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Alysum
06-03-2004, 08:01 PM
Hallo,

I'm setting this thread for all Fuzz Factory users.

What is the Fuzz Factory ?

Is Matt's main effect he uses in a lot of Muse songs. This pedal is a very special distorsion/fuzz pedal.

But Matt has this effect built in his 3 main Mansons guitars (black, silver and brocken mirror) and most recently the silver Bomber.

A lot of comments can be viewed here (http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/Zachary_Vex/Fuzz_Factory-01.html).

Where to buy the Fuzz Factory ?

Not many dealers sell this effect, but you can get in on Mansons shop (http://www.mansons.co.uk/product_info.cfm?productID=FuzzFMuse&CFID=272001&CFTOKEN=22861146) (who makes Matt's guitars) for 209 But you might prefer to buy it in america as it's quite cheap, for example on musictoyz.com (http://www.musictoyz.com/guitar/pedals/zvex1.php) it's $ 229.95 (124 ) or on buzzfox (http://buzzfox.com/zv-fuzzfact.html) $ 220

What are the ideal settings for a muse song ?

From the FAQ and chri's post:

For songs like New Born and Bliss its best to set the Stab all the way, Drive no higher than 12:00, hardly any Comp and if you really can't stand a bit of hiss use the Gate.
For CE its best to have lots of Fuzz, this is a setting I like to use for CE and Muscle Museum Stab - 5:00 Drive - 5:00 Comp - 7:00 Gate Far enough to get rid of the hissing.

Plug in Baby: Radio Fuzz setting (7:00 10:00 12:00 12:00)

How can I integrate a FF to my guitar? Is it complicated?

to come

MORE INFO
See Chris' post: http://board.muse.mu/showpost.php?p=726841&postcount=1665

kuz
06-03-2004, 08:04 PM
Where to buyt the Fuzz Factory ?
buzzfox (http://buzzfox.com/zv-fuzzfact.html) sell them for $220, but the shipping might be more from there, im not sure. (yeah... its only $10 difference, but still... :rolleyes: )

Alysum
06-03-2004, 08:05 PM
any tips are welcome I'll put them in first post ;)

Alysum
06-03-2004, 08:15 PM
buzzfox (http://buzzfox.com/zv-fuzzfact.html) sell them for $220, but the shipping might be more from there, im not sure. (yeah... its only $10 difference, but still... :rolleyes: )They don't look all that serious that web site :-/ and no information about international shipping.
On musictoyz the shipping is 10 $.

kuz
06-03-2004, 08:25 PM
not necessarily, at music toyz it depends on the weight of the pedal. and the website must be a little serious, it has recordings of most of the pedals (and you can sorta play around with them too :) ). they tell you to contact them for the shipping price.

but yeah, your point is somewhat valid.

~arph
06-03-2004, 08:26 PM
They don't look all that serious that web site :-/ and no information about international shipping.
On musictoyz the shipping is 10 $.

I bought mine from buzzfox, I got in 2 days.. from canada to the netherlands, total was about 240 euros.
So good service.

Alysum
06-03-2004, 09:13 PM
not necessarily, at music toyz it depends on the weight of the pedal. and the website must be a little serious, it has recordings of most of the pedals (and you can sorta play around with them too :) ). they tell you to contact them for the shipping price.

but yeah, your point is somewhat valid.
No it's 10 $ I simulated a buy. ALso I know someone who got it there with 10 $ shipping.

Alysum
06-03-2004, 09:14 PM
I bought mine from buzzfox, I got in 2 days.. from canada to the netherlands, total was about 240 euros.
So good service.
oh that's sounds nice, anyway I want to get a pickup so I well order both on musictoyz ;)

Sebso
07-03-2004, 03:13 AM
The fuzz factory is the most impressive and fun effect you'll find. Add some delay and the people around you will get nuts. Fun Fun!

Alysum
07-03-2004, 08:55 AM
Do you have it ?

Here is a shot list of Muse songs I/we would like to know for the FF :

- Plug in baby
- New born
- Dead star
- Citizen erased
- etc...

Does anyone know what setting Matt has for the Drive and Stab ? (which he never changes, they con only be changed inside his guitar) :)

Krasnojarsk
07-03-2004, 10:10 AM
Noone's ever released info about his internal trimpots...and if it's been done, I'd like to know.
I just have a question for all Fuzz Factory/Probe owners: will this pedal fill 'all your distortion needs', or do you use other dist pedals as well?

I'm planning to get a Fuzz Probe, just have to get some money (not much left now :) )

Dramatic Hammer
07-03-2004, 10:42 AM
I just have a question for all Fuzz Factory/Probe owners: will this pedal fill 'all your distortion needs', or do you use other dist pedals as well?


it will fill all your "fuzz needs", but it doesn't cover the whole distortion spectrum - you won't get cranked amp-ness out of it ie saturated power tubes etc.

Krasnojarsk
07-03-2004, 10:48 AM
OK, cheers.

Hypermusician
07-03-2004, 11:32 AM
I used to use a russian big muff before the fuzz factory, but I don't really have any use for it now cos there is a setting on the FF that sounds muff-esque. I still use a marshall shredmaster as my smooth overdrive sort of distortion though.

Sebso
07-03-2004, 05:14 PM
The Fuzz give you almost any sound, but because of my pickups (single) I cant' get loud harmonics, for example... on Citizen Erased, the Fuzz factory cant get those. But is just one song, so it's Ok, you always can use the amp distortion or any middle priced distortion pedal.

I strongly recommend the Fuzz Factory. (or de Fuzz probe).

kuz
07-03-2004, 05:20 PM
you can get harmonics with single pickups. it depends on how you play, and which pickup you use.

Sebso
07-03-2004, 06:17 PM
you can get harmonics with single pickups. it depends on how you play, and which pickup you use.


I know, but belive me, the fuzz can't get it right, I use the Boss MT-2, and works fine.

Alysum
07-03-2004, 10:44 PM
I ordered mine today :)

Still no suggested settings :( Come on ! :) It's one of the things that worries me cause I read that it's pretty hard to set up the FF with it's 5 knobs

Biblical
07-03-2004, 10:51 PM
I ordered mine today :)

Still no suggested settings :( Come on ! :) It's one of the things that worries me cause I read that it's pretty hard to set up the FF with it's 5 knobs
Name / Description- Gate Comp Drive Stab

60's Fuzz 2:00 8:30 3:00 5:00
Arpegio 12:00 3:00 3:00 3:00
Bonkers Fuzz (1) 2:00 2:00 11:00 3:00
Bonkers Fuzz (2) 1:00 1:00 11:00 3:00
Clean Fuzz 5:00 2:00 11:00 5:00
Clean to OD 5:00 2:00 10:00 5:00
Fizzy Fizz 10:00 1:00 11:00 12:00
Fuzz Bright 1:00 12:00 1:00 4:00
Fuzz Distortion 12:00 12:00 3:00 9:00
Fuzz Mellow 1:00 12:00 1:00 9:00
Fuzz Splutter 3:00 12:00 3:00 9:00
Fuzz Squeal 9:00 12:00 3:00 9:00
Hi-Compression 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00
Hi-Octane 2:00 to 3:00 7:00 7:00 5:00
IYW 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00
Juice Face 12:00 12:00 12:00 12:00
Mellow Mud 2:30 7:00 7:00 9:00
Metal Distortion 4:00 10:30 7:00 5:00
Modulated Mud Fuzz 12:00 11:00 5:00 7:00
Modulated Sticky 12:00 1:00 5:00 7:00
Modulated Sticky Fuzz 9:00 3:00 9:00 3:00
Muse-esque 2:30 3:15 5:00 5:00
No-Name Fuzz 1:00 11:00 2:00 7:00
No-Name Fuzz 10:00 7:00 12:00 5:00
OD / Fuzz 7:00 7:00 7:00 5:00
OD Squeal 7:00 12:00 3:00 3:00
Pitch Drop 7:00 12:00 5:00 7:00
Please Fuzz 12:00 7:00 3:00 2:00
Punky 2:30 - 3:30 7:00 7:00 5:00
Random Fuzz 1:30 7:00 5:00 4:00 (approx)
Resonant Fuzz 7:00 7:00 12:00 4:00
Smashing Pumpkins-esque 2:00 9:00 5:00 10:00
Soft Fuzz 1:00 7:00 7:00 Variable
Spastic Muff 5:00 7:00 5:00 5:00
Squaler 9:00 9:00 9:00 9:00
Squealer Fuzz (2) 7:00 8:00 1:00 7:00
Static / Low 12:00 12:00 5:00 7:00
Stooges Fuzz 3:00 7:00 3:00 5:00
Super-Heavy 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00
Sweet Sustain 1:00 7:00 10:00 1:30
Traditional Fuzz 9:00 7:00 11:00 to 1:00 11:00 to 1:00
Traditional Fuzz (1) 9:00 7:00 1:00 5:00
Traditional Fuzz (2) 2:00 7:00 3:00 5:00
Velcro 7:00 5:00 5:00 2:00
Weezer-esque 2:30 7:00 7:00 5:00
Whale 7:00 1:00 5:00 9:00
What the Fuzz? 7:00 7:00 5:00 5:00


oh i think he used solodano amp distortion with a booster pedal or overdrive with the amp distortion for CE

Sebso
08-03-2004, 05:05 AM
You just have to get your own sound, its really easy, play with the comp, gate and drive, use the stab just to get some squeal or weird sounds, its simple.

