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Old 16-08-2011, 03:10 PM   #1
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Say Something Positive About The Resistance Tour

Okay, so I decided to import this idea from the Songs And Releases thread on the album. Let's face it, the last few years have seen this board give the band a lot of shit for their live performances for various reasons, more than any other group of fans I've ever known to be honest, but I thought with the current cycle of touring less than a fortnight away from ending, it might be a good time to try and reflect on some positive points.

Personally, I think the stage designs this tour have been great. The towers in the arena shows and the pyramid for the stadiums were both great and pushed new boundaries in what the band have attempted in their live shows as a spectacle. I also thought the visuals were better than ever, specifically in Exo Pt 1 on the towers, and also I think TIRO (whichever one had the water rising up the towers with the person trying to swim to the top), and a few others. I also think the band are much better technically as musicians than they ever have been before and you can pick up on that live.

We've also actually seen quite a wide variety of songs played (shocking when you think about it) over the course of the tour. All of TR except Exo 2 and 3 which were only soundchecked, All of OOS in a week or so, Sunburn, Cave, Unintended, Butterflies, Ruled By Secrecy, Take A Bow, Soldier's Poem and obviously all the well known singles. Obviously I know the constant debate about how such a small minority of people have anything other than the staple TR tour setlist has been covered, but I thought that was an interesting point to mention anyway.

Anyway, with enough moaning about song choices, short shows, etc, to fill several books, what have you actually enjoyed about shows in the last few years?
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Old 16-08-2011, 03:23 PM   #2
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The stage designs were (usually) great.

I loved the guitar tones of the tour. (expect some, like Hysteria at Glasto '10)

Some new songs sounded massive live. (for example, Uprising)

The band's weird costumes gave us lots of lols.
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1. Matt's vocals. Great stuff.
2. CE, sounds massive.
3. Piano Cave, mmm <3
4. Unnatural Selection, another live beast.
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Sunburn, Cave, Unintended, Butterflies, Ruled By Secrecy, Take A Bow, Soldier's Poem and obviously all the well known singles.
Do you really consider that a wide variety from a band with 140 songs?
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Old 16-08-2011, 04:07 PM   #5
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The overall sound of the shows is better than on the BH&R tour.

The Resistance has given birth to a number of fantastic live songs - Uprising, Unnatural Selection and MK Ultra.

The stage designs have, indeed, been much cleaner and crisper than the BH&R tour. I loved the towers, stadium and festival setups.

Teignmouth.

Cave.

Unfortunately, for me, there are an equivalent number of downsides that has detracted from these points - MK Ultra and Unnatural Selection have almost disappeared between late last year and this year, certain gigs were hugely unbalanced compared with those preceding and succeeding them, the setups restricted movement and spontenaity, too many riffs and jams, GUIDING LIGHT, setlists not even being varied in terms of order, let alone actual songs, some older songs have lacked punch (Hysteria and Stockholm come to mind), Matt's not playing the New Born intro, they use click tracks for almost every song which makes every performance almost identical and feel less 'live', setlists haven't been appropriately tailored to circumstances (LA Rising), I Belong To You was played only about 3/4 times across the whole tour, the band failed to reproduce Exogenesis live, headline and festival gigs have become one and the same, the band largely ignored last summer's setlist poll, etc etc etc.

Sorry, but it's just true.
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Old 16-08-2011, 04:09 PM   #6
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Do you really consider that a wide variety from a band with 140 songs?
I make it about 100 from Showbiz onwards (99 as I don't count Intro and Interlude but 101 if you do). Out of those 99, 57 are album tracks, and they have, or will have, played 35 of them. Fair enough on those grounds really.

1. Sunburn
2. Cave
3. Unintended
4. New Born
5. Bliss
6. Space Dementia
7. Hyper Music
8. Plug In Baby
9. Citizen Erased
10. Micro Cuts
11. Screenager
12. Darkshines
13. Feeling Good
14. Megalomania
15. Time Is Running Out
16. Stockholm Syndrome
17. Hysteria
18. Butterflies And Hurricanes
19. Ruled By Secrecy
20. Take A Bow
21. Starlight
22. Supermassive Black Hole
23. Map Of The Problematique
24. Soldier's Poem
25. Knights Of Cydonia
26. Uprising
27. Resistance
28. Undisclosed Desires
29. United States Of Eurasia
30. Guiding Light
31. Unnatural Selection
32. MK Ultra
33. I Belong To You
34. Exogenesis Overture
35. Neutron Star Collision

Not including Interlude, Nishe, House Of The Rising Sun intro instrumental, or the possibility of Dead Star at Reading or Leeds...

