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Old 21-02-2013, 05:48 PM   #1
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Hi guys, new around here and don't know if this has been asked before, but what it Matt actually playing during live versions of Unsustainable. I know the guitar tech is doing the whammy, but what is he hitting? Any answers much appreciated, Arjun
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Old 21-02-2013, 05:51 PM   #2
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Old 21-02-2013, 05:53 PM   #3
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It would be if I could find my post with an alrightish Unsustainable tab and MIDI file. James you have leet searching skills. Help pls
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Old 21-02-2013, 05:56 PM   #4
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Well, this is what I play which for the most part seems accurate. At least going by the making of video (a couple of bits seem different live but it's the same note). Highlighted the main bits I'm unsure of in yellow, but they still sound ok

e--------------------------|-----------------------------|-----------------------|-------------------------------------------------
B-------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------------|-------------------------------------------------
G-------------------------|-----------------------------|------------------------|-------------------------------------------------
D-------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------------|-------------------------------------------------
A--12----------13-------|-0------0---12*------------|--12--------13-------|-13-13b-13b--13b-13b-13b--13b-13b--
E-------------------------|-------------------------------|-----------------------|-------------------------------------------------

e---------------------------------0-------0------------------------------------------------------------------
B--------------------------------0--------0------------------------------------------------------------------
G--------------------------------0--------0-----------------------------------------------------------------
D-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A--10*------------13--|--12------12-------|--12--------------13--|--12-12-12-12-12-12-12-12---
E--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


I can't do the whole strumming behind the nut thing on my guitar so yeah. That's what works with my MIDI file

I play it different from that, but then I'm not using the same MIDI file
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Old 21-02-2013, 06:10 PM   #5
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I play it different from that, but then I'm not using the same MIDI file
But I made it just for you
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Old 21-02-2013, 06:57 PM   #6
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For anyone interested just did a full cover of it, only on my phone though so sounds a bit shit. One day I'll get a new audio interface

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Old 21-02-2013, 09:24 PM   #7
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Thanks, I'll give that tab a go tomorrow. I assume that's with the detune set to -1 and the whammy to +1. Also, whats the midi file you are using?
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Old 21-02-2013, 09:33 PM   #8
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Thanks, I'll give that tab a go tomorrow. I assume that's with the detune set to -1 and the whammy to +1. Also, whats the midi file you are using?
That's with guitar into Whammy 5 (with expression and mode controlled by MIDI) into an Ultimate Octave with octave up on.

Does this link work? https://www.dropbox.com/s/bhiv0xg697...I%20Whammy.zip

That version isn't quite complete, the verse isn't quite done there
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ah ok, I'm running a Whammy DT and finding it hard to get anything near the correct sound
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ah ok, I'm running a Whammy DT and finding it hard to get anything near the correct sound
I don't know whether the DT has different midi settings for the different modes but if it doesn't then the file I linked should work well enough
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Also, any chance of a midi file that works in cubase. Sorry for being fussy
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I don't have Cubase sorry
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I don't know whether the DT has different midi settings for the different modes but if it doesn't then the file I linked should work well enough
I think that the settings the Whammy 5 has are the same MIDI commands on the DT, but obviously the DT has more settings that can be controlled. Also the DT settings are a lot clearer than the Whammy settings. For example, Oct -1 on the DT side sounds a lot better than Oct -1 with the Whammy part. Strange but true. Something to do with the Whammy side needing the ability to pitch bend quickly I'm guessing.
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Dominic, what chords do you play between 2min26 and 2min50 ?
I've heard that Matt tunes his guitar in AADGBE for this song, but I'm not sure...
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Dominic, what chords do you play between 2min26 and 2min50 ?
I've heard that Matt tunes his guitar in AADGBE for this song, but I'm not sure...
1:58 to 2:50 is just single notes all on the A string

A--0-----8-----5-----7-----3------5------0------0------ x2

Fancy bits are done with the whammy to make it go weeoo, which I've got closer but still not perfect. If you watch the making of or just listen you can work out the picking pattern
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