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Old 13-07-2018, 08:34 PM   #241
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Great movie! The sound engineering was phenomenal and was almost like a gig seeing MUSE on the big screen.

I was pleased to see that Morgan Nicholls got some screen time (he deserves it).
That was some quality cabassing there, I did have a little giggle to myself when the dude two seats from me said quite loudly, whose the dude with the primary school instrument.
And yeah, our cinema sound was on and off, one minute it was like you were there, the next it was so quiet,it was like MUSE was too loud and they had to turn it down for the neighbors, which was a shame. all in all though was awesome, gave another view of the stage that I didn't see from my squished viewpoint.
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That was pretty fun. The editing was a tad cheesy, but not overbearing and it did create some quite nice images. Also probably the coolest opening shot in any concert movie.
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Old 14-07-2018, 07:28 AM   #243
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Also probably the coolest opening shot in any concert movie.
Wish my theater didnít skip the beginning!
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Old 14-07-2018, 10:33 AM   #244
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Found it quite amusing they included the ridiculous guitar stand for the DI solo

The sound in the cinema I went to was good most of the time, but there were a few bits where it hurt with the crowd noise being so high, it even drowned out the band sometimes.
I don't even know which show Dead Inside was taken from as i can't see any where matt does a barrier walk from either Amsterdam, Berlin or Milan.

The only one i found was from Mexico. Is it possible they put this into the film?
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I don't even know which show Dead Inside was taken from as i can't see any where matt does a barrier walk from either Amsterdam, Berlin or Milan.

The only one i found was from Mexico. Is it possible they put this into the film?
Did you check all the nights at Milan for example?
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This is my complaint to the theatre re. the sound and their reply - are they taking the mickey? There were only 25 people there and six of us were unhappy.

Dear Sirs
I am writing to express my disappointment in your showing of the Muse film last night. There was obviously a sound problem with reduced volume and very little base. There appeared to be a slight improvement for the last song only. As the sound was the most important part of the film, Please could you let me know what went wrong?
Yours sincerely
EL

Thank you for your email.

I don't know why but the producers of the event decided to mix the sound as 4 channels rather than the 6 we have available, so there was no audio sent to the Sub Bass Speaker (LFE) behind the screen nor to the center speaker behind the screen. The only speakers in use were the Left and Right behind the screen and the surround speakers in the auditorium.

I've copied below an extract from the technical brief we received from the content providers


AUDIO
The feature is intentionally mixed in 4.0 to give an Ďall-encompassing, in the roundí concert feel and
to follow the concert that is in the centre of the arena on a revolving set, and not from one singular
point/stage.
We are aware there is no information on the LFE or centre channel
This does not require adjustment from the cinemas sound equipment.


So as far as we are concerned there was nothing wrong with the sound equipment in the Cinema, It was how the content / producers providers wanted it to be heard.

I did speak to a few customers at the end and they thoroughly enjoyed the experience.

So in closing all I can do is apologise on behalf of the producers / content providers for your disappointment. How the audio is mixed is out of our control, we can only playout what they send us.

Yours sincerely.

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Old 14-07-2018, 01:21 PM   #247
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What was the tracklist for the film?
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Old 14-07-2018, 01:45 PM   #248
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This is my complaint to the theatre re. the sound and their reply - are they taking the mickey? There were only 25 people there and six of us were unhappy.

Dear Sirs
I am writing to express my disappointment in your showing of the Muse film last night. There was obviously a sound problem with reduced volume and very little base. There appeared to be a slight improvement for the last song only. As the sound was the most important part of the film, Please could you let me know what went wrong?
Yours sincerely
EL

Thank you for your email.

I don't know why but the producers of the event decided to mix the sound as 4 channels rather than the 6 we have available, so there was no audio sent to the Sub Bass Speaker (LFE) behind the screen nor to the center speaker behind the screen. The only speakers in use were the Left and Right behind the screen and the surround speakers in the auditorium.

I've copied below an extract from the technical brief we received from the content providers


AUDIO
The feature is intentionally mixed in 4.0 to give an Ďall-encompassing, in the roundí concert feel and
to follow the concert that is in the centre of the arena on a revolving set, and not from one singular
point/stage.
We are aware there is no information on the LFE or centre channel
This does not require adjustment from the cinemas sound equipment.


So as far as we are concerned there was nothing wrong with the sound equipment in the Cinema, It was how the content / producers providers wanted it to be heard.

I did speak to a few customers at the end and they thoroughly enjoyed the experience.

So in closing all I can do is apologise on behalf of the producers / content providers for your disappointment. How the audio is mixed is out of our control, we can only playout what they send us.

Yours sincerely.