I really think than Matt changes the settings all the time, because the fuzz is different, I really dont think that the internal settings remains the same.

Dramatic Hammer
09-03-2004, 12:16 PM
the other thing is that the fuzz factories are all slightly different due to variations in the componants.

but a good starting point for a muse sound (on my fuzz factory using o-clock positions) is gate:10 comp:7 drive:2.30 stab:2.
you then adjust the stab and drive slightly to get the right-ish feedback pitch (use a live plug in baby recording) then play the main riff. at the end of the main riff (live) there is a bit where matt holds a few notes and they decay into ff feedback(oscillation) if you play with the volume on your guitar you can get the exact decay time.
after all this, you will have the perfect Muse-Fuzz factory tone.
but only for the songs where crazy feedback is used ie plug in baby.
hehe

agitatedbells
16-03-2004, 03:56 PM
just wodering, if matt has the fuzz factory in his guitar (meaning it goes first in the effect chain) how does he use his whmmy, i thought that had to be first

aha
16-03-2004, 04:10 PM
he has the ff built inside of his custom guitarsand he can control it from there using the knobs on the outside of his guitar.

skanky
16-03-2004, 04:42 PM
A Whammy doesn't have to be first in chain, I've put my whammy after distortion, it sounds much better.

Alysum
16-03-2004, 09:56 PM
Come on up !

Cerpin
16-03-2004, 11:16 PM
I`m really lame, so I bought an MT-2!

Not that`s something you don`t see every day :LOL:

Cerpin
16-03-2004, 11:20 PM
One rule:

ALWAYS use the FF first.

Dramatic Hammer
16-03-2004, 11:29 PM
the whammy appears to track better/faster if it's after fuzz (probably as it is working with nice almost-square waves rather than dodgy guitar curves).

~arph
17-03-2004, 12:03 AM
The Fuzz give you almost any sound, but because of my pickups (single) I cant' get loud harmonics, for example... on Citizen Erased, the Fuzz factory cant get those. But is just one song, so it's Ok, you always can use the amp distortion or any middle priced distortion pedal.


Mmmm... I got a strat and a tele (both single coils I believe) and I got no problems of getting really loud harmonics with my FF... the trick is to discover where to play those harmonics... (I mean it's harmonics after all...) especially.. the hand that holds the pick.. I'm getting the really loud ones right above the bridge pickup (yes it works both for tele and strats for me...) whilst above the neck pickup they're almost unaudible.. (ok.. I'm assuming that you mostly use the bridge, bridge/middle pickups anyway..)

Good luck!

Sebso
17-03-2004, 04:14 AM
Mmmm... I got a strat and a tele (both single coils I believe) and I got no problems of getting really loud harmonics with my FF... the trick is to discover where to play those harmonics... (I mean it's harmonics after all...) especially.. the hand that holds the pick.. I'm getting the really loud ones right above the bridge pickup (yes it works both for tele and strats for me...) whilst above the neck pickup they're almost unaudible.. (ok.. I'm assuming that you mostly use the bridge, bridge/middle pickups anyway..)

Good luck!


Yes, I use the middle pickup, because I hate the buzz of the neck pickup.

MicroWavesMeInsane
18-03-2004, 03:28 AM
So what actually is Matt's main distortion, his FF or is it from his amp?

Cerpin
18-03-2004, 10:16 AM
Live it`s definatly the FF, on the "crunch" channel of the Diezel I believe. In studio I think he experiments and uses what`s best for the particular song.

Krasnojarsk
18-03-2004, 04:49 PM
Hello!

I just realised I'll have to save months longer to get a Fuzz Probe, since I keep wasting money on records and books, now I'm really considering an FF instead. As I've written here million of times, I only play at home (it'll probably change in the future), and I want to do (sorry for bringing Matt up, but...)like Matt does in the beginning of some Blackouts live, when he pulls the stab knob until it oscillates in the same pitch as the song and starts playing, a technique I would very much like to use.
So, please decide for me :D I might as well reach down to the floor and yank it about, or taping it to the guitar right?

Oh, sorry, just realised how confusing this was, basically, I guess, I want to hear happy, happy words from FF owners! :D

Cheers,
Kras

Biblical
18-03-2004, 04:55 PM
industrial velcro is better

Krasnojarsk
18-03-2004, 04:59 PM
Hehe, guess I'm just Swedish, here everything is tape :rolleyes: So industrial velcro is the stuuf you use for cardboard and boxes like that eh?

Yes, strange discussion for kit and tab...

"What velcro does Matt use?" :LOL:

Sebso
18-03-2004, 05:00 PM
The FF will do the job, it's cool to control the stab with your foot, but you can just twist the knob, 100dlls cheaper. :D

Biblical
18-03-2004, 05:10 PM
velcro
http://myeasydoesit.com/images/velcro-pants.jpg

Krasnojarsk
18-03-2004, 05:10 PM
Alrighty then, FF it is. Cheers. :) I love it when decisions are taken by others. :D

Krasnojarsk
18-03-2004, 05:12 PM
Oh I see, hence the name velcro rip eh...get it, cheers. :) I could always stick a little velcro strip on the guitar and say it's a MIDI strip! :D

haze015
18-03-2004, 05:45 PM
Get the Probe!!!

It's much better when you don't have to touch the pedal at all and do the squealy noises :D

Krasnojarsk
18-03-2004, 05:48 PM
Oh that's just eeeevil. I said happy words from FF'ers, no bloody probers 'ere :D No, really. That was evil. My brain is confused. But I'm going for the FF anyway. :)

haze015
18-03-2004, 06:07 PM
Oh that's just eeeevil. I said happy words from FF'ers, no bloody probers 'ere :D No, really. That was evil. My brain is confused. But I'm going for the FF anyway. :)

Ah well, anyway you get the same sounds from a Probe as you do from a FF, but you don't have to bend over to control the Stab knob, which is great thing, plus Probes attract girls, FFs don't

Krasnojarsk
18-03-2004, 06:11 PM
Probes attract girls, FFs don't

Yeah, so I've heard, I'll just have to rely on my guitar playing :D

haze015
18-03-2004, 06:14 PM
Yeah, so I've heard, I'll just have to rely on my guitar playing :D

Good luck, girls never took any interest in my playing until I got my Probe, anyway its your money, get what you want, I'll just try to influence your decision as much as possible

haze015
18-03-2004, 06:26 PM
Yeah, so I've heard, I'll just have to rely on my guitar playing :D

Good luck, girls never took any interest in my playing until I got my Probe, anyway its your money, get what you want, I'll just try to influence your decision as much as possible

Krasnojarsk
18-03-2004, 06:56 PM
Yeah, cheers for doing that really, I'll prolly get a Probe in the future, but I desperateky need fuzz now, so... :rolleyes:

Krasnojarsk
18-03-2004, 07:05 PM
Oh a merging, great! Sorry, didn't think of this thread.

Krasnojarsk
20-03-2004, 01:31 PM
OK, hazy, have it your way, I'm buying a Probe this autumn. :) Cheers! :D

MicroWavesMeInsane
21-03-2004, 11:42 PM
Live it`s definatly the FF, on the "crunch" channel of the Diezel I believe. In studio I think he experiments and uses what`s best for the particular song.

Well wouldn't that make the Amps Distortion his main Distortion?
The FF just over the top of the crunch..

agitatedbells
22-03-2004, 12:00 PM
Well wouldn't that make the Amps Distortion his main Distortion?
The FF just over the top of the crunch..

no wot i think that would do is just add to the distortion, i think he turns the gain on the crunch channel down so that its actually pretty clean until you start hammering the strings, gives that bite, similar to hyper music intro live, it means that its clean, but if he hammers the strings its more overdriven

rza_008
22-03-2004, 12:19 PM
hey
did matt actually stick his ff onto the side of his guitar before having it built in? anyone got a pic by any chance?
i personally don't find the need to have it built into a guitar or stuck on the side of my guitar, if i want feedback i just alter the volume control, not that fussy really

Cerpin
22-03-2004, 02:26 PM
The diezel has like four channels, clean, crunch, distortion, MENTAL distortion.
The FF sounds really good on a crunch channel, so I can understand that he uses that one.

And yeah, I believe he used to stick some of his effects to his guitar before he got the Mansons :)

GaelicRockStar
26-03-2004, 08:19 PM
I'm undecided on whether 2 get a FF or EHX Big Muff. Can d FF give u those great plunging noises matt makes everytime he slides his fingers down the fret board?

Cerpin
27-03-2004, 12:01 AM
I'm undecided on whether 2 get a FF or EHX Big Muff. Can d FF give u those great plunging noises matt makes everytime he slides his fingers down the fret board?

Yeah, I do that all the time now, it`s a cool tecnique that I got the hang of while using the FF. Now I can do it with almost any distortion. I thought it was a thing that was Matt`s, but it turns out almost all guitarists use that. For me, it`s become a habit now, lol.

Alysum
27-03-2004, 04:16 AM
Hey, I'je just mooved to Sydney with my guitar and I have to get a new 15W amp. What would u suggest ? Marshall CDR ?

FunBags
27-03-2004, 08:15 AM
ive only had it two weeks and it has been working fine, but now it just doesnt work, i think its the battery but the bit of paper that came with it said that he hasnt changed the battery in 3 years, arh!

