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Old 24-03-2018, 11:12 AM   #9106
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Chicago makes sense being they've promised a make up gig for their Lollapalooza set being cancelled last year.

I bet they do both that and LA.
Be cool if they did, but I guess we'll see. I honestly thought Chicago was the likelier due to the whole Lolla Chicago thing, but I suppose LA wouldn't be that surprising.
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What makes you reckon they’ll do both? I’d be surprised tbh. The last 2 were about 6 months apart and in Matt’s interview before La Cigale, he only seemed sure of one more, with a third European one being a maybe.
I kinda want a Europe one given I missed out on both SBE and La Cigale.

Would've happily suggested Saturday before Rock Am Ring/Rock Im Park, but that's the Bottle Rock weekend so maybe not.
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Old 24-03-2018, 11:54 AM   #9107
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I kinda want a Europe one given I missed out on both SBE and La Cigale.
Idk why I want more tbh, my luck’s awful got fucked in both SBE pre-sales and La Cigale, thank god the former had a longer window of time to find another way.

Wondering if it’s worth just showing up and seeing what’s available on the door if all else fails. I remember seeing a few people outside SBE and heard of a few at La Cigale that were told to come back just before the start time but dunno what happened to any of them. Italy’d be a big stretch to hang that hope on though, but Germany might be a bit easier if it’s between those two like I expect.
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Old 24-03-2018, 04:09 PM   #9108
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The US should have a by request gig, also Australia, South America..maybe they'll do more during next years tour, in-between!

Personally I hope for one in Austria, Thought Contagion climbed from No.4 to No.2 last week in the FM4-charts, our alternative radiostation. (this week No.8, but hey...)
If not Austria, then Munich please, or Prague? Close to Austria plz!
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Old 24-03-2018, 05:25 PM   #9109
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Instead of fitting request gigs into every corner of the world they could also just play some of these songs in their normal shows.
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Old 24-03-2018, 06:41 PM   #9110
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Instead of fitting request gigs into every corner of the world they could also just play some of these songs in their normal shows.
If life were a sitcom, I feel like this is where the laugh track would come in. Except the live studio audience is just Matt.
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Old 24-03-2018, 06:46 PM   #9111
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I say both because the US is huge and one isn't enough, and LA is the next logical place because its home.
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Old 24-03-2018, 07:04 PM   #9112
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One's not enough anywhere (although I do find myself with the lols when Jobby talks about driving to Germany for a chance at last minute tickets and I realized they're likely as close to Germany as I am to Chicago, which is only two states away.)

It's just bonkers that they're doing a ton of fan favorite songs for a tiny handful of fans and using it as an excuse to not play ONE of those songs at their actual gigs that more fans have a prayer of going to.
The thought process behind this is more than a bit crazy.
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Old 24-03-2018, 08:15 PM   #9113
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I say both because the US is huge and one isn't enough, and LA is the next logical place because its home.
Tbf they’ve only ever tended to skim the surface when it comes to touring the US anyway so I’m not sure that’s something they’d take into account, and like Serpent says, the difference between one and two gigs when they’re like 1k capacity is pretty miniscule for just about any country’s fanbase.

Not impossible though, I remember they really enjoyed the Mayan and Webster Hall shows so that could encourage them to do 2, I’d just be surprised.

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One's not enough anywhere (although I do find myself with the lols when Jobby talks about driving to Germany for a chance at last minute tickets and I realized they're likely as close to Germany as I am to Chicago, which is only two states away.)
Yeah, it sounds worse than it is haven’t checked the prices but I’m sure I could find something reeeasonably cheap, doubt I’d do it without finding out if other people have had success w/ it first though

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It's just bonkers that they're doing a ton of fan favorite songs for a tiny handful of fans and using it as an excuse to not play ONE of those songs at their actual gigs that more fans have a prayer of going to.
The thought process behind this is more than a bit crazy.
T’is a bit confusing to drive that separation between casual fans and hardcore fans even wider when you want as active an audience as possible like Muse. Makes you worry somewhat for their tours going forward - like, at what point do only a small minority of hardcore fans bother with big gigs at all if they’re told the songs they want are pretty much exclusive to these club/theatre shows? I know some peeps took that step a while ago and the crowd atmosphere’s already taken a hit from it over the years.

