Remember when Supermassive Black Hole came out?

[bumpypotato]

Originally Posted by Morinphen

the text I wrote about Jeff Buckley's "Grace", saying how it was "a shitty magnum opus, just like "OK Computer:" I like it but it's booooring!".
Bless.

[dougwalters]

New single is out on muse u tube channel!!

[bumpypotato]

Originally Posted by dougwalters

New single is out on muse u tube channel!!

What? No it isn't.

[i.wish.i.RAWR!]

Originally Posted by dougwalters

New single is out on muse u tube channel!!

Horrible troll attempt.

[bumpypotato]

Originally Posted by i.wish.i.RAWR!

Horrible troll attempt.

Even I didn't fall for it.

[Morinphen]

Originally Posted by bumpypotato

Originally Posted by Kueller917

Why so emoticon? I was in my early teens and not accustomed to "slow" stuff. It was one giant leap from Limp Bizkit to the likes of Riverside or Aereogramme (RIP).

[SerpentSatellite]

SMBH will always be too hard to judge, because I struggle to really percieve it outside of the "twilight" debacle even now...

I still see the horrible movie clips playing behind my eyes when I hear it.

But, I know deep down that it's really not a bad song, and I never thought it was.

Hell, I liked the 2nd Law trailer a great deal. Thought it was a bit cheesy the first time, watched it again and really got what was being said, and thought it was spectacular. Never understood the rage against the "wub wub."

I sing along with Guiding Light when I'm alone, and the lights are off. And only recently (through this message board, mostly) learned that the song, in fact, sucks (who knew!)

Of course, that makes me really concerned about my almost instinctual aversion to Survival right now...

[Static Shadows]

Never understood the SMBH reaction. I remember at the time arguing that it wasn't a huge departure so much as a cooler version of The Groove. And I stand by that.

TIRO I could kind of understand, as it was a bit more of a straightforward, radio-friendly rock song than Muse fans had been used to up to that point. Still a good song though and hardly worth the doom and gloom, or cries of "the end of Muse!" that came with it.

This reaction comes with every album. Would love to have seen Showbiz fans reacting to Bliss or New Born!

Originally Posted by SerpentSatellite

SMBH will always be too hard to judge, because I struggle to really percieve it outside of the "twilight" debacle even now...

I still see the horrible movie clips playing behind my eyes when I hear it.

rage against the "wub wub."

SMBH was before Twilight. I have to admit I'm still not really sure what Twilight is, and I really don't care. Sounds like a series of shit books and a series of shit films which I haven't read or seen, and only really effected (or indeed affected) a tiny proportion of the population who happened to be in their early teens at the time of their release. I'm sorry if you fell into that small category, but feel consoled that almost no one will care about it or really remember it in 5-10 years time. In terms of SMBH, get over it.

"Rage Against the Wub Wub" is a brilliant summary of it. I still hear as much RATM as Dubstep in there, myself. Even if the robot cracks me up. Oddly I disliked the strings at the beginning more. I just found them a bit dull.

[SerpentSatellite]

Originally Posted by Static Shadows

SMBH was before Twilight. I have to admit I'm still not really sure what Twilight is, and I really don't care. Sounds like a series of shit books and a series of shit films which I haven't read or seen, and only really effected (or indeed affected) a tiny proportion of the population who happened to be in their early teens at the time of their release. I'm sorry if you fell into that small category, but feel consoled that almost no one will care about it or really remember it in 5-10 years time. In terms of SMBH, get over it.

"Rage Against the Wub Wub" is a brilliant summary of it. I still hear as much RATM as Dubstep in there, myself. Even if the robot cracks me up. Oddly I disliked the strings at the beginning more. I just found them a bit dull.

Unfortunately, for many people on my side of the world, SMBH wasn't before Twilight, which maybe I should have clarified.
I'll admit to having read the books, but only in a moment of weakness, as I very much - at the time - cared what my friends and coworkers thought, and I didn't want to stand out. I *maybe* would have liked the books - back when I was 13.
We were not 13.

SMBH, and in fact Muse, became really closely associated with Twilight to the extent that they were called a "Twilight band" by pretty much everyone around me, and it was automatically assumed that I was "into that." It really didn't help that I was lying about "sort of liking" the books so I didn't have to bother alienating my friends and bosses.

So yes, it's a personal problem. And one I really learned a lot from, to be honest.
But, it's still hard to separate the two in my head.

(I am really in a seriously odd mood today...)

[Niall]

The difference between Survival and other songs that evoked a strong reactive voice is that previous this was because the songs were so different in terms of genre. People reacted badly to TIRO, SBH, Unsustainable, because they were very different to the Muse they had gotten used to.

Survival is nothing new. There's no new genre included in it. It's just not very good...

[Mr. ORANGE]

Originally Posted by Niall

The difference between Survival and other songs that evoked a strong reactive voice is that previous this was because the songs were so different in terms of genre. People reacted badly to TIRO, SBH, Unsustainable, because they were very different to the Muse they had gotten used to.

Survival is nothing new. There's no new genre included in it. It's just not very good...

Amen to that - I remember hearing Uprising for the first time and I thought it sucked, but now I like it...the same goes to SMBH...But I don't like his singing and the over-hyped backing vocals in Survival - I hope they won't go that way on the rest of the album