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Old 20-02-2018, 09:01 AM   #2086
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But the ‘greatest guy / dead inside’ line is the key line in the whole song, if we’re to go with the Drones narrative. It’s the acceptance the protagonist has been reprogrammed. Tbh, I just love every single thing about Dead Inside. It’s stood up the best of any Drones track and it’s definitely in my top 10 Muse songs.
I agree.

I guess if you don't care at all about the narrative, it'd be a bad lyrics, but if you do, it fits perfectly.
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Old 20-02-2018, 02:22 PM   #2087
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But the ‘greatest guy / dead inside’ line is the key line in the whole song, if we’re to go with the Drones narrative. It’s the acceptance the protagonist has been reprogrammed. Tbh, I just love every single thing about Dead Inside. It’s stood up the best of any Drones track and it’s definitely in my top 10 Muse songs.
Definitely! One of Muse's best pop rock efforts. It's a shame it didn't do as well as other singles like Madness or Starlight, but I guess that can't be helped as it is less accessible, kind of. But it's definitely up there for me. Also one of the few songs in which Matt sounds 100% sincere in the vocal delivery, I've always felt it was a very powerful tune.
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Old 20-02-2018, 05:04 PM   #2088
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But the ‘greatest guy / dead inside’ line is the key line in the whole song, if we’re to go with the Drones narrative. It’s the acceptance the protagonist has been reprogrammed. Tbh, I just love every single thing about Dead Inside. It’s stood up the best of any Drones track and it’s definitely in my top 10 Muse songs.
I agree, that whole segment is fantastic, my sole gripe is the phrasing of "greatest guy" which is nit picky, no doubt. It doesn't make me like the song any less since I've never really listened to Muse for the lyrics anyways.
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Old 20-02-2018, 10:07 PM   #2089
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Old 20-02-2018, 10:57 PM   #2090
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There's not listening to Muse for the lyrics, and struggling to listen to Muse because of the lyrics.
And they've definitely moved into the latter category for me.

Bad lyrics are still part of the song, and I can't really just turn off the language centers of my brain to ignore them.

It is interesting though how my tolerance for shitty political/conspiracy stuff changed so abruptly.
It had been something I could look past for the longest time, like an old uncle telling uncomfortable stories at the holidays, but now it all just feels too real and dangerous, and I can't bring myself to just put up with it.

Haven't listened to Drones since at least September, and I really did love the album initially.
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Old 20-02-2018, 11:26 PM   #2091
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Zedd ft. Matthew Bellamy
Really???
Also, coming alongside the article about getting away from guitar, this was pretty lolsie.

Matt's going to come off like an old fart trying to impress the cool kids.
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Old 20-02-2018, 11:46 PM   #2092
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At the risk of sounding like an old fart, who's Zedd?
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There's not listening to Muse for the lyrics, and struggling to listen to Muse because of the lyrics.
And they've definitely moved into the latter category for me.

Bad lyrics are still part of the song, and I can't really just turn off the language centers of my brain to ignore them.

It is interesting though how my tolerance for shitty political/conspiracy stuff changed so abruptly.
It had been something I could look past for the longest time, like an old uncle telling uncomfortable stories at the holidays, but now it all just feels too real and dangerous, and I can't bring myself to just put up with it.

Haven't listened to Drones since at least September, and I really did love the album initially.
I do wonder if part of that is down to knowing how the idea of conspiracy theories, or certain theories themselves, have been weaponised by some truly nasty fuckers to take away the credibility of their opposition, and which in turn seems to have a destabilising effect on the world around them.

I don't think Drones is that conspiracy heavy, mind. There's bits of it, but I'd say there are certain songs on the Absolution-BHAR-Resistance streak that talk about these constructs more than Drones reads.
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At the risk of sounding like an old fart, who's Zedd?
Here old man, check this out: https://www.google.se/search?q=zedd
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At the risk of sounding like an old fart, who's Zedd?

I do wonder if part of that is down to knowing how the idea of conspiracy theories, or certain theories themselves, have been weaponised by some truly nasty fuckers to take away the credibility of their opposition, and which in turn seems to have a destabilising effect on the world around them.

