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Dominic. 29-04-2013 09:28 PM

christ some of the youtube covers of this make me cringe

Kueller917 29-04-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic. (Post 10082530)
christ some of the youtube covers of this make me cringe

Post examples.

inb4 mine

Dominic. 29-04-2013 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kueller917 (Post 10082540)
Post examples.

inb4 mine

nah I like yours cos it's like, actual pwoper (urgh) and decent

There's another whammy one, with an MA, but the tone sounds so thin and horrible and the guy playing stands so still and static

basically most of the ones that don't have like the pitch shifting stuff annoy me

Kueller917 29-04-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic. (Post 10082548)
nah I like yours cos it's like, actual pwoper (urgh) and decent

There's another whammy one, with an MA, but the tone sounds so thin and horrible and the guy playing stands so still and static

basically most of the ones that don't have like the pitch shifting stuff annoy me

Well this one doesn't have pitch shifting but I still liked it mainly for resourcefulness seeing as it was one of the first.

Also no one will ever top this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Og75Q5IQ3g

Dominic. 29-04-2013 09:45 PM

Haha the esparoba one is class

Citizen_Eraser 29-04-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic. (Post 10082522)
so wait, I kinda get the idea, but what exactly do you mean by say...7up on the d string then 9 up on the g string. What exactly do the numbers represent and are you just playing the open D and G strings?

EDIT: or do the numbers represent the fret? It's the way it's in brackets that confuses me I guess. I don't know if it's like 9 steps up or some weird shit like that

yes its the fret you play. The brackets are for the whammy movements idk why i included the fret in the bracket.

Also forgot to mention on the whammy set after the 3rd fret A string you need to bend the 9 on the G string as you ride up with the whammy so it raises even higher than a fully up toe.

The up and down is just whether you move the toe up or down. It starts out always in the down position because you have to have it -1 octave to play the riff correctly on the A string. From that point its just a matter of learning how gradual to time the movements of the treadle. If you watch the live video at saitama you'll hear the pattern of some of them being pitch up and some being pitch down.

Dominic. 29-04-2013 10:48 PM

Looking through various youtube videos and seeing people comment oh so wisely how matt isn't playing guitar cos he's not by the whammy. Does my head in

Did people have this sort of reaction when MOTP was first played?

Citizen_Eraser 29-04-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic. (Post 10082614)
Looking through various youtube videos and seeing people comment oh so wisely how matt isn't playing guitar cos he's not by the whammy. Does my head in

Did people have this sort of reaction when MOTP was first played?

Yeah I know. I was always skeptical just based on how hes not facing the crowd and it just kinda seemed like he exaggerated his movements but then I saw them from the barrier when they came St. Louis and it was definitely live. You could just tell.

PHYXATION 30-04-2013 12:29 AM

what i did when i got the midi file in cubase was set the channel and the midi cc's for the treadle to 11(expression) and re wrote the program changes to suit the whammy 4 from 5.

it does do certain things to the whammy like changing programs and treadle control
just not what its saying in cubase (midi list editor) as i say, all cc's expression and program
changes are set to what you have on the whammy 5.

ill look into it further, for all i know it could be a latency problem or god just hating me XD

ill send the cubase file to anyone using cubase(with doms permission) to see if it works
with them..

Dominic. 30-04-2013 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PHYXATION (Post 10082741)
what i did when i got the midi file in cubase was set the channel and the midi cc's for the treadle to 11(expression) and re wrote the program changes to suit the whammy 4 from 5.

it does do certain things to the whammy like changing programs and treadle control
just not what its saying in cubase (midi list editor) as i say, all cc's expression and program
changes are set to what you have on the whammy 5.

ill look into it further, for all i know it could be a latency problem or god just hating me XD

ill send the cubase file to anyone using cubase(with doms permission) to see if it works
with them..

Ah right. I wonder if the manuals for the 4 and 5 would be any help, they have all the MIDI info you need on both models in them

and feel free to share it, I don't mind anyone using it, it's not like it's even for my own song or anything

PHYXATION 30-04-2013 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominic. (Post 10082753)
Ah right. I wonder if the manuals for the 4 and 5 would be any help, they have all the MIDI info you need on both models in them

and feel free to share it, I don't mind anyone using it, it's not like it's even for my own song or anything

ive used the manuals :( and you have put your own time into this id feel rude sharing it without asking :) going have another crack at it see if i can get a result. there seems to be a lot of
layers to this can they all be merged into one or is each new channel a different set off commands?

Dominic. 30-04-2013 04:55 PM

This song is too much fun

nilh 01-05-2013 08:53 AM

Hi there,

we just did a cover, full band...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPWGTJmo7ac

PHYXATION 01-05-2013 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nilh (Post 10083987)
Hi there,

we just did a cover, full band...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPWGTJmo7ac


how did you make the pitchshifting for that?
was pretty good well done :)

Citizen_Eraser 03-05-2013 06:51 AM

Is someone interested in doing an autowhammy file for me for the live version of my manual whammy cover? Like I don't know how to use any of those programs to create it but considering that manually with the whammy I found out the notes and the pattern of pitch shifting I could give someone the info and them use it to create a file?

I know theres a bunch floating around already in this thread but they're for the album version with 3 notes after each bit of the riff vs 2 he does live with no behind the nut scrapes.


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