Neil Poole
Cinema Manager
What? Seriously? They just mixed it in 4.0? They've produced the live concert of one of the greatest live bands on the planet in just 4.0 when we're already way beyond the 7.1 surround standard?
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Old 14-07-2018, 02:12 PM   #249
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What was the tracklist for the film?
~Drones~
Psycho
Reapers
Interlude - Hysteria
Dead Inside
The Handler
Supermassive Black Hole
~Prelude~
Starlight
Madness
Time Is Running Out
Uprising
The Globalist
~Drones~
Take A Bow
Mercy
MWAH - Knights Of Cydonia
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What? Seriously? They just mixed it in 4.0? They've produced the live concert of one of the greatest live bands on the planet in just 4.0 when we're already way beyond the 7.1 surround standard?
I guess this reflects their intention to do a stream/download only and not put out a DVD/Blu Ray release. An intentional 4.0 mix to give an "all-encompassing, in the round concert feel" wouldn't be good enough to justify purchase for many when it's so far behind accepted home theater standards (5.1, 7.1 etc). On a fairly cheap download they can just provide a basic stereo mix and be done with it. Their next full scale live release will probably be aiming for better visual/audio fidelity than Rome - I guess this is just a stop-gap

EDIT: Have just seen Marc Carolan's instagram post about the hard work put into the mix. Perhaps he decided to take a more experimental approach after the physical release was ruled out? It seems to have worked better for some than others ...

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Old 14-07-2018, 02:32 PM   #251
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~Drones~
Psycho
Reapers
Interlude - Hysteria
Dead Inside
The Handler
Supermassive Black Hole
~Prelude~
Starlight
Madness
Time Is Running Out
Uprising
The Globalist
~Drones~
Take A Bow
Mercy
MWAH - Knights Of Cydonia
So they played Prelude making me think were were about to hear Survival (a great song). What a tease.
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Old 14-07-2018, 02:47 PM   #252
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So they played Prelude making me think were were about to hear Survival (a great song). What a tease.
Not that itís a prerequisite to watching the film so I donít necessarily blame you but...you really didnít pay attention to any of that tour, huh?
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I guess this reflects their intention to do a stream/download only and not put out a DVD/Blu Ray release. An intentional 4.0 mix to give an "all-encompassing, in the round concert feel" wouldn't be good enough to justify purchase for many when it's so far behind accepted home theater standards (5.1, 7.1 etc). On a fairly cheap download they can just provide a basic stereo mix and be done with it. Their next full scale live release will probably be aiming for better visual/audio fidelity than Rome - I guess this is just a stop-gap

EDIT: Have just seen Marc Carolan's instagram post about the hard work put into the mix. Perhaps he decided to take a more experimental approach after the physical release was ruled out? It seems to have worked better for some than others ...
It must be like you say, but still, why bother screening it in an audio format that is not optimal anymore for the majority of cinemas, then? Couldn't they have made it available by download or streaming right from the start?
If they really didn't want to discard the occasion of screening it worldwide, they should have produced at least two versions of the final mix basing on the audio format, it's to say 5.1 or 7.1 for cinemas and 4.0 for online download. Or, even better, they could have done like Rome and issued it in DVD/BluRay for even bigger revenues than they have made with a single (or two-) day screening, mantaining the same audio format for cinemas. But of course, DVD are obsolete, right Matt?
I may be too harsh on the production team, but I think they've made a too hasty, too rough job all around for the scale they aimed to without thinking of all the necessary details throughout.
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Old 14-07-2018, 04:18 PM   #254
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Saw it in a cinema in Madrid, where a couple of people did cheer all the songs and during Knights the guy in front was singing to all the riffs. Which was different. I also noted there were laughs at the Something Human snippet, which tbf, I thought looked a bit like full-on 80s cheese.

In the whole it sounded good, if as said, some bits were better quality than others (Psycho was pleasingly heavy, whereas the Reapers outro lacked the oomph I felt it had live, for instance), and it mercifully didn't have that weird filter on every shot. I also thought they might have added more stuff to the drones, although I did like the SMBH/Starlight drone illustrations.

No Plug in Baby did surprise me if only because I could swear a media article plugging the film referenced the track's inclusion.

Also did make me laugh that Matt spent most the video thanking Berlin and referencing being back in Germany, and then right at the end Dom yells "Thank you Milan!" I know it was filmed at both and Amsterdam (although I thought some footage also looked like it came from the London O2 gigs), and that the film clearly wasn't big on continuity, but still...
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On the (lack of) continuity front, I may well be wrong but I’m sure that at the end of Reapers I saw Matt pick up the Mirror guitar (or a similar model) as if they were going to play PiB, before Hysteria started instead (with a different guitar)
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