Biblical
27-03-2004, 10:15 AM
thats probably why

Alysum
27-03-2004, 10:22 AM
lol 3 years it's sure the battery

PS : you should ask in the FF sticky thread ;)

Hypermusician
27-03-2004, 12:38 PM
The batteries only last for 3 years if you unplug the input cable every time you finish using it, and if your cables arent dodgy.

Cerpin
27-03-2004, 01:22 PM
The Vox pathfinder is great, so is the Vox Brian May amp. Or what about an Orange Crush 15W ?

Citezen Erased
27-03-2004, 05:55 PM
so because matt uses his crunch channel do you think i shoud use the line 6 spider 2s crunch(models a marshall plexi, should i use the 100 or 50 watt) with fuzz to get the best sound

Cerpin
27-03-2004, 06:54 PM
That might get you a "matt-ish" sound. A word of advice, bring along your gitar and fuzz to the shop, and try the amp with those. You don`t want to buy the amp, take it home, only to find out it sounds shit with your gear.

idoldemon
29-03-2004, 01:15 PM
my thoughts about ff:
sounds different in combination with different guitars,amps
some amps make it sound really good,others make it sound really bad
thats main problem with it and the reason why i dont use it anymore

Cerpin
29-03-2004, 02:21 PM
my thoughts about ff:
sounds different in combination with different guitars,amps
some amps make it sound really good,others make it sound really bad
thats main problem with it and the reason why i dont use it anymore

Too bad :( It sounds great with Orange Amps (and most other valve amps for that matter), especially on high gain settings.

Alysum
30-03-2004, 06:54 AM
I finally got my FF. And my head hurts !
It's the finest sound for plug in baby, all on 7 (clock), increase comp then Stab to get that cool sound :D

But I can't get the right sound for the rest of Muse songs especially Citizen Erased, can't hear the harmonics.
Someone suggested the Hi Compression fuzz setting but when I do that at the end of the note sound it goes PrrrBBRRppp like a big fart lol.

So what setting should I use for CE ? :(

Cerpin
30-03-2004, 05:39 PM
I finally got my FF. And my head hurts !
It's the finest sound for plug in baby, all on 7 (clock), increase comp then Stab to get that cool sound :D

But I can't get the right sound for the rest of Muse songs especially Citizen Erased, can't hear the harmonics.
Someone suggested the Hi Compression fuzz setting but when I do that at the end of the note sound it goes PrrrBBRRppp like a big fart lol.

So what setting should I use for CE ? :(

Depends on your axe. I use this one.

Volume: Whatever you prefer

Gate : 7

Comp : around 3. Just enough to make the hissing go away

Drive : 2-3-4 (depends on how much distortion you want)

Stab : 5

no3chris
30-03-2004, 08:15 PM
I finally got my FF. And my head hurts !
It's the finest sound for plug in baby, all on 7 (clock), increase comp then Stab to get that cool sound :D

But I can't get the right sound for the rest of Muse songs especially Citizen Erased, can't hear the harmonics.
Someone suggested the Hi Compression fuzz setting but when I do that at the end of the note sound it goes PrrrBBRRppp like a big fart lol.

So what setting should I use for CE ? :(

u wont get it to sound like CE , he dosnt use his fuzz for that

agitatedbells
31-03-2004, 05:13 PM
actually he does, the album version is the silver manson tuned down

but live he uses amp distortion, so for just one song use that, may as well

no3chris
01-04-2004, 09:18 PM
actually he does, the album version is the silver manson tuned down

but live he uses amp distortion, so for just one song use that, may as well

i know that, but from my ears that dosnt sound liek a fuzz to me, well certainly not all of it.. maybe i jsut dont know anything

Alysum
02-04-2004, 02:10 AM
no that's true Matt doesn't uses his FF for C.E he uses his amp overdrive channel. That's ok cause I have the Jackhammer distorsion.

But for songs like Dead star, New Born, etc.. can't get the right sound. What a complicated effect ZVex has made !

Cerpin
02-04-2004, 09:15 AM
That may be his acoustic pickups or motherbucker. They are a huge part of his sound.

Cerpin
02-04-2004, 11:04 PM
Fuck, the radio noises on my FF have suddenly become very annoying. They werent so apparent before! Is something wrong with it? Maybe it`s faulty cables..

GaelicRockStar
03-04-2004, 01:00 PM
Where did u guys order yer FFs? I have money 2 get 1 but my dad won't buy it with his credit card from d sites I've seen it for sale on. They don't look professional and my dad is afraid he will be robbed lol. He lemme get an amp from www.music123.com cause dat looks official. http://www.musictoyz.com/guitar/pedals/zvex1.php looks fairly genuine, anybody got 1 from there?

Cerpin
03-04-2004, 03:19 PM
Musictoyz are great. They have good prices too :)

GaelicRockStar
03-04-2004, 07:35 PM
how long does shipping take?

Alysum
05-04-2004, 12:28 AM
pretty quick, mine took 3 open days to france

Palo Alto
06-04-2004, 05:01 PM
Hey all hope your fine,

Ive been looking up the Fuzz Probe, as I heard that it's meant to be better than the actually F.Factory, as you can control the stab through the copper plating. This sounds dead cool, but i was wondering, if anyone here has one, doesnt the copper plating get to be a bitch as i heard you cant have your foot near it if you dont want the squeal.

Thing is I think i might invest in one after the summer, and I was seeing if its ok to have it in a crowded pedal board, especially when I would be looming over the pedal board all the time when I'm gigging.

Cheers

Luke

P.S. I've heard thats its meant to be really 'squeally', and like squeeling all the time, just making sure - you can actually hear what your playing, yeah? Just making sure if this is an overstatement by reviewers in Harmony Central and Mr. Vex

Dead*Star
06-04-2004, 08:41 PM
..until I bought it, I was asking myself the same question...
but the fuzz probe, will squeal only when you turn down the volume on your guitar, and if you go feedbacking..
So there are no problems, you can move your foot over your pedal board without affecting the antenna...when you want start probing, just turn the volume down, and move your feet over the copper plate...
anyway the fuzz probe squeal only at certain settings..with other settings if you lower the volume you cant probe...
..I think it is the best pedal I ever had...

Hope this could help you..
if you have other question ask me...

that's all
mark

Chris11115
06-04-2004, 08:42 PM
I haven't tried one myself, but check out the videos at zvex site, they've just stuck a load of them up for each pedal.

http://www.zvex.com/videos.html

Palo Alto
06-04-2004, 09:20 PM
Thats helped alot Dead Star mate, you've made up my mind its on my target list

Cheers bud

haze015
06-04-2004, 09:23 PM
It's simple, if you have the money and is willing to spend it, buy the Fuzz Probe, best christmas present I ever received.
If your playing the guitar and you put your foot over the probe, it does this really cool synthy sound that is very hard to describe, but very cool.
Also if you start playing around with the toggle switch while using the probe for some squeling, you get a really cool sound which is like a tremolo effect on the squeal.

If you want I can record myself pissing around with it, showing off what it can do, but not tonight because it will annoy my parents, just add me to msn and I'll send the recording to you

H8
06-04-2004, 09:30 PM
I built one of these bitches into a customers guitar in Jan. I hid the copper plate behind the scratchplate and put the control pots in the cut-out pointing up the neck.

Now I did warn him before I installed it that it would be real hard to get used to but would he have it? no. It didn't take me too long actually so I spent a couple of days messin around with it. I think it's just the kind of application mr V intended for it :)

Happy days!

Gman
06-04-2004, 09:33 PM
I have a fuzz factory built into my guitar, activated by two little black knobs just under the bridge. Stick a delay effect and it sounds like a flying saucer!! It is so fun.

ER

Alysum
06-04-2004, 11:11 PM
Does a Delay make the FF sound all that better ?

MicroWavesMeInsane
07-04-2004, 12:31 AM
I haven't tried one myself, but check out the videos at zvex site, they've just stuck a load of them up for each pedal.

http://www.zvex.com/videos.html

The Fuzz Probe videos pretty cool but the Fuzz Factory one wont work..

haze015
07-04-2004, 02:46 PM
I've recorded myself using the Probe for you Luke. Incase you still want it, anyone else interested, just add me to MSN and I'll send it to you

Palo Alto
07-04-2004, 09:12 PM
Cool beanz mate I'll catch you on msn soon :cool:

no3chris
08-04-2004, 01:20 PM
jsut listen to the lastest version of newborn live, the interlude just before the guitar riff is ff with delay...

In_Your_World
08-04-2004, 01:45 PM
Im having a bit o trouble with my fuzz. ive tried a million different types of fuzz but it still sounds like its farting!!!!!! when i play chords it sounds like when u play chords with a whammy, the notes are all unclear and muffled... what am i doing wrong!

haze015
08-04-2004, 04:00 PM
Im having a bit o trouble with my fuzz. ive tried a million different types of fuzz but it still sounds like its farting!!!!!! when i play chords it sounds like when u play chords with a whammy, the notes are all unclear and muffled... what am i doing wrong!