I don't think Drones is that conspiracy heavy, mind. There's bits of it, but I'd say there are certain songs on the Absolution-BHAR-Resistance streak that talk about these constructs more than Drones reads.
It never seemed as heavy handed on the pre-Resistance stuff, but maybe that's mostly nostalgia. Anger at the government in the face of the Iraq war wasn't misplaced, either.
It was mostly stuff Matt did and said that were a bit eyerolly, but were easier to just ignore when listening to the music.
It was also a time when it was a lot easier for me to just tolerate someone else's insane sounding beliefs, before things got really bad precisely because those types of people weren't taken seriously.

Resistance era stuff got really thick with it, but I disliked the album quite a bit in the first place, and thought the conspiracy stuff helped snuff all the emotion out of the material.

Drones somehow did a good job of being a semi-return to the earlier emotive stuff, while still having the immature "political" lyrics.
It just reminds me too much of all the bullshit going on in the world, much of which I don't have the luxury of just shutting my eyes to, and the tone of it sucks a lot of the enjoyment out of it now.

These two new songs, I just don't know. Even ignoring the rough lyrics, I just can't find anything to connect with in them at all.
I'd honestly struggle to come up with something that I thought was appealing in them.
Just so completely not my thing, I guess.

I also think the vocals in the verses of Thought Contagion are some of the worst Matt's done. Can't quite explain it, but he just sounds terrible to me. Not in a "his voice is going" sort of way, just in the delivery.
The most jarring and unappealing his voice has ever been to me.
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It never seemed as heavy handed on the pre-Resistance stuff
Definitely. Black Holes has plenty of kind of semi-political lyrics, but I always thought there was still enough detachment from the real world for it to not really matter, maybe because it was just of its time too, I suppose. I can listen to Assassin without thinking that Matt is really suggesting people go out and shoot their leaders down, and I don't need to take the lyrics of something like Exo-Politics seriously, while Take A Bow would actually work really well if it was released now.

I do agree that the climate's changed though and I think something of the abstract has been lost from their music as a combination of that and Matt's decreasingly subtle lyrics. There are songs like I Belong To You and Dig Down that I find unlistenable because the lyrics are just bad, but that's a different matter. Like you say, vague or ambiguous political lyrics about conspiracies and 'false beliefs' probably isn't the best thing to do right now. I find it quite off-putting anyway.

It depends on the song though, I guess. I don't mind the occasional song like MK Ultra because I don't really take it seriously, but then there's simpler stuff like Uprising that just feels like there's hardly any depth to it. Maybe it's because I prefer songs that don't really feel like they're referring to a particular time or any political situation, so the lyrics for me would be more abstract. Matt's talked about wanting to make timeless music recently, but unfortunately his lyrics are going the other way. They're becoming more and more derivative of whatever he thinks he's seeing on the news, which lyrically then usually puts me off any band.
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There's not listening to Muse for the lyrics, and struggling to listen to Muse because of the lyrics.
And they've definitely moved into the latter category for me.

Bad lyrics are still part of the song, and I can't really just turn off the language centers of my brain to ignore them.

It is interesting though how my tolerance for shitty political/conspiracy stuff changed so abruptly.
It had been something I could look past for the longest time, like an old uncle telling uncomfortable stories at the holidays, but now it all just feels too real and dangerous, and I can't bring myself to just put up with it.

Haven't listened to Drones since at least September, and I really did love the album initially.
Probably in the same boat. I can skip past poor lyrics aslong as the song sounds good. Not bothered about guitar wankery or how good musically it is, probably why i have enjoyed Muse over the years. I like Matts Voice, and i do like the blend between Rock and pop.

Can relate to thought contagion. From my POV, ive completely switched off from the news recently. Brexit has numbed me, it was a messy referendum and nothing has happened since. Goverment is in a stale chaos,opposition isnt up to much, the third parties are irrelevant. Nothing is happening and both parties are content with everything going tits up for thier own beliefs. Also the news is really grim, so id rather do something else than get angry at a screen.

Everyone is carrying on as normal, and getting angry and upset is just a waste of time. Why put yourself under stress and worrying about the world, when all you can do is influence yourself to become better and happier.
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