and it seemed to be overwhelmingly positive. To the point where I've wondered if it will be harder to get tix on this tour

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Dig Down > GUAF > Revolt > Aftermath. I actually think DD is alright, and love the gospel version. I HATE Revolt and Aftermath is literally one of the worst songs I've ever heard and I have not listened to it since the week Drones came out. I just want to forget it exists.

Also, I know this q will get buried, but were we supposed to get mp3s with the album preorder? Just wondering because I only got links to the singles and so now I guess I will need to rip the CDs in iTunes to get the rest.
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:05 PM   #4917
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Dig Down > GUAF > Revolt > Aftermath. I actually think DD is alright
Nuclear take: Dig Down is better than Madness.
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:14 PM   #4918
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Okay time for me to actually review this.

Algorithm: Definitely one of the songs Iíll end up listening to the most from this album. Itís enjoyable, but at the same time I feel like Muse didnít really make synthwave their own in this track. Even on T2L when they were all over the place they managed to make every track their own. This feels like a random synthwave song with vocals by Matt. 7.5/10

The Dark Side: Still an enjoyable song. Not among their best, but enjoyable, lovely vocals and a pretty cool alternative version as well. 7/10

Pressure: Still a...fun song. I donít think Iíll listen to it outside of the album much, and it doesnít really do much for me aside from keeping me interested enough not to skip it. 6.5/10

Propaganda: Very cool. Amazing except for the ďpropagandaĒ part which i can live with. I know itís the hook but I feel like itís the least interesting part of the song. The last minute with the altered melody is absolutely brilliant. Oh and great backing vocals, which actually surprised me. 7.5/10

Break It To Me: I really like it at the moment but I feel like Iíll grow tired of it in just a few days. Letís hope Iím wrong though. Lovely vocal melodies from Matt. Sounds very much like ATS-era Linkin Park though so itís not really as ďfuturisticĒ as a lot of people claim imo. 7/10

Something Human: I guess I can stand it on the album. Pretty nice, a little dull but itís not bad. 6/10

Thought Contagion: Definitely works better in the context of the album, which actually makes me like it a little. Still a bit of a dud though with absolutely nothing making it worth actively listening to. 6/10

Get Up And Fight: I actually kinda like it. A lot better than the songs itís being compared to (Revolt, Mercy etc). Nice verses that are actually pretty cool, and the chorus isnít nearly as dull as Mercyís even if I canít put my finger on why. I honestly donít really know why I enjoy this song more. 7/10

Blockades: Hey itís Muse by numbers to the point where it sounds like a parody, but I still like it. I actually had the verse playing in my head while I slept. The rating of this might seem strange but itís honestly the most enjoyable song on the album, even if itís not groundbreaking. 8/10

Dig Down: Just no. 4/10

The Void: I feel like I still havenít listened to this song in the proper setting and should wait before I can listen to it on my own speakers, but I still enjoy it a lot. The acoustic version is maybe a bit better but I donít get people who say it should have been on the album. I totally get why this is on the album and not the piano version. Anyway the acoustic version really brings out Mattís strong, dark voice. Actually got chills hearing it the first time. 8/10

Overall I think this album has some duds that keeps it from being one of their best, and my ratings might lower over time. But fuck it, I still enjoy that they really have it a go at being experimental and trying something new while still creating one of their most coherent albums ever. 7/10
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:36 PM   #4919
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Ouch, only a 77/100 and 7.2/10 on Metacritic. Pretty much aligns with how I feel about this album. It's ok, but nothing special.
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Old 09-11-2018, 07:37 PM   #4920
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Can't blame Muse from trying new things. Sometimes, this worked well (Black Holes & revelations, Resistance), sometimes it worked about ok (Drones). Even 2nd law, which I didn't really like, had a few good songs. Here.. it's the void. Back are the electronic shenanigans from 2nd law, mixed in a more current manner, with the same Muse epic singing. yet, overall result doesn't feel fresh at all. And apart the Dark side maybe, nothing good popped to my hears. Easily the worst album of Muse of all times. Let's hear you in 3 years maybe. Yup, not even wanting to hear that garbage on tour this time (for the first time in almost 2 decades...)
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