Try maxing out the Stab, lose some Comp and Gate

In_Your_World
08-04-2004, 04:58 PM
My current setting is
Gate - 8:30
Comp - 11:30
Drive - 11:30
Stab - 5:00

and if you for example play an f-minor barre chord then the the lower notes are very fuzzy and growly and the higher notes are unclear.

haze015
08-04-2004, 05:02 PM
Lower the volume on the guitar then

Hypermusician
08-04-2004, 06:11 PM
Lower the volume on the guitar then

Yeah, you're totally right about that. I'm not sure if it's because my pickups are shit or not, but turning my guitar pickup volume down to around 7 makes the FF sound soooo much better.

In_Your_World
08-04-2004, 06:19 PM
i tried that earlier and from 1-9.5 then the guitar is very tinny and lightly distorted and then if i turn it to ten then it suddenly full on distorts!

anybody got a good setting for cave live on hullabaloo?

haze015
08-04-2004, 08:21 PM
Yeah, you're totally right about that. I'm not sure if it's because my pickups are shit or not, but turning my guitar pickup volume down to around 7 makes the FF sound soooo much better.

I agree with that, it does sound so much better, well if the Drive is set quite high, low its really tinny.

Try:

Stab - Full
Drive - Full
Comp - None
Gate - None

Then lower the guitar volume, absolutely gorgeous, really good for Hyper Music

In_Your_World
09-04-2004, 09:27 PM
Cool thanks for that. Ive got that setting but with comp on 8 o' clock, Drive on 3 o' clock and i find that if i turn the volume on the fuzz to 12 o 'clock then it gets a far better sound!

Alysum
09-04-2004, 11:54 PM
I agree with that, it does sound so much better, well if the Drive is set quite high, low its really tinny.

Try:

Stab - Full
Drive - Full
Comp - None
Gate - None

Then lower the guitar volume, absolutely gorgeous, really good for Hyper Music
it's awfull that setting ! makes a terrible noise, cant play...

Biblical
10-04-2004, 12:09 AM
500 saved

GaelicRockStar
10-04-2004, 12:56 PM
I was looking at the vid for the fuzz probe and it looks really cool but do you have to have your foot near it for the fuzz to be active or is there some little switch u press to have it constantly on like the fuzz factory. I'd imagine if u had to play a song that needed the fuzz for the whole song like The Groove it would be a pain in the ass standing with your foot angled over the probe for the whole thing

agitatedbells
11-04-2004, 09:56 AM
theres a footswitch

GaelicRockStar
11-04-2004, 01:51 PM
ahh cool, so its basically the same as the fuzz factory except it has the probe aswell which will mean I won't have to tape the pedal to my guitar to play with the nobs which I was planning to do if I had gotten the fuzz factory

kuz
11-04-2004, 03:50 PM
with the probe, its the same as the fuzz factory except when you put your foot closer to the probe it increases the stab. you can have the stab set at 2:00, stomp on it, keep it at 2:00, then slowly move your foot closer to the probe part to increase it up to 5:00, move your foot away to return to 2:00. if you have the stabset at 5:00 the probe part does nothing at all, its set as high as it can.
hope that makes a little sense :D

haze015
11-04-2004, 03:53 PM
it's awfull that setting ! makes a terrible noise, cant play...

It depends on the kind of pick ups your using, if your moaning about the hiss, then you really are a pussy and shouldn't have a FF

MicroWavesMeInsane
16-04-2004, 10:55 PM
So basically the Probe is the same as the Factory... but better.....
Right?

Cerpin
16-04-2004, 10:59 PM
It`s the same. Better or not depends on what you want from it. I chose the FF because it`s so small, and I dont use those weird effects mid-song.

GaelicRockStar
17-04-2004, 01:43 PM
I don't have either but I'm guessing the probe is the alternative to having the knobs like wot matt has on his guitar. Instead of twisting them around mid-song making noises u put ur foot nearer... is that right?

haze015
17-04-2004, 10:17 PM
So basically the Probe is the same as the Factory... but better.....
Right?

Yep, it most certainly is, FFs are for Matt wannabe's, Fuzz Probe's are for true maniacs

0oS
17-04-2004, 11:15 PM
I wanted to buy a toneworks pandora AX 1500 this summer, but now its gonna be a fuzz probe(even if it costs me 50 more)

Citezen Erased
18-04-2004, 11:22 AM
i think paranoid is right you don't need to do all the feddbacky stuff midsong that much anyway. and the fuzz factory is smaller so it means you have a smaller pedal board.

haze015
18-04-2004, 11:53 AM
i think paranoid is right you don't need to do all the feddbacky stuff midsong that much anyway. and the fuzz factory is smaller so it means you have a smaller pedal board.

It's nice to have the option to though, plus with the Fuzz Probe, you don't have to be feedbacking all the time, just like a Fuzz Factory, I just think a Fuzz Probe is better

MicroWavesMeInsane
18-04-2004, 11:35 PM
U can do all that weirs stuff with the Factory though right?

YellowSphere
19-04-2004, 07:04 AM
While we're on the subject of the probe, how to you turn it on with your foot without putting your foot in the way of the probey bit and making a sound with it? Do you have to stand sideways on to it or something? How practical!

Cerpin
19-04-2004, 07:43 AM
Yep, it most certainly is, FFs are for Matt wannabe's, Fuzz Probe's are for true maniacs

Actually, I bought mine because many people said it could get you a similar overdrive/fuzz tone to the one that Omar Rodriguez has. I love that sound (and all of my "custom" fuzzes), so the FF is perfect for me.

haze015
19-04-2004, 06:02 PM
While we're on the subject of the probe, how to you turn it on with your foot without putting your foot in the way of the probey bit and making a sound with it? Do you have to stand sideways on to it or something? How practical!

Not necessarily, you can change how high the antenna reaches, so it can go from varying weight on the copper plate to I don't know, probably reaching into space judging by Zvex products.
It's easier to use than you think, try one and see

Clotho
19-04-2004, 06:43 PM
is the distortion on TSP the fuzz factory, or other ?

Alysum
21-04-2004, 08:47 AM
I'm sure it's the FF

Alysum
22-04-2004, 04:56 AM
damm what setting do u use for plug in baby ?
By using Comp and Stab, the sequeezing noise makes it impossible to hear the guitar notes lol

haze015
22-04-2004, 02:09 PM
damm what setting do u use for plug in baby ?
By using Comp and Stab, the sequeezing noise makes it impossible to hear the guitar notes lol

It's the radio fuzz preset on the instruction sheet

Alysum
23-04-2004, 12:10 PM
hmmm how much stab do u put ?

haze015
23-04-2004, 05:00 PM
hmmm how much stab do u put ?

Where ever you want

donbenjy
29-04-2004, 08:53 PM
There is a difference between using gear that an artist uses because it`s quality stuff, and you like the sound/effect etc, and using gear JUST BECAUSE AN ARTIST USES IT. I have both a fuzz factory and a whammy, but I don`t use them blindly because Matt does. As a long time player, and famous artist I would presume he would choose quality gear, and that gear happens to be something that I would be interessted in. For example, the Fuzz Factory is a INCREDIBLY versatile distortion box, you can get hundreds of sounds out of it. I use it because it gives me that smooth, fuzzy, overdrive, and with the twist of a volume knob full on hyper-distortion. Who wouldnt want that, muse fan or not? I think it`s great that you can get into gear via your favorite artists, but if you just copy them because you want to be like them you shouldnt be playing guitar anyway.

hey, ive got nowhere near enough for a fuzz factory but how exactly does it work? its only got one switch and 5 knobs so can you only have one setting at a time and have to kneel down on stage to change it except from on/off?

Noodles
30-04-2004, 02:38 PM
hey, ive got nowhere near enough for a fuzz factory but how exactly does it work? its only got one switch and 5 knobs so can you only have one setting at a time and have to kneel down on stage to change it except from on/off?


It`s just a distortion pedal...you dont have presets you switch the distortion on or off, thats it.
It just has more knobs that most do. Volume, Noise Gate, Compression, Drive and stability...it`s really hard to tell you what they each do because there are many different combinations.
There are sound demos and a good video here Zvex.com (www.zvex.com)

To get it to make some of the noises matt does mid song though, you`d have to fiddle with the knobs...that means either kneeling down...or having it built into your guitar which is what he did. (After having fuzz pedals gaffa`d to the body of his old ones)

no3chris
01-05-2004, 08:10 AM
i havnt looked at a pic of matts guitars to justify this but ive been thinking for a while does he have a switch to turn on the stab on?? *or wotever it is that makes oscillation* cause it gets annoying leaving it on throughout a whole song ?

Noodles
01-05-2004, 11:12 AM
i havnt looked at a pic of matts guitars to justify this but ive been thinking for a while does he have a switch to turn on the stab on?? *or wotever it is that makes oscillation* cause it gets annoying leaving it on throughout a whole song ?

If you look at the knobs on the back, you`ll see some little switches too.
http://img6.photobucket.com/albums/v16/Noodles_iceman/Silve.jpg
I think one will be for the fuzz factory on/off one for the piezo pickups on/off...and one for phase 90 on/off, and an adjustment knob for each.

The three little knobs at the bottom are for tone and volume.
The switch on the horn is the on/off kill switch for the guitar, so he can toggle the signal on or off at will, or filck it up and down really fast for crazy cool sound. :)

To make the fuzz factory oscillation noise, he`d just turn it on with the switch and adjust the knob. Since most things make a fuzz factory oscillate, he doesnt need access to all 5 knobs.

