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Old 27-07-2016, 02:42 PM   #9676
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it's supposedly like the super distortion, but just voiced in the upper mids instead. I can't say it sounds like that at ALL in the other guitar.

and no idea how they will match, but i guess I'll find out a bit later.

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also, i wanted to put custom hardware on this one, but my shaft was too large.










ended up using these strange ones I found on the shelf. i think they might have been off an old amp or something.
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Old 27-07-2016, 03:14 PM   #9678
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Excite. What's that going in again? I need to buy one and not sell it this time.
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Old 27-07-2016, 03:45 PM   #9679
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Excite. What's that going in again? I need to buy one and not sell it this time.
most likely the rounded MA
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Well... awake at 3am this morning (not unusual) so I decided to finish it.

I didn't finish it.

Always check that your pickup pole piece spacing matches the spacing of the bridge... I got the strings on and saw right away that it was WAY off, and needed standard spaced pickups.

If anyone wants some F-spaced humbuckers for cheap, I don't need these anymore

It's pretty much done other than that. I literally only need to put the new pickups in (actually went for a different neck pickup this time) and drill the holes for the pick guard.
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Old 28-07-2016, 09:35 AM   #9681
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Sad times But the Trembucker only comes in 52mm spacing? Isn't that the point?
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Old 28-07-2016, 09:48 AM   #9682
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Sad times But the Trembucker only comes in 52mm spacing? Isn't that the point?
I thought it was, considering this is a Fender type guitar (as far as I'm aware, even the modern ones need F-spaced pickups). It's not that they aren't aligned, but you have the pole pieces from the pickups going further out on both sides.

But as I said yesterday, as I was putting the graphtech saddles on, I discovered this bridge has a spacing of 2" (rather than 2-1/16" like most modern hardtails)

So it seems that I'll need the standard spaced pickups. I'm not looking forward to rewiring this, but I did do something I shouldn't have done when I was last in there, so I need to correct it anyway.

Either way, looks like it will have to wait until after lunch. Might have it done on Monday, depending when the new pickups are here. I'll get a few pictures up before then - the neck looks lovely, and luckily I didn't drill through the headstock while installing the machine heads.
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as I said before, it's finally done. Just set it up and it plays alright, but could probably still use a tiny bit of work.



the clipping circuit isn't that great. luckily i put it on a push/pull so it's a normal tone control unless it's pulled out.

only other thing is that the action is a bit too low with the saddles cranked up pretty high, but i think that's because of how the bridge is designed. it's about 1.75mm across, and i wouldn't mind getting it closer to 2mm on the wound strings
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Looks great, demos?

Maybe shim the neck and get the saddles up a bit?
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Looks great, demos?

Maybe shim the neck and get the saddles up a bit?
Soon, I'm thinking of changing the clipping circuit to a homemade one.

Any idea about what diodes? This used some 1N34A diodes, but I'm wondering what else I can try.

https://www.instagram.com/p/pPz3PrnUcg/

I think that's a good amount of distortion compared to what I have now, which is barely noticeable.

There's also this version which uses four diodes, which I might have to try as well

http://www.instructables.com/id/Pass...ive-Black-Ice/

And no, that's the opposite of the problem I have. The saddles are raised almost all the way (don't want the screws to come out the other side) but I can only get it up to around 1.75mm across all six strings. That's perfect for the plain strings, but might want to go a bit higher on the wound ones

then again, it's a bridge from a charvel of some sort
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Isn't the 34a a ge diode?

You need to look for diodes with a low forward voltage, typically a ge diode is around 350-500mV, so anything above that is clipped to ground. There are some Schotcky diodes with much lower turn on voltages, which clips more signal, but bear in mind the clipped signal will be of a lower level than the clean. Maybe adding a small step up transistor would help with that.
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from what I read, it is. I'm not sure which ones I bought exactly, but they're NOS, so they must be good

What's this about a step up transistor? Would I be able to use that with the current circuit I have?
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Yeah you can use a step up with any circuit. The fernandes circuit uses one to step up the signal from the pickup to use as a neck pickup.

You need a good ratio, since you're losing 50% of your signal to the clipping diodes.
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Actually... what about adding something to the existing "circuit" that's in there? Sort of like the version 2 that's listed on the second link up there, which uses four diodes.

There were some different wiring options for the black ice module, but I clipped the additional legs off before trying them all So I only have one option now, which is the third most distorted one. I'd rather not pay another $30 for one of these, especially considering I got ten of the diodes for $5 shipped.

Only problem is that space is somewhat limited in that corner of the control cavity, as there's the push/pull, black ice module, and tone cap in the same area. I'm sure some additional diodes will fit, but not sure about anything else.
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Old 31-07-2016, 06:16 PM   #9690
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You could just put some diodes in series? You'd lose some distortion. Parallel some diodes and you may get more distortion? I don't know is the answer.


Edit: did I reply to your PM James? Phone issues.
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