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Old 15-06-2012, 08:35 AM   #61
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But again it's no point checking if you've got the money, placing a hold on that money and when finalising the transacting taking a new lot of money instead of the money they placed a hold on!
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Old 15-06-2012, 11:31 AM   #62
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Would just like to say Sam has been brilliant helping me sort out why my money was still being held despite not getting a ticket.

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Old 15-06-2012, 11:32 AM   #63
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Oh, and in future, any scheme or initiative like this should be made available only to those who were registered BEFORE it became active. Otherwise, it defeats the point of the whole system.
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Old 15-06-2012, 12:08 PM   #64
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Maybe they should have a sort of 'security question' that you have to answer correctly in order to get a presale ticket.

For example, 'Which of the following songs do members of the Muse Messageboard complain about most - Knights Of Cydonia, Supermassive Black Hole, Feeling Good, Uprising, or Unintended?'

Muse fans who actually use their membership will know that pretty much everyone here has a massive hissy fit at anyone who even mentions Feeling Good.
this mechanism wont work because there will be a little gang of people with scripts or who will use google to search for the answers.. much like criminal gangs using hoards of people to type the regotchya security codes and numbers.

It may seem unfair but the best way to do a presale is to issue an unique ID code matched against your .mu username, used in tandem with only allowing forum members with 'x' amount of years under their belt, who are active. And regularly weeding out the old forum accounts who havent logged on for a year. It may seem harsh but if you are a guest and only like to browse forums you can still do that without having a user account.
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Old 15-06-2012, 12:10 PM   #65
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I thought it depended on your bank

No, my bank would have released it within a few hours had they received the money back from their merchant bank. The money was still being geld by their bank anytime i've checked over the last day or two
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Old 15-06-2012, 12:16 PM   #66
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No, my bank would have released it within a few hours had they received the money back from their merchant bank. The money was still being geld by their bank anytime i've checked over the last day or two
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Old 15-06-2012, 12:46 PM   #67
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this mechanism wont work because there will be a little gang of people with scripts or who will use google to search for the answers.. much like criminal gangs using hoards of people to type the regotchya security codes and numbers.

It may seem unfair but the best way to do a presale is to issue an unique ID code matched against your .mu username, used in tandem with only allowing forum members with 'x' amount of years under their belt, who are active. And regularly weeding out the old forum accounts who havent logged on for a year. It may seem harsh but if you are a guest and only like to browse forums you can still do that without having a user account.
This does seem a bit unfair, I'm a massive Muse fan, allbeit older than most, I browse the forums sometimes but find that half the time I have no idea what everyone is on about and the other half can't be doing with all the swearing!!
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Old 15-06-2012, 01:01 PM   #68
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This does seem a bit unfair, I'm a massive Muse fan, allbeit older than most, I browse the forums sometimes but find that half the time I have no idea what everyone is on about and the other half can't be doing with all the swearing!!
I can see you registered this week, probably to get presale tickets, which is fair enough as a fan, but what about ensuring those people that have been on this fan board for several months, a year, seveal years.. many many years.. get tickets first?

Those existing active members can wholeheartedly say they are fans.. id have to agree, not to say you are any less of a fan.

The problem here is stopping touts or small resellers who want to make a profit from selling pre-sale muse member tickets at high prices.

.Mu should freeze new registrations for a month at least before tickets come to market. This will protect those who already are members and stop opportunists from joining, it would also have the downside of impacting people like yourself from joining, albeit until the pre-sale ticket allocations are gone when the freeze is lifted.

Also If you had friends who are already on this board then they could get tickets for you. These are just ideas im throwing out here.
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Old 15-06-2012, 01:20 PM   #69
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I appreciated the opportunity for the lottery draw and the pre-sale though failed in both despite getting to the point where I was able to enter my details and card number, only to be informed they had sold out whilst I was filling in my details. Same happened during the public selling, I got to entering my details which were saved for a quick copy and paste yet still I was not quick enough.

I would be interested in the % of tickets that were allocated to the lottery and subsequent pre-sales. I would hope that any band would want the house full of real fans yet my experience would indicate that tickets were allocated outside of the lottery draw. This is obviously not down to Muse but sad that this is happening to real fans.
The cost of tickets is also very high, I will dig out my stubs from previous years and see what inflation is. But as a fan who knows the value of their gigs, I will pay that but I won't buy from someone who claimed to be a fan and then doubled the price and put them on eBay before even the pre-sale.
Come on, someone has to stop this ridiculous resale business that is stopping genuine followers being at gigs.