The black and laser manson are the same, except the black one has a wah probe on the lower horn and a midi strip above the pickups.
The chrome manson doesnt have a fuzz factory I think. (might not have been enough space due to the tremolo cavity) but it also has the midi strip.

YellowSphere
01-05-2004, 11:15 AM
It doesn't make the screamy sound while he is playing, listen to a live version of plug in baby and he uses the feedback inbetween sections as a fill to the next, but never turns it off as he uses it for the distortion.

no3chris
01-05-2004, 05:48 PM
It doesn't make the screamy sound while he is playing, listen to a live version of plug in baby and he uses the feedback inbetween sections as a fill to the next, but never turns it off as he uses it for the distortion.

yea, thats what i mean :-)...well sort of lol

YellowSphere
01-05-2004, 07:46 PM
he probably flicks the stab all the way down just before he starts playing actually...

aah, the good ol' stability knob, how could we live without it?

kuz
01-05-2004, 08:57 PM
he doesnt turn it completely down. in some of the live vids of plug in baby that i have, the FF starts to self oscillate at the end of each note he plays in the first half of each verse (i.e. B/A/A#/B). theyre aboot a bar long for each note, as he lets each one ring, and it oscillates just at the end of each bar.

YellowSphere
01-05-2004, 09:06 PM
aboot, lol

this is not aboot anything!
i love that movie

haze015
01-05-2004, 10:03 PM
It doesn't make the screamy sound while he is playing, listen to a live version of plug in baby and he uses the feedback inbetween sections as a fill to the next, but never turns it off as he uses it for the distortion.

Thats because the volume is up full, if it was not, then the squeal would continue while he is playing, but it would be annoying because he can't control while playing you can with a Fuzz Probe and he would have the same note going the whole time

YellowSphere
01-05-2004, 10:05 PM
im sure that would make perfect sense if i had the pedal

haze015
01-05-2004, 10:10 PM
im sure that would make perfect sense if i had the pedal

Well if you did, when you set the FF/FP to squeal, the volume knob on the guitar acts as a blend control for the squeal and the guitar, if its all the way up, then when you play a note, the squeal will go, pretty much like how you described PIB live, if the volume was not up full, then both the squeal and the guitar note can be heard at the same time

YellowSphere
01-05-2004, 10:15 PM
sweet. I must get the pedal. Apparently its really worth buying a [zvex] machine and putting them next to one another.

haze015
01-05-2004, 10:18 PM
sweet. I must get the pedal. Apparently its really worth buying a [zvex] machine and putting them next to one another.

I want one of them as well, fucking great pedal, I might try milking Zvex for a free one

YellowSphere
01-05-2004, 10:20 PM
lol, good luck.
they can charge even more for the machine aswell, cause of the fact its the only one of its kind, it sounds amazing though, i just watched the video on the zvex website

haze015
01-05-2004, 10:22 PM
lol, good luck.
they can charge even more for the machine aswell, cause of the fact its the only one of its kind, it sounds amazing though, i just watched the video on the zvex website

I have a very unique Fuzz Probe so I might get away with it

YellowSphere
01-05-2004, 10:25 PM
wouldnt that be a reason NOT to get away with it, you already have something unique...

Dramatic Hammer
01-05-2004, 10:36 PM
I have a very unique Fuzz Probe so I might get away with it
Nooooooooo chance.

randombaz
02-05-2004, 07:32 AM
i'm thinking of getting the fuzz probe...but when i write my songs and perform live, i dont want to be known as a muse rip off (like muse were a "radiohead ripoff")...im worried that muse have been known for that style and thats that!

the fuzz probe video is great....right at the end, it sounds like the exact start to one of the plug in baby live versions

also say your using your foot to change the sound depedning on distance...how do you turn this pedal off without a change in sound, as i've read that question but not any answer in this forum

also how cheap can you get them? i havent seen prices discussed here (unless im stupid or rushed through)...it seems between 150 and 170?

thanks

haze015
02-05-2004, 10:13 AM
Fuzz Probes are 289 in the UK

You won't sound anything like Muse if you get one, although PIB is really easy to get since its one of the presets on the instruction sheet.

BTW Zvex has already offered to send me free stuff because of my Fuzz Probe, I might be cheeky and try to get a free pedal as well

Krasnojarsk
02-05-2004, 10:57 AM
Free stuff cause of the Probe? Like what? I'm ordering a Probe in a few days, so it'd be cool to know :)

haze015
02-05-2004, 12:56 PM
Free stuff cause of the Probe? Like what? I'm ordering a Probe in a few days, so it'd be cool to know :)

He refused to give me one, my Fuzz Probe is the only Zvex pedal never to be signed or dated by Zvex, I only have the Myrold signature on it, also it is Sparkly Green, which is a limited edition version of the standard green Fuzz Probe, so in a way, you'll never find another one like mine, it also sounds different to another Probe I have played.

I'm getting a T-shirt, buttons and stickers from Zvex though

Krasnojarsk
02-05-2004, 01:40 PM
Oh cool :) Hope mine is some nifty colour as well :) So you and I will be the only Probe owners here then?

haze015
02-05-2004, 02:31 PM
Theres two other people on here that have one, both called Mark

Krasnojarsk
02-05-2004, 03:20 PM
Cool! Mark, Mark, Hazy and Pelle :D

haze015
02-05-2004, 03:25 PM
Cool! Mark, Mark, Hazy and Pelle :D

The Fuzz Probe crew :cool:

*Reservoir Dogs intro theme music*

Surely there are more Probers on this board?

What colour is yours going to be?

Krasnojarsk
02-05-2004, 03:26 PM
No idea, ordering off the net, hope I'll be surprised! :D (even though I'm boring and like the green ones...well, sparkly ones are class too :D )

What's your name then? I'm not calling you hazy no more :D

haze015
02-05-2004, 03:33 PM
No idea, ordering off the net, hope I'll be surprised! :D (even though I'm boring and like the green ones...well, sparkly ones are class too :D )

What's your name then? I'm not calling you hazy no more :D

David Hazel, I'm more used to being called Haze though

Here's my Fuzz Probe in all its sparkly glory:

http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/v161/haze015/P4270105Resized.jpg

Krasnojarsk
02-05-2004, 03:37 PM
Aaaargh my eyes, my eyes! :D Now that's some beautiful sparkling, now I know why people like sparkles! :D

Oh, so it's Haze then. Cool :)

Just a little question, just to keep this thread a bit on topic, isn't it harder to play around with the controls and experiment when the knobs are positioned like that? Or do you put it with them facing upwards when trying out new sounds?

haze015
02-05-2004, 03:40 PM
Aaaargh my eyes, my eyes! :D Now that's some beautiful sparkling, now I know why people like sparkles! :D

Oh, so it's Haze then. Cool :)

Just a little question, just to keep this thread a bit on topic, isn't it harder to play around with the controls and experiment when the knobs are positioned like that? Or do you put it with them facing upwards when trying out new sounds?

Its strange at first, you get used to it after a while, I prefer it like that because you don't have to be careful where you put your feet to turn it on and off

Krasnojarsk
02-05-2004, 03:44 PM
Makes sense, cheers :)

0oS
02-05-2004, 08:41 PM
Surely there are more Probers on this board?


I'll join in the summer(after I beat down a sickness,don't ask, and have enough money)
+ I hope to find some talented players to form a band(no muse-like band, a velvet revolver-like band)

btw. haze, your probe looks sweet :D

Dramatic Hammer
02-05-2004, 08:48 PM
Surely there are more Probers on this board?



Should you be asking that sort of question?

Clotho
03-05-2004, 12:33 AM
David Hazel, I'm more used to being called Haze though

Here's my Fuzz Probe in all its sparkly glory:

http://img53.photobucket.com/albums/v161/haze015/P4270105Resized.jpg

oooo, you're the one with the sparkly probe matt (old man pidgeon) sent me the pic of it when i wastrying to figure out if my factory is sparkly or not.. it isn't :rolleyes:

Killing In The Name
03-05-2004, 03:52 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=22669&item=3721323765&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Just thought i'd bring this to your attention. The amount of people asking for a FF, this is bound to do some good...

kev
03-05-2004, 06:21 PM
i guess the reason you posted it as a new thread was that it would get more attention and be helpful to people, but way i see it most folk probably read this thread when they see there's a new post, especially people who are interested in buying a ff. just thought i'd explain my actions just trying to keep things running neater.

Killing In The Name
04-05-2004, 09:03 PM
i guess the reason you posted it as a new thread was that it would get more attention and be helpful to people, but way i see it most folk probably read this thread when they see there's a new post, especially people who are interested in buying a ff. just thought i'd explain my actions just trying to keep things running neater.

Heh, i would've put it in here myself if i didnt forget that it existed...

MicroWavesMeInsane
05-05-2004, 12:38 AM
e-bays not that good..
At the moment there's a FF currently on 132 (1d left) and one on 155 (6d left)..
Totally pointless as you can get a brand new one for bout 120.

YellowSphere
05-05-2004, 05:53 PM
where from?

MicroWavesMeInsane
05-05-2004, 09:48 PM
There $220 on Buzzfox.com, thats roughly 120..

haze015
06-05-2004, 02:48 PM
There $220 on Buzzfox.com, thats roughly 120..

Then add 4% to that for import tax, then a further 17.5% to that for VAT, which makes it around 150, then there is delivery costs...

