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Old 11-02-2017, 11:10 PM   #7786
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Knights is good, but the studio version pales in comparison to the live one. And no, that's not the case with most Muss songs.
Are Muss a new band, by chance?
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Regarding Knights... I deem it a bombastic "kitsch-y" masterpiece, but I agree that its live versions sound better than the studio one, overall (minus the Queen-like choirs, I'm a sucker for them ). If the rhythmic section in the studio version had a little beefier production, it would have pratically been on par with the live performances.
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Old 11-02-2017, 11:37 PM   #7787
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I like Knights but its a much better song live.
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I find Knights pretty average live tbh, but that might be at least partially due to how overused it's been as a closer. Think I prefer the studio version.
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It might well be to the song's detriment that its become ol' faithful as a closer since its release. On The 2nd Law/Unsustainable tour I thought it made for an interesting and fairly refreshing change to have it early before the piano songs, even if something like Butterflies & Hurricanes or Citizen Erased is a better transition song from the first part of the gig to piano. Certainly, at SBE, when it was in the first 7 songs, I thought it was fucking manic, which may make it my favourite performance. So it was a bit unimaginative that for Drones it reverted to show ender.

Its also probably goes without saying, but Man with a Harmonica is getting overused too. I loved it when it first came out and it sounded great on The Resistance tour, but its overdue that they had an alternative KoC intro, or indeed, just went straight in.
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:00 AM   #7790
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Man with a Harmonica is getting overused too
'Getting' overused? It was at that point by the end of 2011!

Unfortunately, them reverting back to Knights this tour makes me think that we're stuck with it now. I just can't see them being adventurous enough to try out something new for anything more than maybe the odd gig in such an important slot, 'specially with them (or Matt) seemingly becoming more and more conscious of crowd reactions.

Bummer, 'cos it really kills the gigs a bit for me and I usually use it to get out early.
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If Muse were George Lucas they would have put MWAH on the actual album by now. It's really time that they drop it.
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:03 AM   #7792
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If Muse were George Lucas they would have put MWAH on the actual album by now. It's really time that they drop it.
As badly as I want a remaster/reissue, a tiny part of me is genuinely afraid this might happen.
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:13 AM   #7793
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I thought the harmonica was really cool in The Resistance tour. Same with Knights as a whole.
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Old 12-02-2017, 11:28 AM   #7794
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Old 12-02-2017, 11:40 AM   #7795
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'Getting' overused? It was at that point by the end of 2011!

Unfortunately, them reverting back to Knights this tour makes me think that we're stuck with it now. I just can't see them being adventurous enough to try out something new for anything more than maybe the odd gig in such an important slot, 'specially with them (or Matt) seemingly becoming more and more conscious of crowd reactions.

Bummer, 'cos it really kills the gigs a bit for me and I usually use it to get out early.
I really don't understand your point. It's easily their best-known song to mainstream, it's not nearly as bad as what they could do(like, you know, go back to closing with Starlight or hell, even use Uprising as closer). ''It was overused by 2011'', dude, that's just childish. Knights, as a composition is made for being a closer. If you'd want to see something like TaB closing, well, I see your point, but I think the 20,000 other people would rather see it as the first of 3 songs in encore. I'd rather have Knights closing sets with variety setlists than more of absolute disasters like this

http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/muse/2...-5bfe075c.html

And that set is not shit because of Knights.
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It's easily their best-known song to mainstream
It is?
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Old 12-02-2017, 01:06 PM   #7797
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It is?
Well okay, Uprising/KoC/Madness are tied for that.
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Old 12-02-2017, 03:36 PM   #7798
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We Are The Universe is the best song of The Resistance era.

Additionally, it features Muse's best lyrics ever.

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Old 12-02-2017, 06:10 PM   #7799
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How is saying an intro was starting to wear out it's welcome after 3(?) years childish?
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How is saying an intro was starting to wear out it's welcome after 3(?) years childish?
You have to understand they can't do _everything_ like HC fans want, right? Knights is a completely fine closer and besides, most bands have a standard for closer song. It's not like the song they use as closer is the thing that's worst about their set.

Also, you basically ignored the main point of my post.
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