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Old 01-09-2012, 06:06 PM   #46
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Just so you know, the whole free speech thing doesn't cover you to be able to say anthing anywhere whenever you want. For example you could get fired from work for publicly bitching about the bosses decisions and no-one would intervene so I'm not sure why you think the American government would care if you were banned from a messageboard for complaining about the moderators.

You get free speech, but it doesn't mean that private organisations have to put up with it if they don't like it, unless it's actually something serious.
Yeah exactly. But by all means feel free to call the UN and complain because Niall deleted the rude comment about Kate Hudson on the Muse board or The Guardian website moderator #23 removed the trollish comment about how The Daily Mail is a much better newspaper if you want or any other of the many incidents that occurs continuously where a privately owned website removes user generated content.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:10 PM   #47
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Oop. Didn't mean for this one to be locked. Continue.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:17 PM   #48
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Just so you know, the whole free speech thing doesn't cover you to be able to say anthing anywhere whenever you want. For example you could get fired from work for publicly bitching about the bosses decisions and no-one would intervene so I'm not sure why you think the American government would care if you were banned from a messageboard for complaining about the moderators.

You get free speech, but it doesn't mean that private organisations have to put up with it if they don't like it, unless it's actually something serious.
That be grounds for unfair dismissal actually. Hence why my mum's partner got their job back after pointing out as such

Also, niall, you're appealing to absurdity. I'm pointing out that you saying that the boards status as private property affects free speech. It shouldn't.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:22 PM   #49
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Well I pointing out how ubiquitous and trivial this sort of thing is. If you think freedom of speech should extent to websites then ask your MP to bring it up in parliament, but that's how it works.

There's plenty of material online about it. See here for a good one.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:35 PM   #50
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Well I pointing out how ubiquitous and trivial this sort of thing is. If you think freedom of speech should extent to websites then ask your MP to bring it up in parliament, but that's how it works.

There's plenty of material online about it. See here for a good one.
I've just read that. I'm still on my phone which is what these are so brief, but in short, I have always felt that any area of discourse NEEDS to have freedom of speech where it doesn't infringe on people's right to protection from harm, otherwise you just create echo chambers which dont do anything good for anybody.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:41 PM   #51
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I have never read the rules, and I won't be reading the amended rules either. I know what will earn me a warning/infraction (eg: creating a thread that labelled Matt a whore and a homewrecker) and what won't. I haven't contributed anything of worth, I apologize.

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Old 01-09-2012, 06:42 PM   #52
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We do listen to all criticism and regularly take suggestions from users - that's why we rewrote the rules in the first place. Just not in public so it can be done in a constructive way.
Not to stir the pot, but shouldn't the re-written rules have been voted on by the community? If the members here are expected to abide by them, they should have a say in their amendment.

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This sentence makes me giggle:

"Do not create false information about the band in order to sincerely mislead other users."
If the mods really enforced the rules fairly, a chunk of MM posters would be infracted and/or banned on a regular basis. Just look at the T2L discussion thread for evidence. Not to mention the whole "Muse at the Opening Ceremony" debacle.


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There's an -ly added onto "material" that shouldn't be there.
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Old 01-09-2012, 07:32 PM   #54
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Not to stir the pot, but shouldn't the re-written rules have been voted on by the community? If the members here are expected to abide by them, they should have a say in their amendment.
there isn't really anything new in there.
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The whole free speech in the US has been varied. There have been cases where courts ruled against the 1st amendment depending on the situation (such as someone talking shit at school or something, I forget the exact case).

But anyways, I still find that rule pretty pointless. It seems to create more drama anyways because any argument with mods worth bringing public ends up public in the end from gossip and creates issues like these. And that argument about their being stricter boards is also silly. Sure, we're not the worst band message board, but couldn't we at least try to be a better band message board? Only time I've really used that argument is when people think you're some 21st century Hitler (in which case, lol)
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I thought the Mods were supposed to give a reason for locking a thread? It's a bit strange you have to PM them to ask for the reason when it should be made clear to all members why it was locked. I often see it done in MM so why is this not consistent practice?
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I thought the Mods were supposed to give a reason for locking a thread? It's a bit strange you have to PM them to ask for the reason when it should be made clear to all members why it was locked. I often see it done in MM so why is this not consistent practice?
Can you send us examples of when that occurs? Every thread lock should come with a brief explanation, unless it was an edit/move of posts to a new thread. In that instance, the new thread should be linked.
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Can you send us examples of when that occurs? Every thread lock should come with a brief explanation, unless it was an edit/move of posts to a new thread. In that instance, the new thread should be linked.
The ones in banter. L provided an explanation for the last one but it didn't appear until a couple of minutes after.
But I mean, it still says in the rules 'pm a mod why your thread was locked' implying mods don't have to provide a reason for locking it.
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