MicroWavesMeInsane
06-05-2004, 11:37 PM
Still a lot cheaper than paying 180 (not including P&P) for one on e-bay..
Just like someone has just done.

Alysum
07-05-2004, 01:18 AM
I have problems with my FF, the batterry empties itself in 2 weeks !!

randombaz
07-05-2004, 07:56 AM
hey...im considering getting a fuzz probe from america. can someone who actually def. knows about this answer help please:

what price does it come to?! i have the pedal price...do i have to pay paypal anything?....import tax....vat...?

pedal is $289....if 4% import tax (is that right?) added....$300.56.......then 17.5% added for VAT.....$353.16

then is that the complete price that is taken out my bank using paypal, or am i wrong, or is there anything else?



thanks for your help

randombaz
07-05-2004, 08:53 AM
ok i learnt VAT doesnt come into it, its the pedal cost and delivery...and then perhaps import tax, which is.......4-6%?

haze015
07-05-2004, 09:11 AM
ok i learnt VAT doesnt come into it, its the pedal cost and delivery...and then perhaps import tax, which is.......4-6%?

You do have to pay VAT as well as import tax and shipping costs.

Also I have never seen a Fuzz Probe for $289, the cheapest I've found it is $299, which works out at 167.34.

Then add 4% import tax - 174.03

Then VAT at 17.5% - 204.50

Then there is shipping costs, so your looking at paying 250 for it, which is what I paid for mine and I bought it in the UK, plus I got to try it first in the shop to see if I liked it and a choice of different colours, I had to pay an extra 10 for Sparkly Green, I could have got a normal one for 239, so your not saving money buying from the USA

randombaz
07-05-2004, 09:52 AM
they dont have VAT in america, they have there own tax

haze015
07-05-2004, 10:10 AM
they dont have VAT in america, they have there own tax

If you live in the UK, you have to pay import tax and VAT if you import something to the UK.

randombaz
07-05-2004, 10:37 AM
i think they class it as a gift, so does that knock off VAT? i'll have to look it up

haze015
07-05-2004, 10:49 AM
i think they class it as a gift, so does that knock off VAT? i'll have to look it up

They won't class it as a gift, the shop might if you ask them, but don't expect them to though, I still it is a silly idea to buy a pedal you've never tried before.

randombaz
07-05-2004, 10:59 AM
he said he will, i e-mailed him about it. i wouldnt think twice about not trying-i just get the pedal because i really want it and i've heard its good, and get it home. i then have whats in front of me to create songs. its just hw i deal with things, and its what i'll do with the fuzz probe

haze015
07-05-2004, 02:57 PM
he said he will, i e-mailed him about it. i wouldnt think twice about not trying-i just get the pedal because i really want it and i've heard its good, and get it home. i then have whats in front of me to create songs. its just hw i deal with things, and its what i'll do with the fuzz probe

Thats OK with cheap pedals, but I don't recommend it with a pedal that has a list price of $419 in the States, although it is a great pedal and I'll be amazed if you were disappointed with it

randombaz
07-05-2004, 05:15 PM
yeh thanks...i got it from ebay.com new from an authorised dealer, for $289

now i have delivery, import tax, and VAT. but its cheaper than the fuzz probe on ebay.co.uk

YellowSphere
07-05-2004, 07:01 PM
They won't class it as a gift, the shop might if you ask them, but don't expect them to though, I still it is a silly idea to buy a pedal you've never tried before.

if he doesn't like it ill have it! :LOL: :LOL:

Dramatic Hammer
07-05-2004, 08:21 PM
I still it is a silly idea to buy a pedal you've never tried before.

A sound idea in theory but if you want boutique pedals, it's highly unlikely that your local music shops will have them. In this case I think it's fine to buy something you've never tried out as you will have done your research (reviews, clips etc) and shouldn't be disapointed.

Alysum
08-05-2004, 04:47 AM
hey how long does ur battery last ?

GaelicRockStar
08-05-2004, 11:05 AM
Re: Probe
If you're trying to switch it off do u not get all swooshy sounds before your foot reaches the bypass switch because it is directly above the probe?

haze015
08-05-2004, 01:32 PM
Re: Probe
If you're trying to switch it off do u not get all swooshy sounds before your foot reaches the bypass switch because it is directly above the probe?

No, unless you really want to, the antenna only reaches up a couple of inches at the most (with the factory setting anyway). It not as big a problem as you lot make it out to be

randombaz
08-05-2004, 02:21 PM
i just ordered a fuzz probe new from a dealer on ebay.com for $314. hopefully import tax and VAT won't be much, but i cant wait to try it out! :D

Noodles
08-05-2004, 02:27 PM
hey how long does ur battery last ?

(If you`re talking about the factory not the probe)
I think Mr Vex said his prototype has had the same battery for 3 years in it. :eek: It`s supposed to very power ecomical, less that 10% of what some stompboxes take.
As long as you make sure it`s switched off and you take the jack leads out when you`re done, it should last AGES!(Mine does.....it`s the only bit of kit I can bare using batteries with) :D

haze015
08-05-2004, 02:27 PM
i just ordered a fuzz probe new from a dealer on ebay.com for $314. hopefully import tax and VAT won't be much, but i cant wait to try it out! :D

Just add 4% to the price you paid (when you've converted into pounds of course) then to that price add a further 17.5% then you have the price your paying, then there is shipping costs

MicroWavesMeInsane
08-05-2004, 03:50 PM
Just add 4% to the price you paid (when you've converted into pounds of course) then to that price add a further 17.5% then you have the price your paying, then there is shipping costs

It's not, I e-mailed the same guy..
I'm pretty sure $314 is the total price..

Noodles
08-05-2004, 03:53 PM
It's not, I e-mailed the same guy..
I'm pretty sure $314 is the total price..

Only if he paid duty on it. :(
Better to be safe than sorry.
Just have up to 40 pounds on standby, ...it`s not nice when you open the door to the postie and he hits you for the customs money on your doorstep.

MicroWavesMeInsane
08-05-2004, 03:55 PM
It's Randombaz that's gotta watch out for the post-man..

haze015
08-05-2004, 04:54 PM
It's not, I e-mailed the same guy..
I'm pretty sure $314 is the total price..

Well according to a government website on duties and customs, you do have to pay import tax (4%) and VAT (17.5%), otherwise you are breaking the law, so you'll have your Fuzz Probe confiscated and have a huge fine to pay instead

randombaz
08-05-2004, 05:28 PM
well its actually a "gift" to me, so import tax is dropped. but i have enough money to cover it not. its cheaper to do it that way from america anyway...getting it new here is stupid...one place from zvex. i saw was selling it for 289 delivered. too pricey

I*Just*Kinda*Died*For*You
08-05-2004, 06:23 PM
I bought a fuzz probe from Buzzfox.com and it arrived yesterday. I had bought another pedal with it, so when the guy arrived at the door he hit me with an 84 customs charge. I was expecting there to be a charge on it but not just as high as that. In the long run it works out about 50 cheaper than buying it from the UK.

If you can get one for 250 on eBay and the like, I would recommend that as it will work out about the same as buying it in from America/Canada

haze015
08-05-2004, 09:22 PM
well its actually a "gift" to me, so import tax is dropped. but i have enough money to cover it not. its cheaper to do it that way from america anyway...getting it new here is stupid...one place from zvex. i saw was selling it for 289 delivered. too pricey

Mine was 249, you have to haggle with places to get the best prices

randombaz
09-05-2004, 01:32 AM
lol yeh im no good at haggeling. or however it's spelt

I*Just*Kinda*Died*For*You
10-05-2004, 04:47 PM
Theres a new Fuzz Probe on ebay for 250 if anyone's interested.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3723546722

haze015
10-05-2004, 04:55 PM
Theres a new Fuzz Probe on ebay for 250 if anyone's interested.


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3723546722

The conning bastard, I paid that for mine BRAND NEW and mine is not the standard colour of a Fuzz Probe either (Sparkly ones are more expensive)

randombaz
11-05-2004, 06:03 AM
doesnt seem like a bad deal, seems ok actually. probes r hard to get cheap in this country, so then theres sorting out importing, which we discussed before. plus he said the pedals basically new anyway

andefeldt
11-05-2004, 11:44 AM
Hi,

Don't know if anybody asked this before, but here goes:

Has anyone tried building the FF into their own guitar, just like Matt's? I'm thinking about doing it. I want to buy the internal FF from mansons.co.uk (rather expensive I'm affraid, but it's the only place I've found with a internal FF + they make Matt's guitars :-) ). They wrote me, that it's not a simple operation, but I wanna ask around a little first and get more oppinions. Anyone tried it?

How many wires do you need to connect and rewire and stuff?

They don't have all the 5 knobs on the internal FF, only 2. Anyone knows which of the 5 from the external FF it uses? And does anyone know how they're connected to the print board (the knobs)?

Ok, a lot of questions that hopefully some of you can help me with. Ooh, just one more :-)

Does anybody know another place where they sell the internal FF besides mansons.co.uk?

randombaz
11-05-2004, 02:09 PM
ah, all hail copy cats, for they will be original one day 2...hopefully

the_realist
12-05-2004, 09:13 AM
Why would you want a FF that you can only use in one guitar ?!?

D.J.S.R
12-05-2004, 09:34 AM
so has anyone come up with any definative settings for a more absolution sound? i.e the live tour and that good stuff

andefeldt
12-05-2004, 12:49 PM
Why would you want a FF that you can only use in one guitar ?!?