Wonder if it’s the first step towards doing that more regular big gig/little gig format on main tours. It’ll probs only be big city stops and way more diluted (maybe picking ~4 of a top 5) but I guess it’d at least bring some form of it to more people.
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Old 24-03-2018, 08:43 PM   #9114
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Transport definitely makes it more difficult outside Europe but anywhere, the demand is so great for these kinds of concerts. Even now for the Drones era there's been like... 3 in mainland Europe, 2 in the US which have also been the only ones outside Europe (maybe we'll throw Zepp in there), and the rest were in the UK (I think one in Ireland?).

One in Australia would be like having 2 in the US. The rest of the American continent nations don't have anything. If Chicago is bad if you're in Florida it's even worse if you're in Chile. There was going to be that one in South America in 2014 that was canceled because Matt's voice was fucked and there was never a makeup.

There's not nearly enough of these shows, but they go on a world tour for a reason. It gives the fans a chance to see the band within reasonable proximity in a capacity that can hopefully fit everyone. It's baffling their attitude is moving towards using the world tour as a promotional tour and using these small sporadic shows as the real fan pleasers. They were really onto something back in 2013. Even a bit in the recent concerts.
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Old 24-03-2018, 08:46 PM   #9115
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Yeah it seems like the obvious solution is to just throw a couple rarities into the regular rotation like we've been saying for years! I don't know why they can't see that.
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And just mix it up and make it interesting too. In the US shows when they put Take A Bow in the middle of the "boring" section it completely changed the flow of the concert to something more energetic. They've become so afraid to loosen up at anything larger than a ~1k venue.

And the more they do what they do at the big concerts the more the audience they pick up will be the kind that don't move. They'll be making their own self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Old 25-03-2018, 12:00 AM   #9117
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I think I'm one of the 2 fans of RHCP on this forum but I think that most bands should structure their sets like them (there's really only one Pearl Jam so that's asking too much). Radiohead rotates as much as RHCP but sometimes their shows are full of hits and sometimes they don't have any so it's not balanced (still MILES better than Muse)

In spoiler there're last 2 setlists. They played 30 different songs in 2 shows, they "somehow" managed to play some new songs, hits, some 35 years old stuff, covers of Iggy Pop and Stevie Wonder and different fan favorites. Setlists are totally different but both have the same "weight" and you can never see those arguments like we have regularly here about which city/country got fleeced

Muse kinda did that during Drones festival tour in 2015 but they stopped completely during the regular tour and I really think that shouldn't be a thing for a high level musicians like them

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Old 25-03-2018, 12:25 AM   #9118
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RHCP are leagues ahead of anyone else when it comes to setlists, I saw them in 2016 and they played 10 different songs for night #2. I don't follow Pearl Jam but i heard they do the same.

Went to 2 Muse shows knowing exactly what i was going to get and it took some of the fun tbh, even though i must say jumping around with drunk brits during Psycho was definitely the best moment i had at a gig. The charm of festivals.
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Most any large rock band is better at putting together a set than Muse is. There's probably a shorter list of bands of the sort Muse haven't been compared to yet.
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I really enjoyed my last gig, but I also got TaB and B&H, there was a stretch of Hysteria/BH/PiB/SS that was stellar, and it was at fucking Red Rocks.
And still, for a lot of the second half of the set, I was enjoying the scenery more than I was paying attention to the gig. I was a little worried that I'd overhyped the venue too much throughout my life, but it was amazing. And even then, we only went to the gig because we happened to be taking vacation there at that time, and only had to leave one day early to get there.

I certainly don't regret going (especially because it was part of a week long vacation that was also amazing and I didn't go just for a gig,) but I also got really lucky with the set... and it still wasn't THAT crazy.
And I can honestly say I don't feel like it would be worth going out of my way to see the band any longer, since they're certainly not going to come to my city.

And that just feels kind of sad, honestly. Hearing them say that gigs aren't for their actual fans who listen to their music and not just the radio, that just seems like, yeah, that's not something you really hear bands say a lot. Not a normal attitude.

And one or two gigs, a couple thousand fans in massive areas aren't going to make up for that. It's insane to think that that's enough for their fans, as if a fraction of them would ever have an opportunity to go to one of them.

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