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Old 25-07-2013, 12:43 PM   #316
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When you load up my file are you able in Reaper to view expression (cc11 I think?) and program changes? Expression will show the treadle position and program changes determine what mode the whammy is in

And yes the first slide is -1, then it goes to -2 before going +2 etc


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At work right now, When I get home I will post a screen shot. Pretty much I loaded your MIDI file in, and I only see what looks like a bar graph of the instructions. I cannot see any values for the position of the whammy. Right after the first slide, I noticed a little short bar graph piece and I wasn't sure what it was, That must be the signal to change the program on the pedal.

Now this will get interesting for me, because Reaper doesn't have the ability to change the program of the whammy in Guitar Rig 5. I might have to make a rack with multiple Whammys all on different programs, and use each of them as needed... hmm
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At work right now, When I get home I will post a screen shot. Pretty much I loaded your MIDI file in, and I only see what looks like a bar graph of the instructions. I cannot see any values for the position of the whammy. Right after the first slide, I noticed a little short bar graph piece and I wasn't sure what it was, That must be the signal to change the program on the pedal.

Now this will get interesting for me, because Reaper doesn't have the ability to change the program of the whammy in Guitar Rig 5. I might have to make a rack with multiple Whammys all on different programs, and use each of them as needed... hmm
That's what I did and it works, to view midi values double click the midi track and click view> Mode: Event list. By the way when I had reaper controlling guitar rig there was a noticeable delay when it changed patches, the way I got round this was running two instances of guitar rig on two separate tracks; one with guitar rig being midi controlled with patches with just the whammy on and another instance with my usual effects on. The whammy instance had it's audio routed into the second track.
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Just was playing that guitar, and i think a pickup change is in order. you know something's wrong when a guitar makes an OR120 sound as thin as green screen kid looks...
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That's what I did and it works, to view midi values double click the midi track and click view> Mode: Event list. By the way when I had reaper controlling guitar rig there was a noticeable delay when it changed patches, the way I got round this was running two instances of guitar rig on two separate tracks; one with guitar rig being midi controlled with patches with just the whammy on and another instance with my usual effects on. The whammy instance had it's audio routed into the second track.
If that is what you did, any chance you could send me the file? This is pain staking to do haha
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Old 26-07-2013, 01:59 AM   #319
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So I've done all the way up to the middle section where Matt sings, my god was that painful, will do the rest tomorrow.



I recorded it quick playing along with the MIDI tracks, Sound Cloud rejected my upload though... Guess that means I didn't totally butcher it haha.

Edit: got it on youtube. Pretty happy with turn out this far from working on it last night. The only part I need to figure out more is the Neck scrape. I am playing on a Les paul, so the neck scrape doesn't work too well, so i just hit the top 3 strings open and let it go, not the greatest. Also did it with +1 octave which I am thinking of trying on different octave settings.


If anyone knows how to avoid this sound cloud crap, let me know!

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You really have done that the long way round, when I get a sec I'll send you my file.
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You really have done that the long way round, when I get a sec I'll send you my file.
Would love to see an easier way. I couldn't find away to send any signals to the Whammy effect in Guitar Rig to change the program of the effect. I was going to do it through 4 different channels so I could be more organized with the effects, and just route them one after the other, but it created a big input lag.

If you know how to change the program of the pedal in guitar rig, I'm listening!
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Guitar Rig will accept PC changes so just have five different patches with the whammy set to a different setting in each and you're away really.

I can't really upload my project as I'd need to upload my GR patches also, below is a screenshot of my Reaper and GuitarRig

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Guitar Rig will accept PC changes so just have five different patches with the whammy set to a different setting in each and you're away really.

I can't really upload my project as I'd need to upload my GR patches also, below is a screenshot of my Reaper and GuitarRig

I will have to give that a shot and see. Are you controlling the Whammy parameters differently than I am as well? Very new to Reaper, or any form of audio software in general, and there is a lot to digest in there at once and know what does what haha.
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I'm controlling the whammy treadle using midi also which it doesn't look like you're doing.
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I'm controlling the whammy treadle using midi also which it doesn't look like you're doing.
Hmm.. I found it really easy to do all the movements of the pedal with the way I did it, click and drag. I found the MIDI editor a bit confusing and wasn't really sure what to do haha
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I was gonna check my updated file today as I now have my amps but all my patch cables have decided to stop working. Will just have to do it without UO, although it sounds weak as now
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Hmm.. I found it really easy to do all the movements of the pedal with the way I did it, click and drag. I found the MIDI editor a bit confusing and wasn't really sure what to do haha
I just used Dom's midi file and set the appropriate cc to control the whammy in GR
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Well I gave a full cover a shot. I think today was the first time I didn't like my Les Paul because Neck Scrapes just don't work at all.



Not unhappy with the results.. could still improve for sure though
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I should probably do the MIDI stuff without the oct up setting on the UO turned on, always sounds different when other people try it

good cover though, just some bits need to be +2oct rather than +1. My bad
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Well I gave a full cover a shot. I think today was the first time I didn't like my Les Paul because Neck Scrapes just don't work at all.



Not unhappy with the results.. could still improve for sure though
nice i thought that was great, the nut is whats effecting the scratches at the top most les pauls sounds pretty flat and un harmonic when you do that but still ace.

what midi file you use for that one?
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