To experiment :) I already have one guitar where I use a ton of other effects for. I always wanted to have a guitar with a build-in distortion and what can be better than a FF then? :cool:

randombaz
12-05-2004, 01:49 PM
well lets leave the copying thoughts aside. i considered that, im sure we all have, until it was pointed out that you cant use it on other guitars. now i only have one electric, and im not planning on buying another for ages. so thats why i decided to buy a fuzz probe...as much as a fuzz factory built into your guitar, probably, but you have it on your pedal board

and with it on your board, you can take it anywhere and use it with new/different guitars for various reasons...testing, using at other venues if your guitar fucks up, whatever. shit happens...dont put it all together

andefeldt
12-05-2004, 04:19 PM
I wanna have my FF build into my guitar! I'm sorry if that offends you!

I wanna have a guitar with build in distortion, so that I don't have to bring all my pedals everywhere. And I'm one of those people who loves screwing around with his guitar and sounds and settings while playing (did that long before Muse came out) and there's nothing more annoying to crawl around on the floor to mess up the sounds. Call me a copier, wannabe or whatever, but I've been having the idea for a long time (long before Muse) and now I finally have a chance to get something really cool build into a guitar.

So instead of just telling me not to do it, maybe try and help instead. And if you can't help with my questions, then just don't say anything.......

0oS
12-05-2004, 10:03 PM
search for pics of the manson wiring,maybe you could copy how it works,or something like that

Dramatic Hammer
13-05-2004, 09:22 AM
To be honest, I think that Mansons are just cashing in on their Muse association and ripping people off. There is no way it costs 200 to install the FF - anyone with the right bench-tools could do it in a few hours.
I would buy a FF first, see what you can do with it, then go to a local guitar shop and ask them to instal it if you cant. There is nothing tricky about the wireing - it's just in line between the pickups and jack socket.

the_realist
13-05-2004, 11:01 AM
I've had my FF a week now, and generally speaking I only use settings that don't squeal. However, it occured to me this morning while watching Plug-In Baby on the MTV2 concert that Matt's FF must be feedbacking throughout the song. If it wasn't, how else would he be able to make those crazy pitch-bending noises at the end of the chorus ? I think he only has 2 knobs on his Manson guitars to control the FF, so its unlikely that he would quickly find a feedbacking setting just that those few seconds.

I suppose having the FF feedbacking all the time is not a problem providing you're always playing something while it is switched on, but what are everyone elses' thoughts ?

Dramatic Hammer
13-05-2004, 11:23 AM
You can use the feedback as part of a riff, or just have the stab the whole way up then rol it down when you want feedback. :)

Noodles
13-05-2004, 11:33 AM
Tune the squeal to an A and play citizen erased, then you can get cool loud `A` beeps when you play the verse and pre-chorus stuff, I think i`ve heard Matt do it a few times live. It`s fun. ...just wierd having to be careful or you`ll squeal all the time.

I`m well aware my explanation is less than adequate, some people might know what I mean! :LOL:

andefeldt
13-05-2004, 12:05 PM
To be honest, I think that Mansons are just cashing in on their Muse association and ripping people off. There is no way it costs 200 to install the FF - anyone with the right bench-tools could do it in a few hours.
I would buy a FF first, see what you can do with it, then go to a local guitar shop and ask them to instal it if you cant. There is nothing tricky about the wireing - it's just in line between the pickups and jack socket.

I also thought that. But Mansons (of course) told me that it wasn't a simply operation and that the internal FF kit came without an instruction sheet or any explanation of the wiring at all.

And yes the internal FF only has 2 controller knobs instead of all 5. Which ones I don't know. Maybe they mixed them or something?

I also though that it just would be to "plug" the FF in between the jack-input on my guitar and then the "rest" of the guitar. But after Mansons mail, I'm not really sure anymore. That's why I'm asking for a little help...

I can't find any pictures of the wiring or of the internal FF kit. Anyone has those?

Dramatic Hammer
13-05-2004, 05:23 PM
I also thought that. But Mansons (of course) told me that it wasn't a simply operation and that the internal FF kit came without an instruction sheet or any explanation of the wiring at all.

And yes the internal FF only has 2 controller knobs instead of all 5. Which ones I don't know. Maybe they mixed them or something?

I also though that it just would be to "plug" the FF in between the jack-input on my guitar and then the "rest" of the guitar. But after Mansons mail, I'm not really sure anymore. That's why I'm asking for a little help...

I can't find any pictures of the wiring or of the internal FF kit. Anyone has those?
The other control knobs (pots/potentiometers) are little tiny ones called presets that would be inside the guitar - they are adjustable, but only with a little plastic screwdriver thingy.
Did they say whether the internal kit was literaly a kit or whether it is already soldered together by Z Vex? If it is pre-assembled, then you don't need instructions - it will be clear to anyone with electronics experience what does what.
Basicaly as I said before, they are taking advantage of everyone and it sounds like they will do anything to stop you going elsewhere.

haze015
13-05-2004, 05:35 PM
Tune the squeal to an A and play citizen erased, then you can get cool loud `A` beeps when you play the verse and pre-chorus stuff, I think i`ve heard Matt do it a few times live. It`s fun. ...just wierd having to be careful or you`ll squeal all the time.

I`m well aware my explanation is less than adequate, some people might know what I mean! :LOL:

I do that sometimes, you can also try tuning the feedback to D for Hyper Music, D for Cave, F# for Showbiz and Muscle Museum etc

I really do need to get out more

vietmon
14-05-2004, 03:57 AM
sorry to bring up another problem, but im just not sure about which one to get, FF or FP, but i was wondering... if i bought a FF, could i still do the different feedbacky sounds like in the beginning of plug-in baby? or is that only possible with the probe/fiddling with the knobs while playing? how does the volume on my guitar actually affect the sound/feedback?

thanks, just trying to decide whether its really worth it to buy the FP over the FF...

~arph
14-05-2004, 07:43 AM
To have the most control over the feedback you also need to be able to control the Comp and Drive knobs.. The volume of the guitar does have effect on the feedback as well, but in my experience it only affects it in the max output and minimum output area's of you guitars volume. (at least on my tele)

I think you either have to built one in or have it very nearby (I got it hanging on my strap... with rubber bands..) I don't think only controlling the stab (probe) will be sufficient.. so I'd say get the FF.. but I'm sure some will disagree..

Cu,.

andefeldt
14-05-2004, 07:46 AM
The other control knobs (pots/potentiometers) are little tiny ones called presets that would be inside the guitar - they are adjustable, but only with a little plastic screwdriver thingy.
Did they say whether the internal kit was literaly a kit or whether it is already soldered together by Z Vex? If it is pre-assembled, then you don't need instructions - it will be clear to anyone with electronics experience what does what.
Basicaly as I said before, they are taking advantage of everyone and it sounds like they will do anything to stop you going elsewhere.

No they didn't say if it was a 100% do it yourself kit or what it was. I've just asked them again, and I hopefully I'll get a reply soon. If it's a complete do-it-yourself kit, then maybe it's more easy to buy the "standard" FF and then take it apart yourself?

I didn't really get what you said about the control knobs (just got out of bed ;-) ). There are 2 on the internal kit. Those go outside the guitar (once you can adjust all the time freely), right? And then you can adjust the last 3 with a screwdriver inside the guitar? Did I get it right?

Dramatic Hammer
14-05-2004, 09:34 AM
No they didn't say if it was a 100% do it yourself kit or what it was. I've just asked them again, and I hopefully I'll get a reply soon. If it's a complete do-it-yourself kit, then maybe it's more easy to buy the "standard" FF and then take it apart yourself?

I didn't really get what you said about the control knobs (just got out of bed ;-) ). There are 2 on the internal kit. Those go outside the guitar (once you can adjust all the time freely), right? And then you can adjust the last 3 with a screwdriver inside the guitar? Did I get it right?

Yeah if it's a do-it-yourself kit (with no instructions) it would be a lot easier and probably cheaper in the end to buy the standard version.

Yeah the two outside are freely adjustable, the three inside look like this:
http://www.mansonguitars.co.uk/photos/Laser/muse_guitar_1_back_in.JPG
On the circuit board on the left the black blob with white dots is a row of pre-sets. There is a slot in the white bit so they can be adjusted with a screwdriver.
Hope this helps :cool:

andefeldt
14-05-2004, 09:36 AM
Yeah if it's a do-it-yourself kit (with no instructions) it would be a lot easier and probably cheaper in the end to buy the standard version.

Yeah the two outside are freely adjustable, the three inside look like this:
http://www.mansonguitars.co.uk/photos/Laser/muse_guitar_1_back_in.JPG
On the circuit board on the left the black blob with white dots is a row of pre-sets. There is a slot in the white bit so they can be adjusted with a screwdriver.
Hope this helps :cool:

Thanks! That looks a little crowded in there :) But ok, Matt's guitar is also filled with other fun stuff :cool:

I'll wait and see what mansons writes to me and I'll let you know.

YellowSphere
14-05-2004, 06:20 PM
it is pretty impressive how good those guitars sound despite the fact they are filled with stuff...

