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Old 08-02-2017, 05:09 PM   #46
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If Muse really wanted to combat touts, they would make these paperless/will call/no name change etc. Instead, there are no restrictions on these tickets and, in fact, Stubhub was getting flooded with listings before these even went on sale.
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I received my code just after 11 a.m. I was also surprised by the amount of seats reserved for VIP.
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:18 PM   #48
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Why wouldn't the touts have just signed up on Mon/Tues as well?
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:20 PM   #49
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Why wouldn't the touts have just signed up on Mon/Tues as well?
I guess you can limit the touts, but completely stopping them is another story.
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:20 PM   #50
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If Muse really wanted to combat touts, they would make these paperless/will call/no name change etc. Instead, there are no restrictions on these tickets and, in fact, Stubhub was getting flooded with listings before these even went on sale.
Can't speak for the other stops, but in NY State there's a law that you can't have paperless and that tickets need to be able to be re-sold/transferrred..
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:31 PM   #52
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If Muse really wanted to combat touts, they would make these paperless/will call/no name change etc. Instead, there are no restrictions on these tickets and, in fact, Stubhub was getting flooded with listings before these even went on sale.
This is exactly it. Needing to pick the tickets up in person is another thing that at least helps a little.
Calling this a .mu presale and then allowing people to sign up after the announcement is beyond poor if they're saying it's because of touts.
Feels like they were trying to push more fans into the incredibly expensive VIP option, honestly, even if that wasn't the intent.

I do want to say, though, that while it came to late for us, the .mu help email was fast, courteous, and helpful. So at least there's that.
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:31 PM   #53
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How long does the presale last? And why are tickets $100?!
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Because people will pay it, sadly.
A ton of those $300 VIP packages have sold, too.

The presale will likely last until sold out, or until the next round tomorrow.
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:51 PM   #55
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I finally got my presale code at about 1:15pm my time. But by the time I went on, I tried to buy tickets and I was only offered 2 sets before the ticketmaster site stated that "they were unable to process my request" Now all I am doing is playing with the reCaptcha "I am not a robot" game over and over again getting nowhere for the NY show. What is going on??!
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I just got my presale code, too. "Legacy" member, and got the code 4 hours after it would have been useful.
fwiw, my non-legacy friend got theirs slightly before me, too.
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:55 PM   #57
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No problem! Appreciate the offer. I am still waiting for my code..haha
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Can't speak for the other stops, but in NY State there's a law that you can't have paperless and that tickets need to be able to be re-sold/transferrred..
Yeah, that's true. I forgot NY thrives off of its secondary ticket sales market. I think when Radiohead played there last year all they could do was delay ticket printing by a few months, but I'm not really sure what purpose that even served. Muse could have still made an exception for that one show. But they didn't. There's absolutely no "tout prevention" going on here whatsoever, just more hoops for fans to jump through to try to get tickets that are priced higher than they've ever been in the US.
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Old 08-02-2017, 05:58 PM   #59
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Because people will pay it, sadly.
A ton of those $300 VIP packages have sold, too.

The presale will likely last until sold out, or until the next round tomorrow.
Yeah, it is insane at the prices. I mentioned that too.

There has been this huge surge of bands doing VIP tickets and especially VIP meet and greets lately. Even all the smaller bands coming to London, ON with ticket prices of $30-40 are doing like $150 VIP packages to meet the band, take a photo, get in early to see them play 2 songs during soundcheck and then get the rail.

It's frustrating for someone like myself who attends a lot of shows and can't afford the VIP all the time. What happened to the days when I was just able to show up early and be first in line to get the rail? Now even if I show up early, I don't know if I am first in line, or behind 50 people who paid for VIP.....not cool...
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It's especially harsh if you don't shell out for VIP and still have to wait in line all day just to be close enough to the stage to see. In the 360 waiting all day got you 2-3 people from the barrier, the last "early entry" gig I went to (I wasn't early entry) on an end stage, I waited 3 or so hours in line (didn't know about the early entry) and I was nearly 10 people back from the stage.

The meet and greet would at least have be something to pay for. The band is really hard to meet in the US anyways.
Sad that they're taking that sort of money, but they can't be arsed to do a meet and greet.
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