Speculation on future gigs/tours

[Sparky_]

Originally Posted by Electricmuser96

Or (to be more realistic) something like SFA, Invincible or Apocalypse Please. Surely, it bores them to play the same songs at every gig? A lot of it, when thought about, doesn't even make sense.

Yeah just venting my hopes and expectations.
trololol

Wait, Invincible? NOOOO
But yeah SFA, Apocalypse, Map, Butterflies & Hurricanes. ect.

[Jobby]

Right...

Originally Posted by matt <3 muse

But when your Matt sitting in a room writing the setlist, and you have 15 hits to fit into a 15 song set (not including jams/interlude) you obviously are going to keep the same basic setlist.

Not every Muse gig had 15 songs. The ones that had 20 or 21 were still as predictable as I said. I went to the Manchester gig in 2010 which had about 20/21 songs and predicted most of the setlist - exceptions were Butterflies, MOTP, Take A Bow and maybe Citizen Erased. Four songs that made me say "Oh, didn't see that coming"? Not enough, if you ask me.

When your Thom sitting in a room writing the setlist, and you have 15 hits to fit into a 23 song setlist, you can sit there and think ok, this rarity will fit in between these two songs etc...Which is how variation comes about.

The songs Thom/the band kept the same won't all have been hits - that's one of the best things about Radiohead's setlists, they don't cater to casuals.

If Muse played the same 15 songs in a different order every night, it wouldnt make any difference because its still just the same 15 songs.

Yes it would, it would get rid of at least some of the predictability.

[bumpypotato]

To be honest, I really hope the next album is full of good live tracks. I think that's part of what made this tour so stagnant. There were only a few really good live tracks on it. In fact, the only one I thought went really well live was Uprising. I think the fact that there was very little new material that was actually decent live or regularly played meant that they effectively fell back on the Black Holes setlist, with a few songs swapped out for the new ones. If all goes well and this album kicks all kinds of ass, I'm hopeful we'll have a more interesting tour.

[Sippe]

Originally Posted by matt <3 muse

But when your Matt sitting in a room writing the setlist, and you have 15 hits to fit into a 15 song set (not including jams/interlude) you obviously are going to keep the same basic setlist.

When your Thom sitting in a room writing the setlist, and you have 15 hits to fit into a 23 song setlist, you can sit there and think ok, this rarity will fit in between these two songs etc...Which is how variation comes about.

If Muse played the same 15 songs in a different order every night, it wouldnt make any difference because its still just the same 15 songs.

Why are you even arguing about a possible situation like Muse HAVE to play 15 songs?

Or that they HAVE to play all their hits?

[Oh Hannah]

Originally Posted by bumpypotato

To be honest, I really hope the next album is full of good live tracks. I think that's part of what made this tour so stagnant. There were only a few really good live tracks on it. In fact, the only one I thought went really well live was Uprising. I think the fact that there was very little new material that was actually decent live or regularly played meant that they effectively fell back on the Black Holes setlist, with a few songs swapped out for the new ones. If all goes well and this album kicks all kinds of ass, I'm hopeful we'll have a more interesting tour.

Well Dom told a fan that this was the case do lets hope he's right!

[chudenk]

SWU Music & Arts Festival 2012 ?

[Jobby]

Originally Posted by chudenk

SWU Music & Arts Festival 2012 ?

Are you asking if that's real or not? If you are:

1) Their logo has been done wrong
2) They wouldn't be that far down the bill

[forevermusic]

With any luck there'll be more variety of songs on this tour, given Muse seemed to eager to fall back on the classics on the last tour.

Even if that variety is just swapping out, say, UD and TiRO for Butterflies & Hurricanes and Hyper Music every 2 or 3 shows, that's still more variety than most of the TR tour managed.

Oh and that SWU bill would almost certainly be one of the most expensive bills ever. Though personally I'd put Muse above The Killers.

[Jobby]

Originally Posted by forevermusic

Even if that variety is just swapping out, say, UD and TiRO for Butterflies & Hurricanes and Hyper Music every 2 or 3 shows, that's still more variety than most of the TR tour managed.

That's probably never gonna get played again, let alone rotated.

[bumpypotato]

Originally Posted by Electricmuser96

That's probably never gonna get played again, let alone rotated.

I think it's safe to say Hyper Music, if even played, will be a rarity. Which is fair enough, it does seem quite draining on their voices, however another replacement could be something like Dark Shines, or maybe even Fury or the Small Print. my theory is, if this album is much more energetic then The Resistance, even if they have predictable setlists, the shows will be much better, and complaints will be kept to a minimum. Songs like Guiding Light and Undisclosed Desires just dragged to much.

[Riveon]

Originally Posted by forevermusic

With any luck there'll be more variety of songs on this tour, given Muse seemed to eager to fall back on the classics on the last tour.

What I thought last time...what I thought.

[bILLOO]

It's gonna be a bit shit.

[hipbones]

Originally Posted by bILLOO

It's gonna be a bit shit.

YES.

[TheMuseSmurf]

if they do start playing more intimate venues like Matt said they were thinking of doing, we'll hopefully see less of a focus to casuals.

[TheDarkShines]

Originally Posted by TheMuseSmurf

if they do start playing more intimate venues like Matt said they were thinking of doing, we'll hopefully see less of a focus to casuals.

When has he said that? I've just heard that he has always enjoyed playing large venues and hopes to play more stadiums.