I think if that list had been shown at the start of the tour, everyone would have said "fair enough, that's not too bad really"...The problem has been the unfair distrubition of said songs.
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Do you really consider that a wide variety from a band with 140 songs?
They don't have anywhere near 140 songs About 103 or so. But your point is still extremely valid.
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I make it about 100 from Showbiz onwards (99 as I don't count Intro and Interlude but 101 if you do). Out of those 99, 57 are album tracks, and they have, or will have, played 35 of them. Fair enough on those grounds really.

1. Sunburn
2. Cave
3. Unintended
4. New Born
5. Bliss
6. Space Dementia
7. Hyper Music
8. Plug In Baby
9. Citizen Erased
10. Micro Cuts
11. Screenager
12. Darkshines
13. Feeling Good
14. Megalomania
15. Time Is Running Out
16. Stockholm Syndrome
17. Hysteria
18. Butterflies And Hurricanes
19. Ruled By Secrecy
20. Take A Bow
21. Starlight
22. Supermassive Black Hole
23. Map Of The Problematique
24. Soldier's Poem
25. Knights Of Cydonia
26. Uprising
27. Resistance
28. Undisclosed Desires
29. United States Of Eurasia
30. Guiding Light
31. Unnatural Selection
32. MK Ultra
33. I Belong To You
34. Exogenesis Overture
35. Neutron Star Collision

Not including Interlude, Nishe, House Of The Rising Sun intro instrumental, or the possibility of Dead Star at Reading or Leeds...

I think if that list had been shown at the start of the tour, everyone would have said "fair enough, that's not too bad really"...The problem has been the unfair distrubition of said songs.
And about 10 of those has been played 1-4 times.
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That's why I said "the problem has been the unfair distribution of those songs"...I'm not defending that side of it that we've all talked about at length with things like that...I just thought it was an interesting point to make that they've actually played 35 of 57 album tracks over the course of the tour. The problem is that 99% of shows have had the same 17, give or take.

I realised I missed Dead Star off the list even though they played it in Japan too, but as it's not an album track, it doesn't change the figure really...But yeah...35 or 36 different songs over a tour. What do you think most bands do? Most bands don't play their b-sides. Most bands play their most well known songs and a mix of new album stuff and a handful of older songs to go with it, and that's basically what Muse have done. I'm not saying it's right, or that I don't want Muse to be as great as we all do, but it's just a point worth making.
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Favourite moment was Unnatural selection live, along with the beef created by this past tour.
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Something positive?

It's finally over.
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That's why I said "the problem has been the unfair distribution of those songs"...I'm not defending that side of it that we've all talked about at length with things like that...I just thought it was an interesting point to make that they've actually played 35 of 57 album tracks over the course of the tour. The problem is that 99% of shows have had the same 17, give or take.

I realised I missed Dead Star off the list even though they played it in Japan too, but as it's not an album track, it doesn't change the figure really...But yeah...35 or 36 different songs over a tour. What do you think most bands do? Most bands don't play their b-sides. Most bands play their most well known songs and a mix of new album stuff and a handful of older songs to go with it, and that's basically what Muse have done. I'm not saying it's right, or that I don't want Muse to be as great as we all do, but it's just a point worth making.
34, NSC isn't an album track

I have been to lots of gigs where rarities and B-sides where played. Not that it proves anything.
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http://www.setlist.fm/stats/average-...nce+World+Tour

Damning.

Really though, it was a clusterfuck of a tour. Incredibly poorly booked and managed.
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That reminds me that I missed We Are The Universe out of my first post. Loved that intro.

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34, NSC isn't an album track

I have been to lots of gigs where rarities and B-sides where played. Not that it proves anything.
Haha, touché, I only threw that one in at the end as I remembered it...

But yeah, I guess it's just worth considering how much shit people here give the band for basically doing what every other band does. I don't know any other band where the fans follow the setlist on twitter, etc, and I guess that's led to equally more moaning than any other band I've known either.

While I agree that I want songs to be more evenly distributed and have a fairer mix of songs between old and knew, light and heavy, popular and rareties, the amount of moaning about the same things over and over is just tiring now. It's their band, and they can do what they want, and play the songs they like.

Their logic, or lack of, baffles me as much as anyone at times, but I thought it was worth pointing at that as much as the hoards of obsessive musers might want the band to suit their own needs, they're basically just doing what almost every other band does in terms of setlist choices, and I think it's got to the point that people need to, frankly, stop caring so much about it.
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