None of my rant is an attack on Muse, for the first time in 8 years I won't see Muse on a UK tour. Instead I have booked tickets to see them in Lódz Poland on the 23.11.12.
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Old 15-06-2012, 01:24 PM   #70
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I can see you registered this week, probably to get presale tickets, which is fair enough as a fan, but what about ensuring those people that have been on this fan board for several months, a year, seveal years.. many many years.. get tickets first?

Those existing active members can wholeheartedly say they are fans.. id have to agree, not to say you are any less of a fan.

The problem here is stopping touts or small resellers who want to make a profit from selling pre-sale muse member tickets at high prices.

.Mu should freeze new registrations for a month at least before tickets come to market. This will protect those who already are members and stop opportunists from joining, it would also have the downside of impacting people like yourself from joining, albeit until the pre-sale ticket allocations are gone when the freeze is lifted.

Also If you had friends who are already on this board then they could get tickets for you. These are just ideas im throwing out here.
Yep, I get what you're saying the tout thing is so unfair and then the "fans" ebaying them, I don't get that at all.

I was on Ticketmaster at 10 sharp yesterday and the best ticket I could get for Manchester was block 104 at the back, I wanted 102 or 115 so how did all those seats get snapped up so quickly!.

Yes, I did only register for the "messageboard" this week cause I had something to say. I have been a member of the site for a while so was able to apply for the presale but I didn't want standing tickets so I didn't feel like everyones Grandma and I also have a bit of a dodgy back.
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Old 15-06-2012, 01:27 PM   #71
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... for the first time in 8 years I won't see Muse on a UK tour. Instead I have booked tickets to see them in Lódz Poland on the 23.11.12.
It's a bit rough when you have to go abroad because of being unable to get UK tickets. However, the gigs I have been to abroad have been amazing. You will probably have the most brilliant time in Poland
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Old 15-06-2012, 02:38 PM   #72
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Sooo disappointed

I have been a fan for 11 years seen them every tour, my teenage boys now like Muse too and I promised them a fantastic concert, but....

I didn't use the first pre-sale as we didn't want to stand and I didn't get the 9am link so we got tickets right at the back. Guess I should be grateful I got tickets at all.

Not the best way to treat loyal fans.
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Old 15-06-2012, 02:48 PM   #73
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I can see you registered this week, probably to get presale tickets, which is fair enough as a fan, but what about ensuring those people that have been on this fan board for several months, a year, seveal years.. many many years.. get tickets first?

Those existing active members can wholeheartedly say they are fans.. id have to agree, not to say you are any less of a fan.

The problem here is stopping touts or small resellers who want to make a profit from selling pre-sale muse member tickets at high prices.

.Mu should freeze new registrations for a month at least before tickets come to market. This will protect those who already are members and stop opportunists from joining, it would also have the downside of impacting people like yourself from joining, albeit until the pre-sale ticket allocations are gone when the freeze is lifted.

Also If you had friends who are already on this board then they could get tickets for you. These are just ideas im throwing out here.
I think a simple cut off at only allowing users who have been members since before the announcement would be sufficient. The idea is only to stop new opportunists and touts who want to try their luck.

I've seen so many people I know not get any tickets who it's unheard of for them to not get tickets to anything. Something was definitely going wrong with this sale of tickets for that to happen. And I'm pretty sure lack of standard presale was part of the reason.

I really hope these people can get tickets when they announce the third O2 gig, at least.
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Old 15-06-2012, 02:57 PM   #74
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I think a simple cut off at only allowing users who have been members since before the announcement would be sufficient. The idea is only to stop new opportunists and touts who want to try their luck.

I've seen so many people I know not get any tickets who it's unheard of for them to not get tickets to anything. Something was definitely going wrong with this sale of tickets for that to happen. And I'm pretty sure lack of standard presale was part of the reason.

I really hope these people can get tickets when they announce the third O2 gig, at least.
third gig? is that definite or speculation?



Put it on the end of the tour and give the "unsuccessful" lottery people first dibs on tickets (with one set aside for me ;-) )
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Old 15-06-2012, 03:07 PM   #75
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Speculation (if I knew there was one I'd keep it secret!) but we got one for the TR tour and this sold out even faster. One or two extra gigs would be not at all surprising.
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