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Old 20-06-2013, 05:05 PM   #31
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I totally believe this. Not that they mime, but that backing tracks are used to enrich the spine. Theres layers of drums in unsustainable for example. It doesn't mean they aren't playing though. I've never seen a performance though where matt has used a track for his vocals. (I mean aside from the old tv show where they all switched places)
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Old 20-06-2013, 05:32 PM   #32
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I totally believe this. Not that they mime, but that backing tracks are used to enrich the spine. Theres layers of drums in unsustainable for example. It doesn't mean they aren't playing though. I've never seen a performance though where matt has used a track for his vocals. (I mean aside from the old tv show where they all switched places)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPHpGMYJMgs

I know it doesn't really count, but you said 'performance' not gig.
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Old 20-06-2013, 05:36 PM   #33
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It was vocal playback? Didn't know that.
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Old 20-06-2013, 05:45 PM   #34
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It was vocal playback? Didn't know that.
It really does sound like it yeah. that doesn't sound live.
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Old 20-06-2013, 05:46 PM   #35
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPHpGMYJMgs

I know it doesn't really count, but you said 'performance' not gig.
You know there's a proshot of that, right?
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Old 20-06-2013, 06:07 PM   #37
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Thanks! I was sure there was a pro-shot of that performance, but I couldn't remember the name or the venue. Eventually found it but didn't bother looking for the pro-shot ^^ Btw, the backing-vocals during last chorus makes it all very obvious.
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Old 20-06-2013, 06:09 PM   #38
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Cant believe i'm going to say this but

HLN > Het nieuwsblad

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/946/Muziek/...ref_map=%5B%5D

I'll translate when i got time but it basicly owns het nieuwsblad his article in the face.
It says there is no playback and everything was live except for some backing tracks. But that all instruments were live basicly. Full translation when i got time
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Cant believe i'm going to say this but

HLN > Het nieuwsblad

http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/946/Muziek/...ref_map=%5B%5D

I'll translate when i got time but it basicly owns het nieuwsblad his article in the face.
It says there is no playback and everything was live except for some backing tracks. But that all instruments were live basicly. Full translation when i got time
Great article!
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Old 20-06-2013, 06:49 PM   #40
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"Not one band loves to admit it, but Muse used the tape a lot", says Patrick Demoustier from PRG Productions. "They overused it. But I know that it's tempting to use tapes for many bands." PRG Productions is responsible for the sound of all big productions by LiveNation, the organisation behind events including Rock Werchter. But they weren't responsible for the sound during Werchter Boutique, the crew of the band was at the controls here.
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Old 20-06-2013, 06:52 PM   #41
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Other newspapers publicized the same article as Het Nieuwsblad though. /:
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Old 20-06-2013, 06:55 PM   #42
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Other newspapers publicized the same article as Het Nieuwsblad though. /:
Just de standaard and focus knack (focus knack allways give muse bad reviews anyway)
De morgen and HLN instantly deleted the article as they though about it twice
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There is a big difference between playback and what he describes. This is essentially live multi-tracking. Its obvious that Muse rely greatly on multi-tracking in the studio so it is even more necessary in a live situation where any weakness in the sound will be noticed by the crowd. It is not the crowds demanding perfection, its Muse wanting to replicate the largeness of the studio track.

I think there was a bit of sensationalizing on both sides. The guy shouldn't have said playback as it simply isn't playback as we commonly know it and the journalist for running with unconfirmed allegations.
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Old 20-06-2013, 06:56 PM   #44
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i dont imagine the whole sets are performed with backing tracks, but i have read recently that dom h uses recorded drum tracks which are played in tandem with dom hitting the drums at the same time. this produces a fatter meatier sound.

I dont know how much truth there is in the guitar backing tracks though. we all know how anti-miming the band are.
They did that kind of stuff in the Absolution days, wouldn't surprise me if they do it now but for the most part they seemed to have moved to getting a good enough sound out of their own instruments to not require double tracks.
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Old 20-06-2013, 07:00 PM   #45
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Just de standaard and focus knack (focus knack allways give muse bad reviews anyway)
De morgen and HLN instantly deleted the article as they though about it twice
Well Humo gave them a good review this time, must be the first time ever.
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