~arph
14-05-2004, 06:55 PM
:rolleyes: ...Well. I have never heard them clean without fx. But considering the construction (I must be solid as a rock to be Matt-proof) and the quality of the components used it'll probably sound ok

Dramatic Hammer
14-05-2004, 07:59 PM
Apparently the sustain is pretty shite on the stuff-ed ones and the laser one sounds like shite anyway due to the big bit of plastic stuck on the front :rolleyes:

YellowSphere
14-05-2004, 09:50 PM
but they only sound "shite" relative to other expensive custom made guitars...they still sound better than any mass produced non-custom one

thats why i love the bomber manson so, it doesn't have all the effects in so its a purer guitar, with out big chunks missing! it does sound great! even if he can't change the tuning because of the trem!

Dramatic Hammer
14-05-2004, 10:22 PM
but they only sound "shite" relative to other expensive custom made guitars...they still sound better than any mass produced non-custom one

I think it was Hugh Manson that said the laser manson sounded crap as the mirror plastic stopped the wood resonating. I'm also pretty sure that a reasonable quality 'normal' guitar is going to have better sustain than one with most of the wood missing - it's common sense.
However, neither of us has played any of Matt's guitars so it's all a bit speculative :cool:

You are right though, the Bomber Manson is probably a very nice sounding beast:)

YellowSphere
14-05-2004, 10:24 PM
Yes, it also looks damn cool, though my personal fave is the black one.

0oS
16-05-2004, 09:57 PM
is the form of the guitar body important for the sound?
I thought it would be the coils/humbucker which are important for the sound :confused:

Noodles
16-05-2004, 10:04 PM
is the form of the guitar body important for the sound?
I thought it would be the coils/humbucker which are important for the sound :confused:

As far as guitar bodies go, the important factors are Tone, Comfort and Style I suppose.
Wood and shape are all important. The flying V wasnt made just to pose with, it was made to create a better/different sound. Eddie Van halen stopped using his destroyer after he lopped a chunk out becasue it killed the tone. :(
Hugh Manson said Matts are Semi-Hollow by default becasue of all the routing, so you shouldnt compare them to solid bodies really.

Krasnojarsk
18-05-2004, 12:27 PM
Ahem...got it yesterday, the day before my final physics exam... :rolleyes: Luck eh? :D And, ahem, only 213 quid too :D Postage and packing included...ahem... :D

http://img22.photobucket.com/albums/v66/Krasnojarsk/HPIM1237.jpg

randombaz
18-05-2004, 04:01 PM
lucky bastard. i have to wait for another few weeks to get it

kev
19-05-2004, 12:45 AM
to summarise the locked thread on fuzz probes (since some of it may be useful info)

Yellow Sphere said:
Is it worth it?
Quite simply, is 240 pounds a good price to pay for the fuzz probe? bearing in mind I'll have to fob the money (or get a paying money back deal) off my parents...

kuz said:
theres a guy on the harmony-central effects forum called Kid_A selling one for 200, try asking him :p

Krasnojarsk said:
OK people, I think it's time you learned that you have to buy from www.haarguitars.nl
315 euros is roughly 210-15 quid...I got it from there, friendly people and all...greatly recommended!

0oS
19-05-2004, 02:27 PM
Krasnojarsk said:
OK people, I think it's time you learned that you have to buy from www.haarguitars.nl
315 euros is roughly 210-15 quid...I got it from there, friendly people and all...greatly recommended!

are they sending it from the NL?

Krasnojarsk
19-05-2004, 10:03 PM
Yup

10101010

jpsr
20-05-2004, 10:12 AM
to summarise the locked thread on fuzz probes (since some of it may be useful info)

Yellow Sphere said:
Is it worth it?
Quite simply, is 240 pounds a good price to pay for the fuzz probe? bearing in mind I'll have to fob the money (or get a paying money back deal) off my parents...

kuz said:
theres a guy on the harmony-central effects forum called Kid_A selling one for 200, try asking him :p

Krasnojarsk said:
OK people, I think it's time you learned that you have to buy from www.haarguitars.nl
315 euros is roughly 210-15 quid...I got it from there, friendly people and all...greatly recommended!
Hey, I didn't know a Dutch store sold ZVex pedals :D

Krasnojarsk
20-05-2004, 03:32 PM
Hey! Make your Fuzz probe a Trem or Volume probe! Everyhting at 7:00 except Gate, 5:00...volume up a bit!

Have fun! :D

Palo Alto
20-05-2004, 04:28 PM
Apparently the sustain is pretty shite on the stuff-ed ones and the laser one sounds like shite anyway due to the big bit of plastic stuck on the front

I reckon the laser one is the second best sounding guitar of the lot (Chrome one is best) , those pickups are damn fine, i watched a video of muse playing outdoor of germany, and hes playing bliss on the laser manson, and it has the most sexiest beefiest tone imaginable, its a fantastic sounding guitar. I think the Chrome manson is the best sounding as it seem the most versatile.

haze015
20-05-2004, 08:23 PM
Hey! Make your Fuzz probe a Trem or Volume probe! Everyhting at 7:00 except Gate, 5:00...volume up a bit!

Have fun! :D

Try getting a low pitched feedback from it, lower the guitar volume slighty, start playing something and start playing with the probe, sounds like its dying on you

Krasnojarsk
20-05-2004, 08:27 PM
That's cool :)

zeuzman
24-05-2004, 12:45 PM
Im after on of these babys. I have a Big Muff USA, but it doesnt have the fuzz on the higher strings. I would kill for a FF, but i dont have the 209 that Mansons sell it for.

Any Fuzz Factory owners - Where did you get yours?

Matt

Dramatic Hammer
24-05-2004, 12:47 PM
American eBay - if you are lucky you can avoid the taxes etc. :cool: .

Noodles
24-05-2004, 12:50 PM
....and if you`re UNlucky the man hits you for a wad of cash at the door, even for second hand stuff (for some reason) which is a big arse cluster fuck.

Ironically, my FF was the only the thing I didnt pay customs on.

bkaa
24-05-2004, 01:08 PM
Fuzz Factory (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41418&item=3726105257&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

stewart4321
24-05-2004, 01:17 PM
Fuzz Factory (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41418&item=3726105257&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW)

The guy buying lives in england and the guy on ebay won't ship to outside the usa/canada.

Britrock
24-05-2004, 01:25 PM
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41418&item=3725062742&rd=1&ssPageName=WD2V

They ship outside the US.

Noodles
24-05-2004, 01:30 PM
That seems good, it`ll go up al lot before the end methinks, there`s always a scram for ebay items before they end.
It`s also got paypal which is good, you dont want to have to send a postal order to Uncle Sam. :rolleyes:
I`d say that will go for about 150 bones, and you`ll get hit with customs, which on that will be 20+squid?

Dramatic Hammer
24-05-2004, 02:27 PM
That seems good, it`ll go up al lot before the end methinks, there`s always a scram for ebay items before they end.
It`s also got paypal which is good, you dont want to have to send a postal order to Uncle Sam. :rolleyes:
I`d say that will go for about 150 bones, and you`ll get hit with customs, which on that will be 20+squid?
It's a BIN i.e. Buy it now, no bidding involved. All five will go for aprox. 125 :p:p:p. You can ask them to mark it as a gift, then there's no tax at all :cool: .

Noodles
24-05-2004, 04:00 PM
....Ahhh didnt see the buy it now, and if a gift gets it out of being taxed, you`re quids in! :D

Anything i buy from the US, will now be a gift! :cool:

Dramatic Hammer
24-05-2004, 07:24 PM
....Ahhh didnt see the buy it now, and if a gift gets it out of being taxed, you`re quids in! :D

Anything i buy from the US, will now be a gift! :cool:
The limit for gifts is about 150 i think, so be carefull! I'm pretty tempted to get another FF at that price though - imagine the mayhem:D.

Krasnojarsk
25-05-2004, 10:08 PM
I keep telling you...160 quid at www.haarguitars.nl...that's shipping too, in the EU

wowsplat
27-05-2004, 08:07 AM
I live in downtown los angeles where there is a lot of interference? anyway my marshall amp(MG15CDR) and FF pedal pick up radio stations when the vol is loud...i was wondering if anyone knew of a "filter" or something that i could do to get rid of this?

:confused:

rDuM
27-05-2004, 08:56 AM
lol or you could keep this problem and just 'play' covers at your gigs all the time :LOL:

Boc
27-05-2004, 09:31 AM
:LOL: Thats pretty cool

Britrock
27-05-2004, 10:47 AM
I get foreign radio through my crybaby when it's fully rocked back sometimes.

wowsplat
28-05-2004, 12:53 AM
so no one knows how to get rid of this i take it?

no3chris
28-05-2004, 10:07 AM
i dont think you can, its quite a common problem with some pedals, especially the fuzz factory

Palo Alto
28-05-2004, 04:00 PM
happens in our recording studio when you use the DI box

very annoying

no3chris
31-05-2004, 12:59 PM
hmm no one has said anything in this thread for a few days, terrible

Noodles
31-05-2004, 04:21 PM
hmm no one has said anything in this thread for a few days, terrible


ooooer. Dont worry, I`ll fix that.

Hello!!?? I have baught the same strings and plecs as Matt, (i`m trying to find the guitar he has but I dont know where to get one like that N E one know what make it is?)
I also baught a fuzz factory pedal for $300 fooookin awseom, but I think mine is broken, where is the button to make me sound like matt?

I`ve been playin for about 3 months, so why dont I sound the same/better than him with the stuff I use?